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Iran's hanging binge

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/19/iran.executions/
Most of the executed are of course Kurds, but that's just a coincidence, right? :rolleyes:
I think you've misinterpreted that. The article you cited says:
The group says the number of unreported executions is even higher in politically motivated cases.
which is ambiguously stated. I read "number" there to mean "percentage", not absolute numbers. The CNN article is poor on numbers, but gives the impression the number of Kurds executed is single-digit, which obviously is not "most of the executed".

The original press release of the ICHRI is here, and bears that out. It mentions two Kurdish political prisoner having been executed in May 2010, one in January 2011 and another 15 on death row. The penultimate paragraph has a link about "hundreds of executions" which is about drug traffickers. It seems that mainly, Iran has taken up a very serious "war on drugs".

Numbers aside: persecution and execution of political opponents is soooo very wrong, and it doesn't matter whether it's one or 100.

And in general, yes, I am against the death penalty, whether it be drug traffickers, murderers, rapists or whatever criminals.

The Kurds in Turkey and Iran.
What about the Kurds in Syria?

Yep, China is the number one of all countries executing people. Most of them are "dissidents", of course - coincidence?
I clicked on the "per capita", and was about to make a snarky remark how evil the Bahamas and Singapore are - but I don't quite trust those numbers. In absolute numbers, China tops Iran by a factor of 1.5, and in per capita numbers, Iran tops China by a factor of 1.25. However, in population numbers China tops Iran by factor of roughly 10, so this doesn't quite add (eh, multiply) up.

(leaving aside the issue that these numbers are largely under-reported).
 
Again? Will he ever just **** off? He was driven out of Bethnal Green and ended up humiliating himself next door in Poplar but he still sticks around like a bad smell.
 
I think you've misinterpreted that. The article you cited says:

which is ambiguously stated. I read "number" there to mean "percentage", not absolute numbers. The CNN article is poor on numbers, but gives the impression the number of Kurds executed is single-digit, which obviously is not "most of the executed".

I read on Iranian dissidents on a regular basis, Kurds are being especially targetted.

http://en.firatnews.com/index.php?rupel=article&nuceID=1234
http://www.fidh.org/Iran-death-penalty-A-state-terror-policy-Special
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/10/world/middleeast/10iran.html
http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2010/10/irankurd673.htm
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hossein-Khezri-hsyn-khdry/135460973182568?v=info&ref=mf
http://persian2english.com/?p=18866
http://www.rahana.org/en/?p=9390
http://persian2english.com/?p=19064
http://persian2english.com/?p=15044
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/27/iran-arrests-family-kurdish-activist
http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6160/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5044
http://missionfreeiran.org/2010/12/17/tabasi-unhcr-1/
http://missionfreeiran.org/take-action/political-prisoners/
https://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6160/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=3527
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special...xecution-will-fuel-unrest/UPI-25851273512215/
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-...-halt-imminent-execution-kurdish-man-20091110
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/05/iran-.html


Need I go on? There are hundreds of these cases.

It's like just being Kurdish is considered being "enemy of the state" over there.


The penultimate paragraph has a link about "hundreds of executions" which is about drug traffickers. It seems that mainly, Iran has taken up a very serious "war on drugs".
Those are obviously trumped up charges, but nice to see you are swallowing the Iranian lie hook line and sinker. I would have expected better from a "progressive".
 
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Those are obviously trumped up charges, but nice to see you are swallowing the Iranian lie hook line and sinker. I would have expected better from a "progressive".

How come more Neo-Conservatives aren't yelling and screaming about the poor defenseless Kurds? Looks like there is lots of criticism to go around. Focusing just on supposed Progressive or Lefist hypocrisy is dishonest.
 
I thought you said you didn't care thunder?

so, does this mean you are indeed NOT bothered by silence from Republicans and Conservatives, in regards to the Kurdish situation?

only the silence of Progressives and Liberals bothers you?

fact: its the Conservatives and Republicans who are beating their chests about "liberty" and "freedom", not the American Liberals and Progressives. Where is Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Mike Levin, on the topic of the Kurds? They seem to be silent.

Maybe its cause Iranian Kurdistan has no oil?
 
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I read on Iranian dissidents on a regular basis, Kurds are being especially targetted.

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It's like just being Kurdish is considered being "enemy of the state" over there.
I don't doubt that one second and I don't need your wealth of links to prove that.

Those are obviously trumped up charges, but nice to see you are swallowing the Iranian lie hook line and sinker. I would have expected better from a "progressive".
Huh? I commented on your CNN article, which in turn cited from the ICHRI human rights group I linked to. If the people executed for drugs charges are in effect Kurdish political dissenters, I would have expected them to tell me that. I resent your accusation that I swallow Iranian government lies hook line and sinker.
 
Thunder, we are allied with the Iraqi Kurds. We train the Peshmerga. George Bush is a national hero there. Neither are conservatives any friends of Iran.
 
Thunder, we are allied with the Iraqi Kurds. We train the Peshmerga. George Bush is a national hero there. Neither are conservatives any friends of Iran.

#1. George Bush let the Iraqi Kurds get slaughtered after the Gulf War.

#2. we are talking about Kurds in Iran.....NOT Iraq.
 
Yep, China is the number one of all countries executing people. Most of them are "dissidents", of course - coincidence?

Also, Pardalis failed to mention all of that in the OP. Coincidence? :confused:


Um... you do realise that graph indicates China only executes 470 people yer year right? And that the data is from over ten years ago? And that the "per capita" and "total" comparisons don't even match up?

China's population, in 1998 (when the data is from) was 1,247,600,000 people. Based on 470 executions that would be a per capita rate of 0.3767 per million.

The per capita graph, however, gives us a rate of 0.816802 executions per million which would be a raw execution figure of 1019 executions.

I've found these problems with erroneous data and internal contradictions in many statistical graphs from nationmaster.com, so much so that I don't think it can really even be considered as a credible source for statistics.
 
#1. George Bush let the Iraqi Kurds get slaughtered after the Gulf War.

#2. we are talking about Kurds in Iran.....NOT Iraq.

#1: The hands-off approach. What the "anti-war" side claimed was the best way to deal with Saddam's Baath regime. Besides, you're just tossing out smelly old red herrings. The fact still stands that we're allies and Bush is their national hero.

#2: As I just stated, we're no friends of the clerical fascist regime in Iran.
 
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so, does this mean you are indeed NOT bothered by silence from Republicans and Conservatives, in regards to the Kurdish situation?

only the silence of Progressives and Liberals bothers you?

fact: its the Conservatives and Republicans who are beating their chests about "liberty" and "freedom", not the American Liberals and Progressives. Where is Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Mike Levin, on the topic of the Kurds? They seem to be silent.

Maybe its cause Iranian Kurdistan has no oil?

It's because our own damn country is falling apart at the seams Thunder. How can "we help the world" when we can't even help ourselves?

Currently we are selling our infrastructure contracts to the Kings of the East for quick short term cash; which allows them to set the prices while we are still responsible for all the maintenance and costs associated w/that.

Also, it seems if you talk negatively about any Muslim on a national media level (whether terrorist or not) you get a group called CAIR all up in your grill filing class action lawsuits and stuff. Ask Michael Savage. He will even tell you that.

Also, the liberal media portrays the Muslims as some sort world victim and holds Allah higher in regards to any other religion or belief. Need I mention South Park
 
Also, it seems if you talk negatively about any Jew Muslim on a national media level (whether Zionists terrorist or not) you get a group called the ADL CAIR all up in your grill filing class action lawsuits and stuff. Ask Christopher Bolyn Michael Savage. He will even tell you that.

Also, the liberal media portrays the Jews Muslims as some sort world victim and holds Israel Allah higher in regards to any other nation religion or belief. Need I mention South Park

edited to show some irony.
 
Um... you do realise that graph indicates China only executes 470 people yer year right? And that the data is from over ten years ago? And that the "per capita" and "total" comparisons don't even match up?
I noted that too (see my post #22).

The numbers are not from "over ten years ago"; they're from 2007, to be specific, from this Amnesty report, In that report, however, many numbers (including those for Iran and China) are postfixed with a "+", meaning that the number is only the known executions, and that the actual number very well will be higher.

There's a more recent Amnesty report about 2009. It mentions 388+ for Iran, and doesn't even bother to cite a number for China except for "China executed more people than the rest of the world put together" and that it's in the thousands.
 

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