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India launches Airstrikes on Pakistan..

Pakistan needs to get a grip on the Islamic terrorists that operate, often unencumbered, within its borders. As usual, Islamic extremist militancy is the cause of yet more global unrest.
 
Pakistan needs to get a grip on the Islamic terrorists that operate, often unencumbered, within its borders. As usual, Islamic extremist militancy is the cause of yet more global unrest.

And India needs to stop it's drive to makes Muslims second class citizens in India.
Both sides are at fault here.
 
And India needs to stop it's drive to makes Muslims second class citizens in India.
Both sides are at fault here.

You don't need to be a Muslim to be a second - or third - class citizen in India. That said, Muslims get treated no worse in India than non-Muslims do in Pakistan, arguable far better.

Even if that were not the case, what has the status of Muslims in India got to do with Pakistan? It's none of their business, and certainly not grounds to enact terrorist attacks (there is never a valid reason for terrorism of any flavour).
 
Wnen you have two countries with nukes who don;'t like each other anyway having a military clash, it is by definitation serious.

"Serious" is not synonymous with "huge crisis".

And my understanding is that neither country has their nukes in a "ready to go" configuration. I believe Pakistan in particular has physically separated their weapons components, and distributed command authority within their hierarchy. For them to assemble and deploy a nuclear weapon would be a fairly drawn-out process requiring buy-in from several different senior officials.

You also said, "[t]his could get very serious very fast." But this is the first cross-border airstrike from India into Pakistan since 1971. Even though Pakistan has issued many serious provocations since then. This seems like an extremely slow pace of development of the situation.

My bet is that the only reason India decided to launch this attack at this time is because they're reasonably confident that Pakistan won't escalate.
 
Tell that to the Muslims being murdered by 'cow vigilantes' with police collusion.

Rakbar Khan: Did cow vigilantes lynch a Muslim farmer?

And that is the problem:You have two countries with nukes where it seems the religious fanatics are getting control.
I love the whole "But Muslims are not treated worse then other minorities argument.That might be true ...the Hindu fanatics don't like Sikhs or Christians any better...(not enough Jews in India for them to dislike) but that is a pretty damn poor defense.
I guess with some people religious persecution is fine..if the people being persecuted are Muslims.
 
Cows are holy animals in India. Best advice; don't go to India, disrespect their culture and break their laws and then you won't get targeted by the Bovine Boot Boys.

So you think Muslims also have a right to kill you if you break their religious laws.......
 
This is not a good thing.

I dunno.

dudalb's thread title says "airstrikes on Pakistan", but it's not like India struck at Pakistani armed forces, or their national command and control infrastructure, or anything else close to the military or political apparatus. Their target were insurgent groups that even the Pakistani government denies responsibility for. It's a violation of Pakistani sovereignty, certainly. But taking out deniable paramilitary forces isn't necessarily a net negative even in this context.

In 1999, Pakistani troops crossed the border into India, resulting in heavy fighting between the actual armed forces of the two nations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

And yet as we see, the situation did not become "very serious very fast". In fact, given the extent of Pakistan's sponsoring of anti-Indian insurgency over the years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India–Pakistan_relations#Wars,_conflicts_and_disputes

It seems that this airstrike is both remarkably restrained and long overdue. Airstrikes against insurgencies seems to be widely regarded as a cromulent and effective remedy in Syria and elsewhere. I'm in need of more convincing that it's not a good thing here, all things considered.

This is a serious matter, but I am pushing back against dudalb's drift into "sky is falling" territory. I'm also pushing back against the idea that it's not a good thing to strike insurgents where they are found, even if it means occasionally violating Pakistani airspace.
 
So you think Muslims also have a right to kill you if you break their religious laws.......

I'm just pointing out that the best way to avoid such an eventuality is to not break the laws and disrespect the customs of the country in which you live, however ridiculous they may seem. This applies to people living in a Muslim country too. If you want to stay alive I recommend you don't, for example, go piss up the side of a Pakistani mosque whilst wearing a cartoon Mohammed t-shirt.
 
There have been two terrible terror attacks last week by Jihadi freak gangs operating out of Pakistan: One in Iran and one in India, each with several dozen victims. Imran Khan has not been helpful in his statements basically insulting Modi after accepting a lot of money from Saudi Arabia. I don't think this will escalate very much but the meddling by the usual suspects is currently on a high level.
 
Even if that were not the case, what has the status of Muslims in India got to do with Pakistan? It's none of their business.

A statement thst ignores the partition of India in to two countries which is at the root of the problem.
 

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