iPhone 5

[funk de fino]

They also had hopes of breaking into Europe, which didn't seem to materialize.

Breaking into Europe? From your own link they are increasing share in many European locations and are a healthy 32% in UK?

From the current source:

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/Glo...5-sales-in-US-knock-Android-into-second-place

You missed out the fact that at least 20% were switches from RIM and Android? Why was that?

Also the bump last time was not really shortlived. What makes you think it will be this time? Especially considering the supply issues.

You also ignore stuff like this

This time we predict that Apple will beat its previous high of 49.3% and achieve its highest ever share of the US smartphone market within the next two periods

 

[This is The End]

Breaking into Europe? From your own link they are increasing share in many European locations and are a healthy 32% in UK?

Did you read the rest of the article or just that one sentence??

Apple’s rise in the US has not been replicated in quite the same way across Europe where Android still takes the lead, accounting for 73.9% of sales in Germany and 81.7% in Spain.

“Germany remains a tough market for Apple with its share falling by 5.1 percentage points over the past year. ”

They had small boosts in 4 countries because of a new model, the only country where they could be considered to have broke ground is the UK.

The UK does not equal Europe.

Also the bump last time was not really shortlived. What makes you think it will be this time? Especially considering the supply issues.

You also ignore stuff like this

Let's examine the sentence that contains my claim:

Sadly that bump will probably be short lived, and they didn't get anywhere close to the worldwide leader.

funk de fino then claims I was talking about how long a bump would last in the US

Not only is that dishonest, but I believe it is intentionally dishonest, as it is not the first time funk de fino has tried something like that in this thread.


So to summarize for funk de fino:

The US does not equal The World.

The UK does not equal Europe.


This is reminiscent of the damage control that Apple fans would use several years ago when faced with the fact that Apple isn't even listed on PC OS market share charts because they have less than 5% market share.

They would produce links that show Apple has greater that 5% market share... in the US.

 

[kajata]

Google Maps app is now available for the iPhone (iPad coming soon).

Yeah, it's pretty damn great. Even has turn-by-turn directions and plugs into Apple Maps to offer mass transit routing.

Good to have it back. Now if we could just link it to Siri.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Yes, it was nice of apple to force googles hand into giving us iOS users turn-by-turn ;-)

 

[funk de fino]

Did you read the rest of the article or just that one sentence??

That you fail to see the irony in that post is hilarious. Just stunning.

They had small boosts in 4 countries because of a new model, the only country where they could be considered to have broke ground is the UK.

Boosts in the 4 of the 5 major countries. I know far more people with iphones than Samsungs. Most Androids I have seen are HTC. Samsung is only just looking to be the handset of choice.

The UK does not equal Europe.

Scotland doesnt equal UK. So what.

Let's examine the sentence that contains my claim:

funk de fino then claims I was talking about how long a bump would last in the US

Not only is that dishonest, but I believe it is intentionally dishonest, as it is not the first time funk de fino has tried something like that in this thread.

What are you blabbering about? You claimed the bump would be shortlived. I then said that the last one wasnt so why would this be? Where do you get this fantasy stuff that you think I am posting?

You do know your sentence had two parts and I WAS COMMENTING ON THE FIRST PART.

So to summarize for funk de fino:

The US does not equal The World.

The UK does not equal Europe.

Never said it did. I suspect you are the one who is confused here.

This is reminiscent of the damage control that Apple fans would use several years ago when faced with the fact that Apple isn't even listed on PC OS market share charts because they have less than 5% market share.

They would produce links that show Apple has greater that 5% market share... in the US.

Irrelevant nonsense. I have never owned an Apple Computer. But anyway, you still ignored the 20% switch. Very ironic again considering the last sentence. Kinda obsessive.

 

[This is The End]

Wow, complete denial of what is in your posts in this thread. How original.

You do realize all we have to do is go back and read them and see that you are wrong?

Aside from that you admit to addressing parts of sentences out of context. So basically you have nothing new to add?

 

[funk de fino]

Wow, complete denial of what is in your posts in this thread. How original. [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/qimg]

You do realize all we have to do is go back and read them and see that you are wrong?

Aside from that you admit to addressing parts of sentences out of context. So basically you have nothing new to add?

Please show my dishonesty because it seems English is not your first language. And you have just lied again with your second last sentence. That's a rare feat. If you really want to get into it then please lay it out bit it could get embarrassing even though I suspect you have no shame

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Please show my dishonesty because it seems English is not your first language. And you have just lied again with your second last sentence. That's a rare feat. If you really want to get into it then please lay it out bit it could get embarrassing even though I suspect you have no shame

Don't hold your breath. I'm still waiting on a response to posts 655 and 654

Sometimes, it seems, the easier path is to just ignore the posts.

 

[carlitos]

All the time, it seems. Just let it go.

 

[This is The End]

And you have just lied again with your second last sentence.

The "second last"* sentence in question:

*(coming from a poster who just attacked my English!)

Aside from that you admit to addressing parts of sentences out of context. So basically you have nothing new to add?

You not only admitted it, you screamed it:

You do know your sentence had two parts and I WAS COMMENTING ON THE FIRST PART.

Wouldn't be the first time you are caught lying by accusing me of lying. That's more than dishonest, that's trying to be sneaky.


You seem to be dancing around your claim like someone else I know, so just come right out and say it.

I made a statement that the worldwide bump Apple recieved from the iPhone 5 launch would probably be short lived:

Sadly that bump will probably be short lived, and they didn't get anywhere close to the worldwide leader.

Even though I also said "probably", you chose to attack that. It seems that you have blinders on that make anything that doesn't put Apple in the most favorable light appear to you to be an attack. Which also is the M.O. of another frequent poster in this thread. Knee jerk damage control.

So, please, just come right out and say it:

You claim that the worldwide bump that Apple received from the iPhone 5 launch will NOT be short lived.

Yes or no?

 

[This is The End]

All the time, it seems. Just let it go.

Care to tell me how your post there is on topic and which argument it is addressing??

 

[TheL8Elvis]

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/Global/News/Apple-achieves-its-highest-ever-Smartphone-share-in-US

The latest smartphone sales data from Kantar Worldpanel ComTech shows Apple has achieved its highest ever share in the US (53.3%) in the latest 12 weeks*, with the iPhone 5 helping to boost sales. In Europe, however, Android retains the highest share with 61% of the market, up from 51.8% a year ago.

Dominic Sunnebo, global consumer insight director at Kantar Worldpanel ComTech, comments: “Apple has reached a major milestone in the US by passing the 50% share mark for the first time, with further gains expected to be made during December.”

 

[WildCat]

Woman Tasered After 'Trying to Buy Too Many iPhones':

Apple has come in for heavy criticism after a woman was allegedly tasered by police at one of its stores after refusing to leave when told she would not be allowed to buy more than two iPhones.

Xiaojie Li of Newton in Massachusetts bought two iPhone 5s at the store in Nashua New Hampshire last week, which were apparently intended as gifts for relatives in China.

When returning to buy a further iPhone this week Li was told by Apple sales staff that she had exceeded a two phones per customer limit designed to foil profit-seeking Internet resellers.

After refusing or failing to understand their request to leave - Li is reported to speak poor English - amateur footage posted on YouTube shows her being dragged from the store by police officers who are accused of tasering her while prone.

When's the last time someone got tasered at a Google store?

 

[This is The End]

Woman Tasered After 'Trying to Buy Too Many iPhones':

When's the last time someone got tasered at a Google store?

Was she getting them at a 2-year contract discount price, or was she paying full price?

It must be the former because the latter wouldn't make much sense...

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Shenanigans: Google Maps redirect issue on Windows Phones is a matter of competition

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/...ns-on-googles-windows-phone-8-maps-narrative/

When Google began redirecting Windows Phone users – Windows Phone 7.5 included – away from its Google Maps product, the affected parties were incensed. It instantly became a large story given the competition between the two firms across the technology field, not to mention Microsoft’s attempts to gain mobile market share in the smartphone niche.

For the record, here is Google’s formal statement on the issue:

The mobile web version of Google Maps is optimized for WebKit browsers such as Chrome and Safari. However, since Internet Explorer is not a WebKit browser, Windows Phone devices are not able to access Google Maps for the mobile web.

The statement is somewhat odd. It would appear to be Google’s point that as Internet Explorer 10 for Windows Phone 8 uses a different rendering engine than what WebKit employs, it cannot process maps.google.com. This is perplexing as Internet Explorer 10 for Windows Phone 8 uses the same rendering engine as the desktop build of Internet Explorer 10, which is certainly capable of loading and running Google Maps.

This type of action is a great example of why Apple wouldn't want to leave a control of an important part of an iOS experience (mapping) to a third party( google).

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Was she getting them at a 2-year contract discount price, or was she paying full price?

It must be the former because the latter wouldn't make much sense...

Did you read the story ?
"...which were apparently intended as gifts for relatives in China."

Do you think she signed them up for an AT&T or Verizon contract for that discount ?

 

[Darat]

Such policies are the norm over here in the UK - it's to stop what we call "box breakers" these are folks who make money by reselling the phones in different countries.

 

[John Albert]

I'd say it's a fair assumption that this lady was not buying the phones as mere "gifts" for relatives in China.

 

[grmcdorman]

My in-laws from Hong Kong tell me it's common to buy iPhones in North America and resell them for a profit in Hong Kong. In fact, my wife's nephew has done this.

With respect to this specific woman, we don't know what she was doing; she could really have been buying them as gifts - but the behaviour is what I would expect from these types of people (specifically the sense of entitlement). In any event, because people abuse the system this way anyone who legitimately wants to do this can't.

 

[funk de fino]

I know I really shouldn't bother, but I do find your imaginitive ways of debating quite amusing.

The "second last"* sentence in question:

*(coming from a poster who just attacked my English!)

Unclear what you mean by bolded comment.

You not only admitted it, you screamed it:

I did not admit to deliberately taking anything out of context. I asked you a question based on one part of a statement. I also mentioned the supply issues, that were mainly overseas from what I have seen.

Now, was the bump shortlived or not? Worldwide or US. Or Scottish if you want?

Wouldn't be the first time you are caught lying by accusing me of lying. That's more than dishonest, that's trying to be sneaky.

Not lying. However it would be no more dishonest than the tactic of ignoring stuff inconvenient to your arguments. Or twisting others arguments. Or making claims up for people.

You seem to be dancing around your claim like someone else I know, so just come right out and say it.

What claim was that? Please specifically quote it.

I made a statement that the worldwide bump Apple recieved from the iPhone 5 launch would probably be short lived:

Indeed

Even though I also said "probably", you chose to attack that. It seems that you have blinders on that make anything that doesn't put Apple in the most favorable light appear to you to be an attack. Which also is the M.O. of another frequent poster in this thread. Knee jerk damage control.

Eh, no.

So, please, just come right out and say it:

You claim that the worldwide bump that Apple received from the iPhone 5 launch will NOT be short lived.

Yes or no?

What is it with you and making claims up for people? I asked you why you thought it would be shortlived. Then you threw a hissy fit.