I Won The Challenge And Randi Refused To Pay

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"Will YOU be persuaded??????"

I might be Persuaded!!

But first I have some questions:

1 Will those who fail to accept the word of God burn in the Hellfire?

2 What happens to those who die without hearing the holy word?

3 Did your pastor turn his garage into a church?
 
And now the answer:

Thanks guys - do love you all of course.

Can't say it's mutual since I haven't meet you, let alone invited you to my bed. Off cause if I had, I doubt you had the energy to come here and sprout nonsense.

As for God putting people in Hell - WELL, what do we do with our garbage down here on earth?

We BURN IT...

Wrong. I recycle. Paper/Glass goes in one container, so does cans etc.
Old clothes gets send to Africa or other places where they need it or get refitted into cleaning rags.
And vegetables goes into my parents garden.
In religion, this is called reeincarnation.

Truth is, NO-ONE gets to heaven (HAVING HEARD THE GOSPEL AND REJECTED IT)...

Good. Sounds like a pretty boring place when all you do is sit around all day playing a harp.
Besides: Wrong pantheon.

If you have NEVER heard of Christ and His Cross and Salvation through His Holy Blood By Faith - YES - then you are EXCUSED...and Judged solely on two things only - YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS and YOUR KNOWING THAT THE UNIVERSE IS CREATED...

Ok, where did anyone ask you about that? And I don't believe in ID. Wrong pantheon and religion again.
And I did know about christianity, remember? I grew up as one? Funny thing is I've never been as happy as I've been since I rejected it.

However, Since The Time of The Resurrection UNTIL NOW - Multitudes HAVE heard and HAVE Rejected...

This is their WILFUL choice...


You DO have a Choice of course...

Thank you. And I've made my choice.

Hell or Heaven - EASY REALLY....

Again: Neither your heaven nor your hell have a claim on me as I am not a christian.

Trouble is, EVERYONE that has read This Post CANNOT NOW SAY they have NOT been WARNED !!

Noted. But not testifiable. Still no go on the challenge. And still the wrong pantheon. I can't wait untill you meet the old man with the beard.....


Are you asking or stating?

So, if you DON'T Believe The Gospel, you must ask yourself WHY don't I believe...

Your gospel is in the wrong religion. I don't believe it.
I'm not even sure it's a good piece of fiction.

Is The Resurrection of The Son of God too difficult to grasp?

Provide evidence for said event and we'll talk again.

You may eagerly study the photos of Saturn and the sub-atomic structure of a human brain cell....

Which is MORE Miraculous?

That is a result of science. It can be tested. Your claim can't.
A miracle would be tangible, scientific evidence of the existance of your God. Or my Lord and Lady for that sake.
And that is the crucial difference between the two of us:
I don't need to prozelyse to feel secure in my belief nor do I need to count souls or feel afraid of eternal retribution to justify my religion. It just is.
Maybe you should take a look at the foundation of your own beliefs and remember this little thing from your bible:
"Thou see the splinter in Thy brothers eye but not the log in your own."

If you CAN understand this question and answer wisely, then you WILL Know that Both are Part and PARCEL of the SAME Living God.

Still wrong pantheon. And I'm not the one taking the challenge here. It is not up to me to provide evidence. It is up to you.

Here is the reason why : ENJOY READING :-

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Wrong religion againg. I am in favour of the Big Bang theory. I also believe in evolution, that the Earth is a semi-round shape and that I'll be watching "Dogma" later tonight as you are rapidly loosing your entertainment value.
 
Elijah777 said:
If you have NEVER heard of Christ and His Cross and Salvation through His Holy Blood By Faith - YES - then you are EXCUSED...and Judged solely on two things only - YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS and YOUR KNOWING THAT THE UNIVERSE IS CREATED...

However, Since The Time of The Resurrection UNTIL NOW - Multitudes HAVE heard and HAVE Rejected...

This is their WILFUL choice....

You DO have a Choice of course...

Hell or Heaven - EASY REALLY....

Trouble is, EVERYONE that has read This Post CANNOT NOW SAY they have NOT been WARNED !!

Then why isn't the Christian position just to keep their mouths shut about it all? Think about it, if everyone hid their Bibles and never mentioned the J-word, we'd all be excused and in Heaven, right? Try that for a while.
 
Thanks guys - do love you all of course.

As for God putting people in Hell - WELL, what do we do with our garbage down here on earth?

We BURN IT...

Truth is, NO-ONE gets to heaven (HAVING HEARD THE GOSPEL AND REJECTED IT)...

If you have NEVER heard of Christ and His Cross and Salvation through His Holy Blood By Faith - YES - then you are EXCUSED...and Judged solely on two things only - YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS and YOUR KNOWING THAT THE UNIVERSE IS CREATED...

However, Since The Time of The Resurrection UNTIL NOW - Multitudes HAVE heard and HAVE Rejected...

So, if you preach the Gospel to someone who has never heard it, and they reject it, are YOU personally responsible for sending them to Hell?

Wouldn't it be better to just leave them alone and let them take the safer route?

ETA: Didn't notice that prewitt81 made a similar point above. This was originally brought up by an Episcopal missionary with similar beliefs who went to China and told 100,000 people about Jesus, but won only 10,000 converts. He realized to his great dismay that he had condemned 90,000 souls to Hell...
 
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Elijah777 said:
As for God putting people in Hell - WELL, what do we do with our garbage down here on earth?

Who are you to call anyone garbage? Don't insult me or my friends here. They are trying to combat ignorance and make the world a better place, and in doing so, have accomplished more than you ever will. You hold on to outdated stories of an angry god. What has fear and ignorance ever done to advance mankind?

Does it really make sense to you that a perfect god would make imperfect man and then punish him forever for being imperfect? I know I sound like a broken record sometimes, but the worst person who has ever lived doesn't deserve the punishment of the Christian Hell. If your god is more loving and compassionate and merciful than me, then he should feel the same way, right?
 

YUCK! YUCK! MY EYES ARE BURNING!!!!MY EYES ARE BURNING!!!!

Oh, my poor retinas.........
*returns to the JREF*
Ahhh....Blessed good layout....Holy be thy creation and blessed be Thy Webdesigner for bringing Thy soothing colours to Thy humble visitors....

I think that we should, at this point, consider it a natural law that all fundies have badly designed websites.......

The second one have been loading for quiet a while now.......
 
Can't say it's mutual since I haven't meet you, let alone invited you to my bed. Off cause if I had, I doubt you had the energy to come here and sprout nonsense.
She both battles the troll and turns me on. I am most impressed by the unimpressed female.
 
Historians date Daniel at ~200AD, not 500BC. Jewish sources after 500BC make no mention of him and his work betrays an ignorance of the time and place he is supposedly writing. That said, here is the "prophesy" you've identified with Hitler. The entire prophesy:

8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
8:18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.
8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
8:22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
8:26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
8:27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

Interesting, no? Persia, Media, Greece. These areas describe, should you be so inclined to read history or crack open an atlas, Elijah777, the old Ottoman Empire. Modern day Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Egypt and the Holy Lands where Daniel lived.

I'd have to say that Hitler is thus disqualified.
 
I can only concur. That first one is a right dog's breakfast.

M.

The second one is even worse. I actually tried to read the words. Too many colors. Instead of trying to get his word out, he is making it so hard to read.... Kind of ironic.

LLH
 
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man
in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth
mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming
in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

...And he shows a picture of an airliner flying over.

Is this a JOKE?
 
He's pretty fixated on KJV versus modern translations. It was, after all, authorized.

I'm going to go look at the other one. If I don't come back, tell my wife I love her.
 
The second one is even worse. I actually tried to read the words. Too many colors. Instead of trying to get his word out, he is making it so hard to read.... Kind of ironic.

LLH

The annoying colors and graphics aren't enough -- he has actually learned to annoy people with javascript! There's a textbook in this somewhere....
 
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