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TheL8Elvis said:
You are arguing against iOS because you can't downgrade iOS versions.
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In the case of mumbles, he already explained it wasn't an aging device.

But my greater point is that these 2 anecdotes don't provide any evidence that being able to "revert to an earlier version of iOS when the update doesn't work properly" is necessary. It's not an issue that updates don't work properly.



Yes, yes, and yes.



No, I am arguing that these 2 anecdotes don't provide any evidence that being able to "revert to an earlier version of iOS when the update doesn't work properly" is necessary. The iOS versions that are designed to work on the hardware work on the hardware. Sometimes, as in the case of mumbles, upgrading in place can have issues. In that case, you restore as new, then restore from backup. I am not aware of *any* cases where the new iOS version simply does not work properly at all on hardware it is advertised to work on. Are you ?



I am sure there are. But didn't work well != didn't work properly, and that's called moving the goal posts.



Yes, during the time frame apple is still signing the older version, or if you save your SHSH blob using a tool like tiny umbrella when you install that version, you can use that to revert.

OR you could simply wait and read the dozens of detailed reviews that appear shortly after a new version is released and decide if you should "upgrade" your iOS version or not.
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Which I would recommend if a properly operating device is crucial to you. As well as waiting until the first update that bug-fixes a great deal is out.

I wich to stress that pretty much all problems found on internet forums are anecdotal, and cannot be used to determine how widespread, crucial or real a problem is.
 
arthwollipot said:
I have never been in that situation.
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Neither have I, really. The point wasn't to downgrade, it was to *upgrade*, while being able to easily import apps, settings, and so on.

And as I suspected, a good day of work (it involved a long power outage, moving a 2.5" external drive from an Mac Mini to a laptop, a lot of adjustments, etc.) revealed that it was an incompatibility between the backup and the new iOS that was the problem, and not the new iOS itself. As I said, I've been using the same basic backup plan since I got my 3GS at least - and even that was likely connected to my iPods from before then. The OS itself runs fine on my phone - so my solution will be to just start from scratch, rename the phone, start a new backup, and reinstall apps as needed.

To be clear, I blame Apple for this entirely. But at least it's fixed, and on the bright side, since I toss out all of the old data, apps, etc. that aren't even supported anymore.
 
William Parcher said:
iOS 8.1.1 is out. I haven't installed it yet on my phone.
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I have it installed on my aging iPad2. Update went without a hitch, which is a pleasant surprise -- the last ones on iOS7 and installing iOS8 required me to hook it up to the Mac and using iTunes to restore/apply the update.

Seems to have improved performance -- the slight lags it had, which only recently started to bother me, seem to be gone, but it will to wait until tomorrow to see in detail how much it improved.
 
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William Parcher said:
I installed it on my iPhone5. So far everything seems the same.
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I doubt that you specifically see any difference, as the update is reported to address performance issues on the iPad 2 and the iPhone 4s (the two oldest devices that can run iOS 8).
 
There's definitely an improvement in performance with iOS8.1.1. A couple of games I play a lot recently got laggy (and crashed) when I played them too long before the update, sometimes even hogging down the whole system. That seems to be gone.
 
Performance seems improved on iPhone 6 Plus, and iPad Air 2 - noticeably smoother on 6 Plus. Zoom transitions and orientation animations no longer intermittently choppy - nice and smooth, as is usual with iOS.
 
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