Given the history of the Continental Congress, one could make a case for this being true from before the Republic was founded, eh?
Iraq Vet Sues Michael Moore For Misleading Interview
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Given the history of the Continental Congress, one could make a case for this being true from before the Republic was founded, eh?
And how does that discourage a slanderer/libeller from repeating/continuing their offence? $1!!! Surely MM would never risk being fined a whole dollar a second time and would thereafter be a paragon of documentary honesty!
(That is NOT a defence of $85 million - just that a symbolic $1 fine is neither punishment nor deterrent.)
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Are you claiming that Michael Moore is a 'Journalist'?
"Michael Moore...the portly peacenik"
That's some fair and balanced reporting right there.
Considering that he's a fat-assed commie, I think that's more than generous.
He doesn't really have to have a strong case to win. He only has to make a scene out of it enough to where Moore wants to settle and get him off his back. With Moore working on another movie, he might want to pay him off to stop the bleeding if it gets more attention. People need to believe what he's doing to pay for a seat. Unless he's really doing it to clear his name with the military. But he has a price I'm sure.
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The onus is on you to make an argument for why this violence (hitting someone for calling you a name) is rational.
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Or you could just recognize he wasn't being serious and let it drop.
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I just watched the relevant segment. (Mike said it was okay to download the movie, so I have it on CD)
It doesn't seem that way to me. He does not express any opinion on the war in the movie. He only talks about the pain he has, but he does not seem to be complaining much. He is in a section where there are also some soldiers complaining about the war.
When he says "But they do a lot to help it..." I at first interpreted "they" as the staff in the military hospital because the context was not clear. Apperently he meant the pain killers he got.
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If someone calls me "<random explitive> bitch I am about to beat the sh-- out of" then it is rational for me to decide that initiating violence in the form of preemptive self defense is in my interest.
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I saw him being interviewed on TV last night (don't remember what channel as I wasn't paying attention till I heard Moore and the suit mentioned. According to him (and I see no reason to think he's lying), he and/or his lawyer tried to get a response out of Moore for a year and his only demand was an apology.
Considering the circumstances, seems to me that Moore just figures he rich and famous enough that he can do what he wants and he's not going to apologize to anyone for anything. So he deserves whatever outcome he gets on this.
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Not all of us are mind readers.
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If it turns out that Damon only wanted a public apology, Mr. Moore is going to look like a complete @$$, oh wait...
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pep.... I accuse you of slandering me, and ALL i want is for you to publically admit liability before I even start any thoughts of legal action so could you please publically admit that you did slander me by apologising for it.
If this guy thinks he has got a case.... good luck to him, I hope he doesn't loose everything to lawyers chasing a result.
I wonder how many demands for public apologies moore gets every week?
ETA: I hope this doesn't offend anyone but when I first read this thread I wondered what Moore was doing interviewing Arab Horse doctors.....
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In all sincerity, can someone explain to me why Michael Moore deserves his widely-held reputation as a shameless fabricator? I seem to recall that after Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11, he was fairly popular, until the Republican hatchet men came along and suddenly he's a laughingstock. Mind you, I'm not necessarily vouching for the accuracy of any particular claim that he makes, and even from a casual viewing I think it's clear that he has a knack for occasionally going for the emotional low blow, but I've rather enjoyed all of his films that I've seen; has there been any reliable rebuttal showing that any of them are largely inaccurate, as opposed to just suffering from the occasional rhetorical overindulgence?
On an unrelated note, regarding punitive damages: it varies by state, and by cause of action, but generally speaking the available punitive damages must bear some relation to the actual damages. The Supreme Court has held that a ratio of 1:10 actual
unitive is around the constitutional limit. So a court could not award $1 compensatory and $85 million punitive damages.
On an unrelated note, regarding punitive damages: it varies by state, and by cause of action, but generally speaking the available punitive damages must bear some relation to the actual damages. The Supreme Court has held that a ratio of 1:10 actual
unitive is around the constitutional limit. So a court could not award $1 compensatory and $85 million punitive damages.
An apology for what? Damon not understanding what it means when you sign a contract?
Some links:
http://www.davekopel.org/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?cp=1&kaid=127&subid=177&contentid=252483
http://www.eppc.org/publications/pubID.2190/pub_detail.asp
http://www.moorelies.com/
http://www.neoperspectives.com/farenheight_911.htm
The first reference also has a number of links at the end defending Moore. The third is a review of Dude, Where's My Country? on the Democratic Leadership Council's website, of all places.
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moore is clearly biased, and his pieces are op-ed, not documentary. similarly, the folks attacking him seem to also have thier own agenda. which is to say i'd take either view with a large grain of salt.
moore just has an opinion, and seems to be a bit manipulative in showing it. he's not always right, but he ain't always wrong either.
moore just has an opinion, and seems to be a bit manipulative in showing it. he's not always right, but he ain't always wrong either.
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Michael Moore is a man who has discovered that the (indeed quite sizeable) anti-Bush/anti-War crowd have wallets. Nothing more, nothing less. Well and yeah, if he refused to just apologize to this guy, he's also an a**clown. But that's it.