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Imus be an idiot . . .

I've also found out that Sharpton once called New York City "Hymie-Town," and had I known that when he did it, I would have spoken out against him as well.

I just have trouble with anyone belittling another race or culture. When I was in the military I met friends of all races and all religions (and many different cultures) who I would have died for. To think that their children or grandchildren would be injured by such hurtful language bothers me greatly. Being a professional mud-mouth isn't any more an excuse than "I was making a joke," or "I just had too much to drink."

Actually, Hymietown was Jackson not Sharpton See:http://kpearson.faculty.tcnj.edu/Dictionary/hymie.htm
2nd definition.

Sharptons' big one was a teenager setting herself up as being assaulted by several people - most of whom were legal/gov't guides who would clearly have had one of the stupidest conspiracies ever to have done it. Sharpton fell for it big time - insisting on their guilt and her truthfulness until long after everyone else knew it was a giant , blatant lie.
 
Here's an older one of him with obviously "nappy" hair...

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OMG! I think you've spilled the beans, Dustin.

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Wrong again. According to common usage, one shows nappy hair, Imus is not.

How so? I've proven my point per the DEFINITION. You keep appealing to this so called "common usage" which you haven't proven even exists. Give it up.

I find it weird but entertaining to see to what extents you go to post your hysterical prancing outrage about Imus being called out for being an offensive jerk. Boy oh boy, Dustin, are you in for a life of disappointment.

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Who made up those rules?
they aer basic ruels of English. A phrase can have greater meaning than the sum of the meaning of its words.

Either way. Imus never mentioned their race. He mentioned their attributes, which happened to be nappy hair. Which they have. Which HE has as well. He's white.
Quite, and when conspiracy theorists calls Slievrstien a “hook nosed, international banker- hell bent murder in the name of Zionism” they’re not being anti-Semitic, because they never refer to they fact that he’s Jewish, and hey, they could have a hook nose themselves.

Racists are very good at using coded messages to give their racism “plausible deniability”- this is another such case.
 
they aer basic ruels of English. A phrase can have greater meaning than the sum of the meaning of its words.

You're making a sociological argument not a semantical or grammatical argument. I don't see how the "basic ruels(sic) of English" make any difference.


Quite, and when conspiracy theorists calls Slievrstien a “hook nosed, international banker- hell bent murder in the name of Zionism” they’re not being anti-Semitic, because they never refer to they fact that he’s Jewish, and hey, they could have a hook nose themselves.

Using "hook nosed" and "Zionism" in the same sentence means "Jewish". These key words when used together in this sentence and in this context do imply he's referring to a Jew. However in the context of the discussion on the Imus show, it had nothing to do with race.


Racists are very good at using coded messages to give their racism “plausible deniability”- this is another such case.

Do you have any evidence he's racist? This is borderline libel.
 
What a phony setup this whole story is.

Let's get a few things out of the way first. I don't listen to Imus; the few times I've heard him, I've found him to be annoyingly self-congratulatory and gratuitously insulting. But he seems to reserve his venom for public figures, people whose careers put them in the line of fire. Nothing wrong with that, but I don't choose to listen.

This time is different. The girls on the Rutgers basketball team have done nothing more public than to play very good basketball. Calling them "nappy-headed ho's" stepped over the line. Not because it's racist, but because it's gratutitous. He should apologize to them, personally. Last I heard, he asked to do just that, but they don't want to see him, preferring, I guess, their own self-righteous anger.

But as far as everyone else being offended, I think a lot of people need to get over themselves. Rap is a sewer of vile language glorifying the beating, raping, even killing of black "bitches" and "ho's." This has been going on for years.

Yet today, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama are upset because Imus said "nappy-haired ho's." Where has their outrage been all these years over rap lyrics? Why doesn't Sharpton picket the record labels that produce this garbage? Why doesn't he call for boycotts of the "artists" involved? Why doesn't he demand a public apology every time some rapper goes off about "slappin' the bitch"?

The hypocrisy here stinks. Black men can deliberately, with malice aforethought, say the vilest things about black women, and nobody troubles himself to even shrug a shoulder. But a white guy allows some ugly words to get to his tongue while the judgement center of his brain is momentarily stuck in neutral, and he must be driven from polite society. Whatever qualifies as "polite society" these days.

Spare me the moral indignation until you can show that your outrage is not simple hypocritical moral posturing.
 
In all of this, I am left with the question:

WHO GIVES A FLYING FIG WHAT IMUS SAYS ABOUT ANYTHING?

Seriously. His comments may have been tasteless, but, good grief, let's move ON. There are so many more important topics that our glorious news agencies should be focusing on. For example, I'm just stunned that they're not discussing the anticipated release of the Anna Nicole paternity tests today - now that's newsworthy. :rolleyes:

ETA: And what Beeps said.
 
It made the news today in Denmark, on National Danish Broadcasting.

I liked that they didn't even bother to translate. Apparently, Danes understand the phrase "nappy-headed ho" just fine.
 
...But a white guy allows some ugly words to get to his tongue while the judgement center of his brain is momentarily stuck in neutral, and he must be driven from polite society. Whatever qualifies as "polite society" these days.
Spare me the moral indignation until you can show that your outrage is not simple hypocritical moral posturing.
Oh, the phoney hysteria!

If you want to criticize Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama for any real offences, do so.

But stop prancing around with phoney exaggerations like "he must be driven from polite society".. Imus was deliberately offensive, he got slapped down for it, cry me a river and get over yourself, BPSCG. Go right ahead and criticize others if you want to, it still doesn't excuse Imus. Learn some logic, finally.
 
Yet today, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama are upset because Imus said "nappy-haired ho's." Where has their outrage been all these years over rap lyrics? Why doesn't Sharpton picket the record labels that produce this garbage? Why doesn't he call for boycotts of the "artists" involved? Why doesn't he demand a public apology every time some rapper goes off about "slappin' the bitch"?

I can't find any news stories of Obama saying anything about this. Got sources?
 
Oh, the phoney hysteria!

If you want to criticize Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama for any real offences, do so.

But stop prancing around with phoney exaggerations like "he must be driven from polite society".. Imus was deliberately offensive, he got slapped down for it, cry me a river and get over yourself, BPSCG. Go right ahead and criticize others if you want to, it still doesn't excuse Imus. Learn some logic, finally.

Imus accidentally said something offensive (Not racist, just offensive) and apologized SEVERAL times for it. He was never "slapped down". He was suspended by a cowardly news network who is too afraid to stand up to the ilk of Sharpton or Jackson. That's all.
 
I can't find any news stories of Obama saying anything about this. Got sources?

Haven't seen much, but there was this:

Obama, who appeared on "Imus in the Morning" last year to promote his memoir, told The Chronicle through a spokesperson: "With a public platform comes a trust. As far as I'm concerned, he violated that trust."

Link
 
You're making a sociological argument not a semantically or grammatical argument. I don't see how the "basic ruels(sic) of English" make any difference.
Language is a sociological construct- the rules of how English is understood means that you can have a phrase (such as "hook nosed evil Zionist") were no single word is racist, but the total meaning of the phrase clearly is. Using a racial a characteristic to qualify an insult makes the whole insult racially based.

Using "hook nosed" and "Zionism" in the same sentence means "Jewish". These key words when used together in this sentence and in this context do imply he's referring to a Jew. However in the context of the discussion on the Imus show, it had nothing to do with race.
bollocks, the words "nappy headed" refers to a stereotypical characteristic of black people, the term "ho" is predominantly black American slang- it is exactly the same as calling someone a hook nosed Zionist.

Do you have any evidence he's racist? This is borderline libel.
He called a group of black women "nappy headed ho's", the fact that he claims that this was "accidental" just makes him a careless racist.
If Imus objects he can contact my lawyers.
 
You're making a sociological argument not a semantically or grammatical argument. I don't see how the "basic ruels(sic) of English" make any difference.
Language is a sociological construct- the rules of how English is understood means that you can have a phrase (such as "hook nosed evil Zionist") were no single word is racist, but the total meaning of the phrase clearly is. Using a racial a characteristic to qualify an insult makes the whole insult racially based.

Using "hook nosed" and "Zionism" in the same sentence means "Jewish". These key words when used together in this sentence and in this context do imply he's referring to a Jew. However in the context of the discussion on the Imus show, it had nothing to do with race.
bollocks, the words "nappy headed" refers to a stereotypical characteristic of black people, the term "ho" is predominantly black American slang- it is exactly the same as calling someone a hook nosed Zionist.

Do you have any evidence he's racist? This is borderline libel.
He called a group of black women "nappy headed ho's", the fact that he claims that this was "accidental" just makes him a careless racist.
If Imus objects he can contact my lawyers.
 
You're making a sociological argument not a semantically or grammatical argument. I don't see how the "basic ruels(sic) of English" make any difference.
Language is a sociological construct- the rules of how English is understood means that you can have a phrase (such as "hook nosed evil Zionist") were no single word is racist, but the total meaning of the phrase clearly is. Using a racial a characteristic to qualify an insult makes the whole insult racially based.

Using "hook nosed" and "Zionism" in the same sentence means "Jewish". These key words when used together in this sentence and in this context do imply he's referring to a Jew. However in the context of the discussion on the Imus show, it had nothing to do with race.
bollocks, the words "nappy headed" refers to a stereotypical characteristic of black people, the term "ho" is predominantly black American slang- it is exactly the same as calling someone a hook nosed Zionist.

Do you have any evidence he's racist? This is borderline libel.
He called a group of black women "nappy headed ho's", the fact that he claims that this was "accidental" just makes him a careless racist.
If Imus objects he can contact my lawyers.
 
You're making a sociological argument not a semantically or grammatical argument. I don't see how the "basic ruels(sic) of English" make any difference.
Language is a sociological construct- the rules of how English is understood means that you can have a phrase (such as "hook nosed evil Zionist") were no single word is racist, but the total meaning of the phrase clearly is. Using a racial a characteristic to qualify an insult makes the whole insult racially based.

Using "hook nosed" and "Zionism" in the same sentence means "Jewish". These key words when used together in this sentence and in this context do imply he's referring to a Jew. However in the context of the discussion on the Imus show, it had nothing to do with race.
bollocks, the words "nappy headed" refers to a stereotypical characteristic of black people, the term "ho" is predominantly black American slang- it is exactly the same as calling someone a hook nosed Zionist.

Do you have any evidence he's racist? This is borderline libel.
He called a group of black women "nappy headed ho's", the fact that he claims that this was "accidental" just makes him a careless racist.
If Imus objects he can contact my lawyers.
 
You're making a sociological argument not a semantically or grammatical argument. I don't see how the "basic ruels(sic) of English" make any difference.
Language is a sociological construct- the rules of how English is understood means that you can have a phrase (such as "hook nosed evil Zionist") were no single word is racist, but the total meaning of the phrase clearly is. Using a racial a characteristic to qualify an insult makes the whole insult racially based.

Using "hook nosed" and "Zionism" in the same sentence means "Jewish". These key words when used together in this sentence and in this context do imply he's referring to a Jew. However in the context of the discussion on the Imus show, it had nothing to do with race.
bollocks, the words "nappy headed" refers to a stereotypical characteristic of black people, the term "ho" is predominantly black American slang- it is exactly the same as calling someone a hook nosed Zionist.

Do you have any evidence he's racist? This is borderline libel.
He called a group of black women "nappy headed ho's", the fact that he claims that this was "accidental" just makes him a careless racist.
If Imus objects he can contact my lawyers.
 

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