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Imus be an idiot . . .

GroundStrength said:
Why are race and gender sacred cows when it comes to being made fun of?

Please come out into the real world where people are offended all the time for various and sundry reasons.

Who cares if you are offended becasue someone says to you or others who are not you , "That's so gay."

or "Nappy headed ho's" or "Inbred rednecks" or any number of other racial, gendered, sexual oriented comment meant
to either be funny or hurtful.

Mommy, won't always be there to kiss the boo-boo for you and make all the bad people stop making fun of you.

Neither should government.

When someone calls me an inbread redneck, I try and live by the motto

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me."

Cheers,
Number 1 nappy headed ho
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I read your post, but I only see "blah blah blah bullspit blah blah". It's a useless rant that argues a senseless argument.

I never stated the government should get involved. Never once. That isn't even an issue here. The government hasn't gotten involved, no one is advocating that the government get involved, so what the hell is your problem? Stop making up strawmen to attack, you'll just waste your energy and look stupid.

Oh, that's right! You jump into an issue without even trying to catch up on the conversation. Smart, dude.

But hey, you have no problem with calling a group of women hos, c unts, or gays faggots, or blacks n****rs... that's fine. You'll just demonstrate what kind of person you are, and people will know to avoid knowing you. Thanks for the sign. :)
 
Hey all!

I didn't read all nine pages of this, and am mostly uninterested in a radio dude I have never heard of, but I did come across this Amazing article on it...Very good stuff here.
 
Overman said:
Hey all!

I didn't read all nine pages of this, and am mostly uninterested in a radio dude I have never heard of, but I did come across this Amazing article on it...Very good stuff here.
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It would be a lot more amazing if Jason Whitlock wasn't so consistently tedious himself. I've found over the years that many of his opinions seem to be formed just to go against the "conventional wisdom." I wouldn't find that annoying on its own, and in fact often find that sort of thing entertaining, but he tends to use such poor logic that it just ends up being weak. The most significant example of this is his defense of Barry Bonds which seems to be rooted entirely in a belief that sports writers are against him because Barry isn't "media friendly."
 
Lonewulf said:
I clicked the link, hoping for new information. I saw none. I saw your erroneous claim that was debunked.

So yeah. You're wrong. Deal with it.

Oh, I'm sorry. Are you going to "put me in my place" now? :D
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Where was it debunked? Be specific. How was it debunked? Explain.

You keep claiming that what I have said is wrong and when I explain in vast detail how it's right, you say it's been debunked. When I asked HOW it's been debunked, you ignore me. It looks like I'm wasting my time.
 
Overman said:
Hey all!

I didn't read all nine pages of this, and am mostly uninterested in a radio dude I have never heard of, but I did come across this Amazing article on it...Very good stuff here.
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That's a great article.

While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.
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Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.
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I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?
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Dustin Kesselberg said:
Evidence? Nowhere in the definition of "Ho" does it specify race OR gender for that matter. Stop making things up.
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Oh great. Are you going to find us a positive way to look at "ho" now?

Besides a gardening tool.

Just for the record, I'm no fan of Jackson or Sharpton blabbing on and am on the fence with him being fired, but to even argue the statement was not offensive is just crazy to me.

Dustin, you keep showing the whole context and that makes it look even worse. He basically said they were rough looking, nappy headed, tat wearing, sold their bodies for sex, NBA mens team.
 
Babbylonian said:
It would be a lot more amazing if Jason Whitlock wasn't so consistently tedious himself. I've found over the years that many of his opinions seem to be formed just to go against the "conventional wisdom." I wouldn't find that annoying on its own, and in fact often find that sort of thing entertaining, but he tends to use such poor logic that it just ends up being weak. The most significant example of this is his defense of Barry Bonds which seems to be rooted entirely in a belief that sports writers are against him because Barry isn't "media friendly."
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"Conventional wisdom" is often wrong.
 
Tailgater said:
Oh great. Are you going to find us a positive way to look at "ho" now?

Besides a gardening tool.

Just for the record, I'm no fan of Jackson or Sharpton blabbing on and am on the fence with him being fired, but to even argue the statement was not offensive is just crazy to me.

Dustin, you keep showing the whole context and that makes it look even worse. He basically said they were rough looking, nappy headed, tat wearing, sold their bodies for sex, NBA mens team.
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I never said "ho" was a positive term. I simply said that it neither specifies race or gender. Juts because it isn't racist or Misogynist doesn't mean it's good word. :rolleyes:
 
Gosh, yes, excellent quotes, Dustin! They reveal Whitlock's thesis quite nicely: "Nobody should care what Imus said because other people say things that are worse." Maybe this is also why burglars don't get prosecuted as long as they take less than $1,000 worth of stuff: Because others have stolen much, much more.
 
But hey, you have no problem with calling a group of women hos, c unts, or gays faggots, or blacks n****rs... that's fine. You'll just demonstrate what kind of person you are, and people will know to avoid knowing you. Thanks for the sign.
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Actually I don't have a problem with it, as long as it is fair for everyone. You do it, I do it we all do it. Sometimes in jest, sometimes to be mean and sometimes because it is true.

Just because it involves race or gender or sexual orientation doesn't make it protected.

Why not just say to yourself or others, "Well that was stupid.", and move on.

Even if he meant it, isn't he allowed to be a racist?

I never stated the government should get involved. Never once. That isn't even an issue here. The government hasn't gotten involved, no one is advocating that the government get involved,
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Al Sharpton is, and others will soon be.

so what the hell is your problem?
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I thought I made that clear...people who actively look for ways to be offended for other people.

The only people that even have the right to be offended are the ones who were actually called 'nappy headed hoe's' by Imus.

Then they could just call him a 'nappy headed @ickhead' and be done with it.



you'll just waste your energy and look stupid.
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I'm okay with that. Better that than run around looking pedantic and childish(but I'm okay with that too)

Oh, that's right! You jump into an issue without even trying to catch up on the conversation. Smart, dude.
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Yes, reading nine pages of whining about being called a name, and inane arguments about the meaning of 'ho' would have been better.
 
GroundStrength said:
Even if he meant it, isn't he allowed to be a racist?
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Of course he can. Just not at MSNBC.

I thought I made that clear...people who actively look for ways to be offended for other people.

The only people that even have the right to be offended are the ones who were actually called 'nappy headed hoe's' by Imus.

Then they could just call him a 'nappy headed @ickhead' and be done with it.
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They could of, but they thought talking to him in private might be better than acting like him.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
"Conventional wisdom" is often wrong.
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Yes, it is. My point is simply that the fact that something is considered "conventional wisdom" doesn't make it wrong, so if you're going to argue against it you should bring something better to the table than "But, these other people are much worse!"

To Whitlock's credit, he didn't make any attempt in that article to defend the comments that Imus and his zoo crew made - you know, like saying that Imus gets a pass on making racist remarks because he himself has [had] curly hair.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
I never said "ho" was a positive term. I simply said that it neither specifies race or gender. Juts because it isn't racist or Misogynist doesn't mean it's good word. :rolleyes:
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I don't think he's a racist either. I think he is just ignorant to the fact that some terms from his youth are no longer acceptable and some new terms are not cool, but insulting. You fall back on the excuse that nappy was from the 50's. Guess what generation he is from?
 
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