Again you are confusing reality with your bizarrely twisted view of reality, using your super-stupor ability to infer nonsense in a futile attempt to support your bizarrely twisted view of reality and so on and so forth in ever-decreasing circles to the point where you seem to have been swallowed whole by the fundamental(ist) orifice of IDiocy
As it is abundantly clear that there is NO evidence for ANY woo, suggesting that a scientist could confuse the so-called 'supernatural'with 'intelligence' is absurd
But then absurd is evidently the strongest suit of IDiots in their petty game of bluff
Boy, am I glad I have him on ignore. He just never actually says anything. I don't confuse intelligence with supernatural... I am well aware that intelligence evolves (except in some creationists)... I'm not the one who thinks it needs to be treated special... It's irrelevant to the analogy... it is an input in the human environment that speeds up the iteration process of the evolution of technological information.... Just as having tons of offspring speeds up the iteration process in the evolution of genomic information.
The funniest thing is that Mijo, et. al. never even seem to directly understand the stuff they quote and link-- it is never saying what they assume it's saying. It's so weird. But I've seen Jim Bob and Mijo do this in thread after thread after thread. They always think they are winning some imaginary argument. And Southwind merely asked if his analogy was useful in regards to addressing the common creationists strawman which says that "the probability of evolution occurring is about the same as the probability that a tornado blowing through a junkyard could form an airplane."
The problem with the analogy, of course, is that airplanes like life forms are built from information honed through time as selected for by the environment... the 747 didn't come into being any more magically that humans did. Information made things more and more like 747's over time as an iteration process of a human idea evolved. And genomes made things more and more like "life as we know it" over time and then more and more like us and all the other things that exist today as an iteration process based on the surrounding environment evolved.
Creationists avoid terms having to do with "information" being "selected" over
time-- because it blows their analogy apart. Their terms are all designed to confuse and they never communicate anything as simply and elegantly as southwind et. al. They can't. They have nothing. So they use strawmen and obfuscation. You can't pin down what the hell they are talking about any more than you can pin down what Mijo or Jim Bob are saying. They digress and digress and digress away from the simplicity... while patting themselves on the back as though they are being clear to anyone other than themselves.
Well, like all people with delusions based on faith--it's more fun to talk about them then to talk to them.
Southwind's analogy makes sense to you, right? And you are known for explaining things well. And your expertise is not genetics. I think that makes you a good representative-- That means that Southwinds analogy works at least some of the time. And I've never seen a creationist emphasize the selection process or the evolution of information over time. It's all about the "randomness".
What is really weird to me, is the goofballs keep insisting the analogy can't work despite person after person such as yourself saying it makes sense to them. You'd think they'd at least say, "I don't see how it could work, but I see that it does". They also claim it will play into ID hands--and yet everything written and posted and worked on by the "intelligent design" crowd de-emphasized information and selection and time while over emphasizing randomness and "intelligent inputs" exactly as they do. They see the words of creationists and in their head they align it with what Southwind is saying because some words line up. What they miss is the entire essence of the analogy...
Southwinds example boils down into a readily comprehensible model. Nothing Mijo, Jim-bob or any creationist can be boiled down to an essence. It all sounds like the murky confusion generated by a defense attorney with a guilty client to me.
Everything complex looks amazing and miraculous if you don't have a clue for decoding how it came to be.
(ETA:-- ack... I just saw this piece of Mijo's endless dishonesty quoted in your post: "
You are the one who is claiming, without any evidence I might add, that what human engineers do is exactly the same as what mutation and natural selection do"
Nobody recalls anything about anyone saying human engineers doing EXACTLY what mutation and natural selection do. What a red herring. We're talking about information being changed by the environment. Human generated information (memes, ideas, designs, thoughts, stories, desires) are altered by human environments just like choral reef "iterations" are altered by oceanic environments.
See... it's like he is willfully lying to himself and every one else about what is actually being said.)
