If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Part II

Cosmic Yak said:
You may be used to it, mate, but this is a first for me.
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They have threatened to bury me in concrete or hang me from a New York lamp post as well as tar and feather me, or drop me in a Volcano.
I wear each threat with a badge of pride, I must be getting under their skin to have so much hate directed my way.:)
 
FalseFlag said:
Is your claim that reading the NIST reports will provide me with all the facts?

Wait for it...
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No need to wait.

Yes, it will provide you with all the facts ...

... the facts you need to know to understand what the NIST engineers really said, because you can NOT get this info from reading clueless Truther info.

... the facts that you need to know every time you attempt to cite "the official story".

... the facts that you need to address when you are attempting to prove something is mysterious, inexplicable or, e.g., "indicative of CD".

... the facts that you need to know in order to not look like a complete idiot when debating these issues.

Thus far, you've looked like a total moron on many occasions, precisely because you have not read, and are woefully uninformed about, the document that you claim is fraudulent.
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PS. You do not need to read the whole thing. (You should not. You have none of the background needed, and the signal to noise ratio will drop to near zero if you do attempt to read the whole thing.)

You should scan (& pay close attention to) the NIST Project Leaders, the NIST Technical Staff, the Experts & Consultants and the Contractors for each volume. For most of the volumes, they list them only by name. You should put in a little effort to check out their qualifications. This would do you a world of good...

You should read the Abstract & the Executive Summary in each volume.

You should read, carefully, the Table of Contents of each volume. That'll give you a good high-level view of the organization of each.

And you should read the Preface at least once. This tends to be the same, over & over in each volume.

You should pay close attention to the sections in the Preface about NIST's "Information Quality Standards" & "NCSTAR Advisory Committee".

Finally, you should copy & paste the Table of Contents from each volume into a single text file. This will give you an immediate road map to any specific question that you might have to answer, across all the volumes.

I'd give you my copy of that text file, but I find you intellectually lazy. The exercise would be good for you.

Not that I expect you to do any of the above...
 
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FalseFlag said:
Thanks. I know the new avatar is pretty awesome. It seems disrespectful to use an avatar showing people being murdered. Of course, it's not nearly as bad as committing and supporting fraud to delay, hinder, thwart, suppress, or otherwise undermine an actual investigation into their murder. Now, who would actually be such a hardcore ******* to take part in the latter?
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Strangely enough I can answer this question. The hardcore ******** is Tony Sz, he has all the evidence and he won't report it.
 
Spanx said:
Strangely enough I can answer this question. The hardcore ******** is Tony Sz, he has all the evidence and he won't report it.
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Good thought, but we know it's really the ISF that stands in the way of any new investigation!

FalseFlag said:
It seems disrespectful to use an avatar showing people being murdered. Of course, it's not nearly as bad as committing and supporting fraud to delay, hinder, thwart, suppress, or otherwise undermine an actual investigation into their murder. Now, who would actually be such a hardcore ******* to take part in the latter?
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FalseFlag said:
I try to get a new investigation started. Many of the skeptics here try to stop it from ever happening.
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You see, whenever someone hands a DA irrefutable evidence of mass murder, the DA logs on here first to see what the ISF skeptics think of the case.

Whenever an insurance company executive learns that there's enough evidence for their company to recover billions of dollars by proving that the losses of 9/11 were caused by a U.S. government false flag operation, they check with the ISF first before going after their money.

Whenever an ambitious journalist figures out that all the evidence for the most important story of their lifetime is right there in the videos and quote snippets, their editor says, "Don't be all going off half-cocked, kid. A story this big, we need to have all our ducks in a row. Have you run this by the ISF?"

Opposition political parties, rival and hostile foreign governments, social reform charities, multinational corporations, quirky nouveau-riche tech billionaires, mega-churches, elite universities around the world… none of them makes a move without checking with the ISF first. This very thread is being read at this very moment by thousands of movers and shakers and decision-makers across the globe.

So let's remember, skeptics. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Chant it with me: Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress.
 
Myriad said:
So let's remember, skeptics. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Chant it with me: Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress.
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I'm afraid I can't do any thwarting today as I have to submit my NWO pay claim for May. Back to full suppression mode tomorrow. Hope that's OK.
 
Myriad said:
So let's remember, skeptics. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Chant it with me: Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress. Delay, hinder, thwart, suppress.
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Why is it that I always draw the "thwart straw".
I HATE thwarting.!

People ask me what I do for a living, and when I say, "I'm a thwarter", & I always get this WTF look... They all think that I think that I'm a coin.

None of the really hot babes are impressed by "thwarters".

I'm done thwarting.
From now on, I'm holding out for "suppressing"...
Or retirement.
 
I just graduated from the NWO Foil Course & Thwarting School at our secret base in North Carolina. Soon I will be driving around in a tie-dye van with a Great Dane looking into haunted amusement parks.


...oh, and keeping the masses down...:thumbsup:
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
They have threatened to bury me in concrete or hang me from a New York lamp post as well as tar and feather me, or drop me in a Volcano.
I wear each threat with a badge of pride, I must be getting under their skin to have so much hate directed my way.:)
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One hopes this was empty rhetoric, but even so, it's still indicative of the mentality of some truthers/ CT-ists.
Which is odd, really. They claim to be opposed to oppression and injustice, yet, if they did actually seize control, the horrors of the society they would create would dwarf what we see now - reminiscent of Stalin's purges, or the Reign of Terror after the French Revolution. Vigilante justice, an all-encompassing surveillance (no secrets, remember?), the marginalisation and persecution of learning and expertise, economic collapse due to the destruction of banks and businesses....enough to give George Orwell nightmares, really.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
One hopes this was empty rhetoric, but even so, it's still indicative of the mentality of some truthers/ CT-ists.
Which is odd, really. They claim to be opposed to oppression and injustice, yet, if they did actually seize control, the horrors of the society they would create would dwarf what we see now - reminiscent of Stalin's purges, or the Reign of Terror after the French Revolution. Vigilante justice, an all-encompassing surveillance (no secrets, remember?), the marginalisation and persecution of learning and expertise, economic collapse due to the destruction of banks and businesses....enough to give George Orwell nightmares, really.
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I did have one truther try to knife me in the back once, I convinced his Girl that the Truther Ideas were all a load of fallacious bull crap, and he got very angry with me.
She was very bright, and smart just uneducated, he was an educated moron,with a liberal arts degree.
When I pointed out the facts she absorbed them like a sponge, they just bounced of his truther armor of stupid claims. I think they broke up that night and he blamed me, for it.
 
FalseFlag said:
Who designed this graph? How many seconds are represented?

https://youtu.be/e8N6V68jotg?t=153

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/factsheet/wtc_qa_082108.cfm

Where did I say the total collapse was 6 seconds? If I did, you have misunderstood my statement. I have always been referring to the graph and stages which were created by NIST.
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Sure you did, but the other stages of collapse are inconsequential aren't they FF? Only the 6.6 seconds of global collapse really mean anything and especially a further slice of that stage that is 2.25 seconds, which is really, really, really special and oh so indicative of what took place inside the building to cause this near 20 second collapse sequence.

Right FF?
 
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jaydeehess said:
Sure you did, but the other stages of collapse are inconsequential aren't they FF? Only the 6.6 seconds of global collapse that we actually saw before the surrounding buildings obscured the rest of the global collapse really mean anything and especially a further slice of that stage that is 2.25 seconds, which is really, really, really special and oh so indicative of what took place inside the building to cause this near 20 second collapse sequence.
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FTFY. AFAIK 6.6 seconds wasn't even the full time taken for the façade collapse. The cherry-picking is that specific.

Dave
 
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