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Bwahahahaha. Don't worry, it's not like Manchester United fans can be rabid or violent in any way...
 
Well, that's an enormous foot-shooting incident, and no mistake. Good Lord.

My personal favourite headline:

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/20/apple_fans_slam_ios_6_map_app/
Fans rap Apple's '****' Map app

But this again is unfortunately a problem of Apple's own making, or rather of their success.

They project the image of perfection, everything is supposed to "just work", and when it doesn't as in Antenna-gate or now this, they look like idiots.

I was no fan of Steve Jobs, but he understood the importance of getting it right first time and the importance to their image of not releasing something until it was ready.

Siri was the start of something new for Apple, the first time they released Beta features in their production line, and this new development is more like an Alpha feature.

But what is perhaps more telling, is that this is plastered all over the front page of the BBC. This isn't a storm in a teacup, a few geeks arguing in a chat room, this is a big and obvious screw up. Terrible publicity.

Assuming that iOS 6 comes with the iPhone 5, who is going to want something with a rubbish map app? They had better do something about that right sharpish.
 
Well, that's an enormous foot-shooting incident, and no mistake. Good Lord.

My personal favourite headline:

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/20/apple_fans_slam_ios_6_map_app/
Fans rap Apple's '****' Map app

But this again is unfortunately a problem of Apple's own making, or rather of their success.
They project the image of perfection, everything is supposed to "just work", and when it doesn't as in Antenna-gate or now this, they look like idiots.

I was no fan of Steve Jobs, but he understood the importance of getting it right first time and the importance to their image of not releasing something until it was ready.

Siri was the start of something new for Apple, the first time they released Beta features in their production line, and this new development is more like an Alpha feature.

But what is perhaps more telling, is that this is plastered all over the front page of the BBC. This isn't a storm in a teacup, a few geeks arguing in a chat room, this is a big and obvious screw up. Terrible publicity.

Assuming that iOS 6 comes with the iPhone 5, who is going to want something with a rubbish map app? They had better do something about that right sharpish.

Agree completely. I wonder what went on behind the scenes that made someone look at the maps and say "yeah, we can ditch google now..."

I hope we get some insight into why the switch was made now.

OTOH, google may be ready release a maps app on iOS, so that at least fixes part of the problem if they do.
 
Agree completely. I wonder what went on behind the scenes that made someone look at the maps and say "yeah, we can ditch google now..."

I think it's the same as Siri: there are certain kinds of systems where the only way to get better data is to get more data. Siri had reached a point where the only way she could improve was by real-world usage and I bet the same holds true for Maps. You will see a rapid improvement in quality as people continue to use it.

However, the concern is wither it's "good enough" to prevent people from walking away and looking back. Time will tell.
 
They project the image of perfection, everything is supposed to "just work", and when it doesn't as in Antenna-gate or now this, they look like idiots.

I don't want to derail the thread again with Antennagate but come on. That issue was at least half media blustering; real customers were resoundingly happy with the device and generally unaffected.

This is the same media that reports 2 million preorders of a "boring" iPhone 5.
 
The maps on iOS 6 are getting hammered on Apple forums and tech blogs.
Moving some towns and disappearing others, that's called "innovation" buddy. And nobody does it like Apple!
 
Agree completely. I wonder what went on behind the scenes that made someone look at the maps and say "yeah, we can ditch google now..."

wild guess: a licensing agreement may have been about to expire - same as with the youtube app.

as it is there is nothing stopping you from pointing a web browser at google maps.
 
Moving some towns and disappearing others, that's called "innovation" buddy. And nobody does it like Apple!


Don't be so silly. I've looked on the iPhone and it's patently obvious the towns are in the wrong place, they need to be moved to where they should be pretty pronto.
 
The maps on iOS 6 are getting hammered on Apple forums and tech blogs.

Google have been unable to formulate an official response because they've been too busy laughing.

I was already laughing when I read richardm's response. Then I read this and about choked:

On the bright side, the satellite image that's completely concealed by cloud cover loaded very quickly.

I thought Google maps was just removed from the iPhone 5, it didn't occur to me that it would be the same on everyone who updates to iOS 6, be it 3GS, 4, or 4S as well.

OTOH, google may be ready release a maps app on iOS, so that at least fixes part of the problem if they do.

That would be a horrible business move. Come to the rescue of their main competitor? Sure it gets their name out there on iPhones, but they should at least wait a bit and let Apple stew! They even have an excuse, Apple slapped them in the face.
 
OTOH, google may be ready release a maps app on iOS, so that at least fixes part of the problem if they do.

Maybe they do ...

http://9to5mac.com/2012/09/20/googl...approval-it-is-solely-up-to-apple-to-approve/

If you are missing Google Maps after updating to iOS 6 over the past 24 hours, good news may be just around the corner. As previously rumored, The Guardian suggested this afternoon that the folks at Google built a separate Maps app for iOS 6. The report further added that it will “appear in time,” to which well-known developer Steve Stroughton-Smith seemingly confirmed with a “Yep.”
 
I think it's the same as Siri: there are certain kinds of systems where the only way to get better data is to get more data. Siri had reached a point where the only way she could improve was by real-world usage and I bet the same holds true for Maps. You will see a rapid improvement in quality as people continue to use it.

However, the concern is wither it's "good enough" to prevent people from walking away and looking back. Time will tell.

wild guess: a licensing agreement may have been about to expire - same as with the youtube app.

as it is there is nothing stopping you from pointing a web browser at google maps.

They are going to let Apple stew. :D

*shrugs*

I think chulbert and joobie hit on the two main causes. And since google will release an app, I'll simply use whichever one suits my purpose better.

Seems like a win all around.
 
*shrugs*

I think chulbert and joobie hit on the two main causes. And since google will release an app, I'll simply use whichever one suits my purpose better.

Seems like a win all around.

But will Siri be allowed to launch the google app by default when users ask for directions? Or will it be like the browser where Safari is always defaulted even though users prefer Chrome?
 
But will Siri be allowed to launch the google app by default when users ask for directions? Or will it be like the browser where Safari is always defaulted even though users prefer Chrome?

User: "Open Chrome"

Siri: But, but, but.... *starts crying*.
 
I happened to be in an AT&T store 2 days ago and people were bombarding the employees with questions about camping out to get an iPhone just in hopes than someone else cancels their pre-order!!

I suppose the great campouts of 2012 have begun:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/story/2012/09/20/iphone-5-first-day-sales/57815108/1

That odd cultural phenomenon of geeks shamelessly engulfed in a retail love fest and sweaty urban camping experiment -- the line in front of Apple Stores for its latest gizmo -- is back again for the iPhone 5.

The ritual gathering in front of stores worldwide is once again swelling in numbers as fans queue up at stores in the U.S., U.K., Canada, France, Germany, Australia, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore for the Friday sale.

Fans are waiting -- some in tents -- to be first on the block with the latest from Apple.
 
I heard one here in Chicago on the radio this morning. He was going on and on about how wonderful the new iPhone was, rattling off features Galaxy S3 users have enjoyed for months. :p

eta: “I’m so obsessed with it, so I’m showing my loyalty by camping out,” said Darien Hutchinson, 19, one of the people who were camped out outside the Apple Store, 679 N. Michigan Ave. He got there on Wednesday, and the line has been forming ever since Tuesday afternoon.

...Sasha Markgraf, 18, bundled up in a sleeping bag Wednesday night and tried to stay warm. He said he just has to have the iPhone 5, and before most other people get one.

“I just like the new look of it. I mean, I’ve had iPhones since I can remember – since they came out – and now, I’m just moving up to the iPhone 5 because I like the upgrades,” he said.

The iPhone 5 has a larger screen and faster data speeds with 4G LTE, among other features.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/09/20/small-crowd-already-camped-outside-apple-store-for-iphone-5/

:D
 
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