Iran War in Prophecy

Davidjayjordan said:
Even though you are not sincerely asking the question, Panda, still for the sake of others let me answer you.
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I am sincere in my asking.

Davidjayjordan said:
YES, the Prince of the Covenant does come up with a comprehensive PEACE PLAN that stops the Iranian War, the Palestinian war as they have no homeland, and gives a military, economic, religious solution that brings temporary peace to the whole world.

THis COVENANT though is short lived as the AC arises and is against the Covenant, because America still goes on with its war despite the agreements.

He breaks the Covenant completely in order to stop America who is starting war after war after war..... to bring HIS PEACE to the whole world via His leadership thru a ONE world government.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/TwodestructionsofBabylon.html
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This doesn't answer the question. I asked, what if the prince of peace isn't who he says he is? What if he causes more destruction that America ever could?

Davidjayjordan said:
The price of Peace is your soul as you then have to pledge alligiance to his new government and rule and take HIS MARK.

So you better strengthen your conspiracy theories and KNOW how devoid governments are Panda, rather than accepting their lies. For greater lies are on the way if you have accepted their lesser ones. And if you value your life, you can be easily intimidatyed, as then it won;t be just peer pressure as HERE, but literal death if you don't take the MARK
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Mine personally? I find it strange that you trust me so much DJJ. I don't accept governments' lies. And you still have not answered my question. What my question really means is, "what if you're wrong?" and it is extremely important DJJ. If anyone accepts what you say and you are wrong, you could be putting all our lives at risk. You have shown yourself to be wrong already with your Iran prophecy. We all know that America might go to war with Iran, it is certainly possible, but you told us it'd be over the 15 captives, and they have been set free. So you were wrong! If you were wrong about that, and have been wrong about others, doesn't that lead you to think that maybe you "lord" is wrong?
Davidjayjordan said:
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/FearofGodbraveryandFreedom.html

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Fear of God, Bravery and Freedom of Speech

[SIZE=-1]We are suppose to have respect unto the Lord and speak as unto the Lord. This we should be doing in whatever situation we are in, knowing that the Lord hears our every word, so we might as well speak accordingly and write accordingly. We need to be conscious of His sensitivity [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]concerning what we are saying, much more than the sensitivities of readers and listeners.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Yet, sometimes we should hold our tongue. We have to speak our truths from the Lord in due season in His Time. But with the majority of people, our main problem has always been NOT speaking up. Hiding the voice of the Lord, we hear in our hearts, and for safety and convenience sake and so as to not rock the boat, we kept SILENT. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]We didn't speak when the Lord was telling us to speak and obey Him and His words. This is why so many abuses get out of hand, because ‘good people’ don’t say anything to stop the aggressors. They don’t stand up for others whose rights are being taken away so that eventually all of our rights are taken away. We didn't speak because we had a fear of man and position, when we were suppose to have a FEAR of the LORD.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]So in my opinion, from how I read scriptures is that we have to be brave and say what we really feel. We have to obey the Lord first. We have to eventually say what has to be said because it doesn’t get easier with time, especially in the END-TIME. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]If we blow it in personal matters and it turns out we were out of the Spirit, we can recant and be more humble and watch our tongue in the future. But we have to learn to give what the Lord gives us in obediance and bravery. We can't always hold back because if the Lord tells us to speak then we must obey Him first and foremost. That doesn’t mean, we all are suppose to becoming flaming prophets and prophetesses overnight, but it does mean we should be faithful to hear and obey the small still voice of the Holy Spirit. For this is the only way, the Holy Ghost or truth will teach us further. And besides we have to stick up for the oppressed and the hurting and the wounded. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Church people hold almost everything in and become unnatural and restricted and pent-up until they literally become subservient to every whim of a pastor or politician that comes along. But we can't be, in my opinion. If we are to be strong, we have to learn to, obey in words. There's a multitude of scriptures that can be copied concerning speaking in the FEAR of the Lord. It's not fear of a group, or a leader, but fear of the LORD. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]This is primary and others are definitely secondary. We serve Him not a group or a group of people. We need to pray before speaking, but speak if spoken to by Him or by our consciences. Sure we need to control our tongues as people should read and reread about the judgments of God upon those that spoke out of place and were judged for it, but we still need to speak. For the Lord can judge our lack of words and actions as much as our false words and bad actions.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]We ALL need a FEAR of God. It's healthy, it prevents rude, crude, and abusive behavior. For if one person speaks up in the Name of the Lord and in HIS LOVE and another speaks up, and then another, then this type of witnessing in the Spirit can actually prevent a whole group of Christians from going astray. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]So in my opinion, Freedom of speech goes along with fear of the Lord and comes about because of Faith and therefore BRAVERY to speak. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Just a thought [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]IHS[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Jay[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Isa 40:9 O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]of Judah, Behold your God! [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Mat 10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Mat 10:27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]both soul and body in hell.[/SIZE]
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Again, what if the "lord" isn't who he says he is? And when can fear ever be healthy? Are you saying that you'd be rude, crude, and abusive if you didn't have fear from God? That says a whole lot about you then doesn't it? Me, i have no god, and yet i am not rude, crude, or abusive, any more than a God fearing Christian.
 
CapelDodger said:
Africa is way out on the periphery of US strategic vision, .
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Wrong.

Africa is about three times the size of the US. Has about 51 countries in it, of many sizes. The AOR used to be divided, between CENTCOM on the Eastern half, sub Sahara, and EUCOM, for the rest.

I hear rumor that is more than passing that the African AOR is about to get its own CINC. My own involvement in support of HOA tells me that Africa is growing in importance, not shrinking, in the US strategic calculus. It's all tied together, not some "either or" deal.

Pay no attention to the man behind Iraq . . .

DR
 
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Davidjayjordan said:
No the false prophets and they are MANY, [/B]
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I hear that the number is now "many" plus one, Brother David.

You made a prophesy.

It was false.

That works its way out to false prophet, to be strictly correct.

Pride goeth before a fall.

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
Wrong.

Africa is about three times the size of the US. Has about 51 countries in it, of many sizes. The AOR used to be divided, between CENTCOM on the Eastern half, sub Sahara, and EUCOM, for the rest.

I hear rumor that is more than passing that the African AOR is about to get its own CINC. My own involvement in support of HOA tells me that Africa is growing in importance, not shrinking, in the US strategic calculus. It's all tied together, not some "either or" deal.

Pay no attention to the man behind Iraq . . .

DR
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Thanks for the inside dope, dude. Any news on when the money's going in? I missed out last time - never saw it coming, who did? - but I'll be there with a fork-lift next time it turns up shrink-wrapped on pallets, and completely untraceable.

There's a large drink in it for everybody. We can probably lease a small fleet of forklifts on the back of a UN contract, they're on an airfield alongside pallets loaded with cash, bish-bosh, job done.
 
Daarth, you are missing it.

Your claim of peace and safety and no war will not be validated, as there will be a war in IRAN, only the willingly blind can't see that.

Its amazing that you would hinge your credibility on such a balatantly obvious future event. Don;t you know the signs. Haven't you seen the build-up. Don't you know the motivations and why's. I mean you don't have to know Bible Prophecy to understand that America/ Britan/ Israel will attack Iran.

All Muslim countries have to be negated to bring them into the NWO scenario so they will not be indepandant but submissive.

Don't you know current events. You're capable of reading so why do you pretend there will be peace and safety, as have all the false prophets.

You might as well add, that plagues won't come, earthquakes will stop, and what Jesus said won't happen.

Your false claims, and fasle prophecies claims of eternal peace and safety for Iran will be short lived before you have to revise your man made claims DENY you made them.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Daarth, you are missing it.

Your claim of peace and safety and no war will not be validated, as there will be a war in IRAN, only the willingly blind can't see that.
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Only the willingly deceitful can pretend that we don't all know that there is a high probability of war in Iran.

However, that is not the point, David. The point is, and you know it, that YOU made a prediction, and called it a prophecy, that the war in Iran would be started over the capture of British mariners.

Only the willingly deceitful can pretend that your prediction did not fail.

Its amazing that you would hinge your credibility on such a balatantly obvious future event.
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It is amazing that you think you can get away with such dishonesty. David, YOUR credibility is at stake here, not anybody else's. The discussion is not about whether there may be war in Iran; any fool knows that this is highly probable.

Don;t you know the signs. Haven't you seen the build-up. Don't you know the motivations and why's. I mean you don't have to know Bible Prophecy to understand that America/ Britan/ Israel will attack Iran.
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David, YOUR "prophecy" FAILED. If there is war with Iran tomorrow, it will STILL have failed.

All Muslim countries have to be negated to bring them into the NWO scenario so they will not be indepandant but submissive.
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That is a point of view, but it is irrelevant.

Don't you know current events. You're capable of reading so why do you pretend there will be peace and safety, as have all the false prophets.
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Not only are we capable of reading al lthat, but we are also capable of reading your posts and see your lies and evasions.

Your false claims, and fasle prophecies claims of eternal peace and safety for Iran will be short lived before you have to revise your man made claims DENY you made them.
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Your lies are already disclosed. Anybody can read this threat and see that nobody claims anything about eternal piece. This is what is called a strawman.

Your prediction was refuted, and correctly. Now David, you have a chance here: You can restore a bit of your credibility and admit your prediction failed. Let's see if your a man or a mouse. Just say "OK, I was wrong. The war in Iran was not started on the pretext of the captured mariners."

Come on, brother. Are you a man or a mouse?

Hans
 
DJJ must surround himself with a lot of YES people and not very smart ones either.

Paul

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Davidjayjordan said:
Study fulfilled prophecies of the Lord, and get back to us.
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i did. Saw something in the OT about a guy named Immanuel that was supposed to be the Messiah, but he never showed up. Instead, some guy named Jesus filled in for him, so you can say i did not find any.


How did you do in your search of failed millennial prophecies? Find any?
 
Ahh the heathen have been busying being conned since I left, because I discerned what JREF is all about and it does have an agenda and it is useful in confirming government lies and negating the truth against government conspiracies..

SEE the thread..... Anti-conspiracy theorists are groupies.

Oh yea, Darat who was posting HERE deleted it, under the excuse that he thought it would cause heated debate, and debate isn;t allowed HERE. You all must think the same thing and agree in harmony and follow the party lines so as to be useful when called upon to do so.

Peace and safety prophets don't like to hear that they are groupies.
 
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There are no prophets here, Djj. Certainly not you.

Prophesy is wildly inefficient and wildly inaccurate. Fortunately, we have something whole orders of magnitude better - science. But science requires external referents, which doesn't suit your self-aggrandizing egotism.

Fortunately for real human beings living in the real world, we left you and your ilk in the dust hundreds of years ago. Your ilk had a long reign of stagnation, superstition, horror and death, but it's over now, and we are not going back. So, while you rant from the margins, with your sandals and your "End is Nigh" sign, the rest of us are getting on with the business of living, learning and growing.

We double life expectancies and you whine and rant about the end of the world. We improve standards of living and you whine and rant about the end of the world. We reduce mortality rates and you whine and rant about the end of the world. You are a hanger-on, riding on the generosity of the better world science has helped us create - because we chose to not be blown along helplessly on the winds of fate.

You are an example to us all, Djj. You show us precisely what happens when someone doesn't permit the real world to intrude on their fantasy realms. For this, I thank you, actually; never before has my point been so forcefully made as in the example you provide.

And now all you have to fall back on is contrived soundbites and haphazard slogans. You are neither profound, nor insightful. You are merely trivial and trite.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Ahh the heathen have been busying being conned since I left, because I discerned what JREF is all about and it does have an agenda and it is useful in confirming government lies and negating the truth against government conspiracies..

SEE the thread..... Anti-conspiracy theorists are groupies.

Oh yea, Darat who was posting HERE deleted it, under the excuse that he thought it would cause heated debate, and debate isn;t allowed HERE. You all must think the same thing and agree in harmony and follow the party lines so as to be useful when called upon to do so.

Peace and safety prophets don't like to hear that they are groupies.
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This is another untruth in a long list. The thread was not deleted, it was moved and closed. If you had been paying attention to others and not been so self absorbed, you would have known what had become of your thread. Again, thanks for showing the mind of the CT in action.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Ahh the heathen have been busying being conned since I left, because I discerned what JREF is all about and it does have an agenda and it is useful in confirming government lies and negating the truth against government conspiracies..

SEE the thread..... Anti-conspiracy theorists are groupies.

Oh yea, Darat who was posting HERE deleted it, under the excuse that he thought it would cause heated debate, and debate isn;t allowed HERE. You all must think the same thing and agree in harmony and follow the party lines so as to be useful when called upon to do so.

Peace and safety prophets don't like to hear that they are groupies.
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Let's get back to the subject of this (still open) thread: Why did you change the dates of your end times prophecy?
 
Maybe it was deleted because it was another absurd troll?

Also maybe you have delusions of persecution?
 
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