wardenclyffe
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Makes sense, but they have somehow archived it there.
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IIG testing dowser $50K challenge
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"To confirm this age-old belief, Mr. Rees will dowse 15 cardboard boxes, each of which conceals a 1 gallon plastic jug. Fourteen of the jugs will contain dry sand, and one of the jugs will be filled with water. He will have to accurately choose the jug with the water in each of 3 trials. Rees claims he can do this with 100% accuracy, and so must guess correctly all three times to qualify for the $50,000 prize."
Can anybody confirm that Mr Rees was claiming he could find a jug containing water, with the others containing sand with 100% accuracy, or whether he could find water by dowsing in the general sense with 100% accuracy, before the trial?
If I was going to volunteer for such a test and I knew this was going to be the method deployed, I would make damn certain that I practised the method beforehand at home, if only in an attempt to avoid the likelyhood of an humiliating failure in the glare of the cameras.
If he could do it at home with 100% accuracy, then he probably would have volunteered for that specific test with some confidence. If he failed the test, which it seems that he has, then that might prompt him to think why it all went wrong for him under controlled conditions.
What we need, IMHO, is a test designed totally by the dowser, then submitted to the testers for approval and its suitability for controls or changes to be applied that would provide a conclusive result. Then the dowser should approve the controls and any imposed subsequent changes, and self trial using the agreed methodology. Then, and only then, when satisfied he can repeat the success in the formal trials, should those trials go ahead.
This would save an awful lot of time, expense, and humiliation.
Can anybody confirm that Mr Rees was claiming he could find a jug containing water, with the others containing sand with 100% accuracy, or whether he could find water by dowsing in the general sense with 100% accuracy, before the trial?
If I was going to volunteer for such a test and I knew this was going to be the method deployed, I would make damn certain that I practised the method beforehand at home, if only in an attempt to avoid the likelyhood of an humiliating failure in the glare of the cameras.
If he could do it at home with 100% accuracy, then he probably would have volunteered for that specific test with some confidence. If he failed the test, which it seems that he has, then that might prompt him to think why it all went wrong for him under controlled conditions.
What we need, IMHO, is a test designed totally by the dowser, then submitted to the testers for approval and its suitability for controls or changes to be applied that would provide a conclusive result. Then the dowser should approve the controls and any imposed subsequent changes, and self trial using the agreed methodology. Then, and only then, when satisfied he can repeat the success in the formal trials, should those trials go ahead.
This would save an awful lot of time, expense, and humiliation.
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
And yet, with very rare exceptions like DowserDon, they never do.
I think it's because they already "know" that they can do what they claim, based on anecdotal evidence which they don't realise is wholely inadequate. The test is purely to convince other people of what they already "know". They can see that the test is fair, and that they will be able to pass it if they can do what they claim, so as they already "know" that they can do what they claim they see no point in going to the trouble of setting up a dry run.
rjh01
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jakesteele
Fait Accompli
Was James Randi or any of his cohorts there? Or even watching it on television? If so, that would explain a lot.
Czarcasm
Groovy Groovy Guru
And what exactly would it explain?
EHocking
Penultimate Amazing
Read the T&C for the test.
After IIG has officially accepted your Application, we’ll work with you to design a test protocol appropriate for your paranormal claim, with the goal of finalizing a mutually-approved Preliminary Demonstration Protocol Agreement (PDPA).
As with the MDC BOTH parties have to agree that the demonstration is fair and fitting to the claim.