Imus be an idiot . . .

[Katana]

If Jackson and Sharpton were removed from that list
I would have no trouble agreeing with it. I haven't cared what either of them thought in a long time - and I am not likely ever to again.

Much like how I have neither cared for what Imus has ever said nor do I give a rat's a$$ about what he is going to say in the near or distant future.

 

[Mephisto]

Could you please explain that for us Brits? In the UK a nappy is a diaper. Apart from that I'm having trouble understanding what he meant.

"Ho", I understand, although I didn't realize it was race specific.

Here's a definition:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
nap·py3 [nap-ee]
–adjective, -pi·er, -pi·est.
1. covered with nap; downy.
2. (of hair) kinky.

The second definition is the relevant one. "Nappy-headed" is particularly offensive as it was directed at the Black females. "Ho's" was equally offensive considering these were young women atheletes engaged in a sporting event.

 

[Mephisto]

I strongly object to the title of this thread. It might look as if it were intended as a joke, but was obviously meant as a slur on the speech patterns of African-Americans. Punning the word "mus" for must and use of the infinitive "be" instead of "is" makes it quite obvious that Mephisto is willing to insult a whole ethnicity in order to make his little joke. Sho 'nuff.

I was actually making fun of the slurred speech of alcoholic cowboys. My apologies to any of those on this forum.

 

[Jeff Corey]

Actually, ex Marines.

 

[Darth Rotor]

"Ho's" was equally offensive considering these were young women . . . engaged in a "sporting" event.

Right.

Ho's.

Sorry, I just could not resist.

That's a four minute major, PWD.

It's a fair cop.

*skates to penalty box*

DR

 

[joe1347]

Remember "the Greaseman" and his infamous on-the-air comment. Imus is in 'big' trouble. AM radio here you come.

 

[Tricky]

Remember "the Greaseman" and his infamous on-the-air comment. Imus is in 'big' trouble. AM radio here you come.

Worse. Satellite.

 

[SezMe]

Latest news is that he is suspended for two weeks. My interpretation of that is that he'll never be back.

BTW, Joe, I already get him locally on AM. I think I'll tune it tomorrow to catch his side of the action.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

We're living in a society where political correctness has gone out of control.
This whole ordeal is one big bile of B.S. Dan Imus apologized clearly didn't mean anything racist by it. It's a joke. These idiots(Sharpton and Jackson) think it's constructive to gather their 15 supporters and picket outside of NBC headquarters. Constructive, when African American dropout rates and incarceration rates are at all time highs. But why? Why would they have their priorities so mixed up? Because speaking out against dropout rates doesn't get publicity. This does. And not to mention they likely aren't even smart enough to say anything intelligent about any other issues than these trifles.

 

[corplinx]

Did Don Imus really deserve to get thrown under the train over this crap?

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Did Don Imus really deserve to get thrown under the train over this crap?

No. NBC is cowardly so they let scoundrels like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson bully them into submission with their absurd tactics. How anyone other than the actual players of Rutgers could be offended is beyond me. Just a case of oversensitivity and political correctness gone awry.

 

[Mephisto]

No. NBC is cowardly so they let scoundrels like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson bully them into submission with their absurd tactics. How anyone other than the actual players of Rutgers could be offended is beyond me. Just a case of oversensitivity and political correctness gone awry.

Yeah, people are just too sensitive these days. People like Michael Richards, Jimmy the Greek, Newt Gingrich, Mel Gibson and George Lincoln Rockwell are just misunderstood. These are great men who've done more for our society than a million ghetto-dwellers. Stupid minorities.

 

[SezMe]

I disagree, Meph. Imus is a professional mud-mouth. He's always calling names - it's part of his schtick. The same cannot be said for the others you list. So he went to far, big deal. If he was really contrite, he would have invited the players into his studio (on his own dime) and apologized face-to-face. And he would have told Al to go stick it where the sun don't shine.

 

[Mephisto]

I disagree, Meph. Imus is a professional mud-mouth. He's always calling names - it's part of his schtick. The same cannot be said for the others you list. So he went to far, big deal. If he was really contrite, he would have invited the players into his studio (on his own dime) and apologized face-to-face. And he would have told Al to go stick it where the sun don't shine.

But, SezMe - should he be excused simply because he's a "professional" mud-mouth? I just can't understand the recent tendency for "professionals" (whether they're politicians, comedians, or movie stars) to mouth off regarding minorities without concern for how their remarks might be taken.

I also understand that Imus has requested an audience with the Rutgers basketball players and their parents, but has been turned down. Apparently they don't want to allow him to believe his apology is penance enough for his insensitivity.

I've also found out that Sharpton once called New York City "Hymie-Town," and had I known that when he did it, I would have spoken out against him as well.

I just have trouble with anyone belittling another race or culture. When I was in the military I met friends of all races and all religions (and many different cultures) who I would have died for. To think that their children or grandchildren would be injured by such hurtful language bothers me greatly. Being a professional mud-mouth isn't any more an excuse than "I was making a joke," or "I just had too much to drink."

 

[SezMe]

But, SezMe - should he be excused simply because he's a "professional" mud-mouth? I just can't understand the recent tendency for "professionals" (whether they're politicians, comedians, or movie stars) to mouth off regarding minorities without concern for how their remarks might be taken.

I'll admit it's a judgement call and reasonable people could come down on the issue differently. My call is not based on what all those others do, just on what Imus does. He's dumping on people all the time - this is just another instance. Those others you list are not in the same habit. So it is that context which sways the issue for me. But, again, I can see where others might judge that context insufficient an excuse.

I've also found out that Sharpton once called New York City "Hymie-Town," and had I known that when he did it, I would have spoken out against him as well.

No, it was Jackson.

I just have trouble with anyone belittling another race or culture. When I was in the military I met friends of all races and all religions (and many different cultures) who I would have died for. To think that their children or grandchildren would be injured by such hurtful language bothers me greatly. Being a professional mud-mouth isn't any more an excuse than "I was making a joke," or "I just had too much to drink."

As I said, perfectly reasonable people see this differently. I won't argue your position as being a justifiable alternative to mine.

 

[shecky]

Imus probably deserved to be thrown under the train a long time ago. But lets get real. You can't do stuff like call Rutgers' womens basketball team a bunch of black whores, and then act surprised if they get pissed off. So Imus takes his lumps for running his mouth.

Then he takes more lumps for agreeing to have anything to do with Sharpton. The first offense could have easily been an off the cuff accident. The second is sheer stupidity, completely self inflicted.

 

[Cain]

The Imus thing seemed like he was victim of a slow news day.

Ah, yes, Imus is the victim. I love it when BSers -- particularly GDFM alumni -- rant and rave about a culture of victimization until it comes to making excuses for racist blowhards like Imus.

SezSomeone:

I don't know most of the other people on that list but Sharpton stands out to me as one of the most racist "media commentators" there is.

What has Al Sharpton done to deserve this label?

 

[brodski]

http://nappyhairaffair.com/
http://www.nappystories.com/

My god, this man is Hitler.

More interesting to me, can anyone find who started this self perpetuating story? Who originally got their panties in a bunch and started this weird dogpile on Imus? Theres the real story.

Nappy was harmless until Wednesday of last week. Nappy nappy nappy.

You are missing the point. It was not the individual words that were racist, it was the phrase.

if I refer to a black woman as a black woman that is not a racial slur.
If i call a black woman a "bitch", while misogynistic, that is not a racial slur.
If i call a black woman a "black bitch" that is a racial slur, as a reference to racial characteristics has been included in the insult.

 

[jimtron]

Did anyone else catch this?
Okay, who can you make fun of? Obviously, politicians and entertainers. Who else?

Oh, fat guys and bald guys, too.

Anyone else?

You can make fun of anyone you like. So can Imus. And others are free to react.

Did Don Imus really deserve to get thrown under the train over this crap?

Imus is free to express himself, as his critics are. I know you're exaggerating, but what has Imus done that is akin to getting thrown under a train? And if Imus didn't think he did anything wrong, he shouldn't have apologized. Same with Michael Richards. Say whatever you want. If you feel you did nothing wrong, stick to your guns and don't apologize. If you realize you said something stupid, then apologize.

This really isn't so complicated. Imus admits he was wrong. I assume (but don't know for sure) that the players were offended. Other people not directly involved are offended. For those of you who aren't offended by the remarks, that's fine, but the argument that his words weren't offensive doesn't hold water. Maybe not to everyone, but demonstrably they were offensive to many, and Imus admitted he was wrong.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Yeah, people are just too sensitive these days. People like Michael Richards, Jimmy the Greek, Newt Gingrich, Mel Gibson and George Lincoln Rockwell are just misunderstood. These are great men who've done more for our society than a million ghetto-dwellers. Stupid minorities.

Now you're comparing Don Imus's "Nappy headed hos" to the anti-semitic ramblings of Mel Gibson or the "******, ******, ******," from Richards?