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Split Thread ICE arrests mayor

ponderingturtle said:
Except that the act of being let in is legally an invitation.
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That is the correct interpretation of law. The mayor is clearly an invitee under the law in this instance. It is utterly irrelevant what representations may have been made, or what circumstances may have prevailed, prior to the granting of license to enter. But once granted, that license is a defense against a charge of trespassing. Under case law, a person whose license to remain is revoked must leave "forthwith" or be liable to a further charge of trespassing, but this is defined as a reasonable time to effect a departure and does not render the prior sojourn retrospectively a trespass.
 
JayUtah said:
That is the correct interpretation of law. The mayor is clearly an invitee under the law in this instance. It is utterly irrelevant what representations may have been made, or what circumstances may have prevailed, prior to the granting of license to enter. But once granted, that license is a defense against a charge of trespassing. Under case law, a person whose license to remain is revoked must leave "forthwith" or be liable to a further charge of trespassing, but this is defined as a reasonable time to effect a departure and does not render the prior sojourn retrospectively a trespass.
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We dont know why he was let in.

He may have threatened to have the guy fired if he was not let in.

He may have lied about his authority to enter the complex.

You're assuming it was all up and up and honest.

However, at some point ICE told him to leave, and he did not leave at first. That may have been criminal.
 
Hercules56 said:
We dont know why he was let in.

He may have threatened to have the guy fired if he was not let in.
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And? I laughed that off when I had a lousy retail job. I can't imagine that threat would hold any weight with a federal employee.
Hercules56 said:
He may have lied about his authority to enter the complex.
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Which is why you have a managerial hierarchy. You don't know about this guy? Call your manager.
Hercules56 said:
You're assuming it was all up and up and honest.
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What possible lie could Baraka have told that could not have been shattered with a phone call?
Hercules56 said:
However, at some point ICE told him to leave, and he did not leave at first. That may have been criminal.
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Told by whom? A security guard who doesn't understand policy in your scenario?
 
Donal said:
And? I laughed that off when I had a lousy retail job. I can't imagine that threat would hold any weight with a federal employee.

Which is why you have a managerial hierarchy. You don't know about this guy? Call your manager.

What possible lie could Baraka have told that could not have been shattered with a phone call?

Told by whom? A security guard who doesn't understand policy in your scenario?
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There is no policy that allows a local mayor free access to a ICE facility at any time he desires.
 
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