If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Part II

beachnut said:
Failure personified - 9/11 truth followers.

The steel was corroded in fire.
https://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf

The steel was studied, and Cole ignores reality.
Cole's videos are all BS.
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No. Cole says the steel was studied. He also points out section C.6, which is on page 13. Let me show you what that says -

The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified.
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Cole does not ignore reality. He clearly shows that it was studied, and no conclusions were made.
 
FalseFlag said:
I am here to show people who come to this site that other evidence exists. I am also pointing out the absurdity of the logic the skeptics show.
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And how does either of those goals further the creation of a new investigation you say you want?


FalseFlag said:
People who come here should realize this is a nothing more than a support forum for people with severe cognitive dissonance and/or cognitive impairments. It's also an outlet for propaganda. This is an opinion. I have formed this opinion based on the tens of thousands of nonsensical posts made by skeptics.
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And there's the logical fallacy known as poisoning the well. I'm pretty certain we covered that before.

Calling it your opinion doesn't make it less of a logical fallacy.

Hank
(former lurker)
 
beachnut said:
You showed proof it was not themite...

You showed steel corroded in fire from 800 to 1000C, and there is a paper about it by FEMA.

Again you are 14 years behind, and haven no clue you debunked melted steel. You failed to post the report where you can do the Gish Gallop and quote mine stuff to support the fantasy of CD.

Cole has fooled you again, and he has no clue what eutectic is, neither do you. My roommate was a Chemical engineer - and I took Chem Engr 101 - you did not... lol
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Look at any Locomotive Firebox and Boiler that is up for its 10 year ticket.
If high sulfur coal has been used for any length of time you will see exactly the same damage on the firebox wrapper, throatplate and firetube ends.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Look at any Locomotive Firebox and Boiler that is up for its 10 year ticket.
If high sulfur coal has been used for any length of time you will see exactly the same damage on the firebox wrapper, throatplate and firetube ends.
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Oops. Think about what you're saying. Where does the sulphur come from in an office fire? Please provide a link to an experiment that confirms your claim.

Here, just to get a head start, let me show my experiment that shows sulphur will not come from a normal office fire.

Here's my proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvQDFV1HINw

Now you show yours.
 
FalseFlag said:
It sounds like you desperately want a new investigation. I have already posted links that show you where you can help everyone get the answers they are looking for.
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Yea. Along with "software engineers", "landscape architects", "computer engineers" and other relevant people.

I don't need a new investigation. I knew exactly what happened before the 2nd tower even fell, and I've yet to be proven wrong. Heck, I've yet to hear anything that would make me pause and go "hmm".
 
Captain_Swoop said:
There was an investigation. It was the biggest undertaken by the FBI...
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Cap'n, I'm not certain of that. The FBI interviewed over 25,000 people during the Kennedy assassination investigation they performed as one of the investigative arms of the Warren Commission.

Not sure if the 9/11 investigation exceeded those numbers. Or even if those numbers are the proper way to quantify such a claim.

Reasonable people may differ here.

All the best.

Hank
 
FalseFlag said:
Cole's video stands on its own. If you disagree with anything it contains, perform an experiment that shows you are correct.
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I would but flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper would get me locked up. Now it's your turn to perform an experiment demonstrating jets and fire were not responsible for the collapses. What you don't understand is replicating the results of the collapses does not prove that's how the collapses actually happened.
You have avoided answering this question I asked earlier: Why is it so easy for you to believe the USA government did it than it is to believe a bunch of terrorists did it?
 
FalseFlag said:
Oops. Think about what you're saying. Where does the sulphur come from in an office fire? Please provide a link to an experiment that confirms your claim.

Here, just to get a head start, let me show my experiment that shows sulphur will not come from a normal office fire.

Here's my proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvQDFV1HINw

Now you show yours.
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Well, batteries from UPSs. They contain sulfuric acid, there were whole banks of them in the towers. Gypsum Wallboards release sulfur when they burn. Those steel beams sat in the burning rubble pile for days.
 
corroded steel proves to be corroded steel at 800 to 1000 C in fire

FalseFlag said:
Oops. Think about what you're saying. Where does the sulphur come from in an office fire? Please provide a link to an experiment that confirms your claim.

Here, just to get a head start, let me show my experiment that shows sulphur will not come from a normal office fire.

Here's my proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvQDFV1HINw

Now you show yours.
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Explain what was normal about the fires on 9/11 which lasted weeks...

The steel was corroded in fire, and Cole failed to do more than insulate the steel he used from the fire with wallboard, the same as the WTC. The wallboard was stripped from the steel on 9/11 during the collapse.

Cole did not prove anything except he is incompetent, and is able to fool people who can't do Chemical engineering, and science..

What does the steel corroded in fire mean to you? It did not melt, it was corroded in fire and the eutectic proves the fires, ordinary fire, was 800 to 1000C. The steel was not melted, it was corroded.

https://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf
Big fail, from Cole, the sewer engineer who failed to take chemical engineering courses to learn what a eutectic is. Did you take any engineering courses?


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That is kind of funny since the NIST supposedly did the actual investigation and ASCE, AIA and CTBUH etc. merely rubber stamped their agreement. Real investigations cost money. There was little to no incentive for other proNIST organizations to invest in any confirmation investigation that would most likely antagonize the federal government. A quick read and a "yeah, sure" sufficed.
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A lie, and it shows a lack of knowledge on what ASCE, and CTBUH said about NIST. Big failure. BS, the only evidence used by 9/11 truth for the delusional fantasy of CD, inside job, and remote control nonsense.
 
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