I Won The Challenge And Randi Refused To Pay

[milesalpha]

To get Monty Python's or Mr. Bean's humour it seems helpful to possess a bunch of british/anglo-saxon genes, let's say, at least three pounds.

I like Monty Python's originality and their sense for hiding pearls of wisdom under piles of absurdity. But I find their work not asthetically pleasing enough - nevertheless I assume it's not meant to be.

Perhaps I was raised with different influences. More Lö-Bräu. (If you can tell me where I took that last reference from, you da man.)

Sorry I don't recognize it. I am something of a fan of good low brow humour though. My favorite of all time in that genre is "The Kentucky Fried Movie", the first film by the guys who later did Airplane and the Naked Gun. Incredibly un-PC, tasteless, crass and the only movie to ever knock me out of a theater seat laughing. I actually had to leave the theater doubled over because I had been laughing so hard for 90 minutes.

 

[GzuzKryzt]

Sorry I don't recognize it. I am something of a fan of good low brow humour though. My favorite of all time in that genre is "The Kentucky Fried Movie", the first film by the guys who later did Airplane and the Naked Gun. Incredibly un-PC, tasteless, crass and the only movie to ever knock me out of a theater seat laughing. I actually had to leave the theater doubled over because I had been laughing so hard for 90 minutes.

Agreed. "The Kentucky Fried Movie" rules. But what does "doubled over" mean?

You will find "Lö-Bräu" on a beer bottle in the episode "The Route Of All Evil" from the short-lived show "Futurama".
Leela, Fry & Bender want to buy some beer in a store but instead decide to brew their own. "Lö-Bräu" is one of the brands available in the store. (Ok, I am a geek.)

 

[Odin]

I have a serious question for prophet Elijah777,

If verses of the bible contain prophecies of future events, does that mean these verses are not also to be taken literally?

 

[prewitt81]

"and all green grass was burnt up". Well, it is clear that all green grass has not been burnt up, and, hopefully, never will be. When we come across an anomaly like this we must look deeper for the meaning.

I love it! When the bible's right, it's right, and when it's wrong, it's still right, we just need to look deeper.

 

[Elijah777]

777

I have a serious question for prophet Elijah777,

If verses of the bible contain prophecies of future events, does that mean these verses are not also to be taken literally?

Hi Odin - thank you - for a change a sensible and relevant question with some depth and honour instead of being defaming..

Also, PLEASE note for the record that this post was Odin's having reached the number 777 - as stated before, there are NO coincidences.

It IS a difficult question.

First off, The Bible DOES contain Prophecies of future events, the word "if" is not even a factor for consideration.

Having personally experienced accurate dreams and visions and multiple so called "de ja vus" off the Richter Scale of probability, since 1974, all i can say is this:-

Prophet in Hebrew translates as Poet by some definitions.

The Original language of all the earth BEFORE The Tower of Babel WAS Hebrew.

This language passed on through Babel to the family group of Abram - later to be renamed Abraham.

Therefore the word "poet" has relevance.

Do we take Bible Prophecies LITERALLY...

First, what is LITERAL ?

For example, The Prophecies of The Lord JESUS Christ were both direct and literal AND some Deeper Ones were "hidden" within the body of the text in Psalms (for example)...

A very good LITERAL One is now cited for an example :-

Mark 13
1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

TRANSLATION : In AD 70, 33.5 years AFTER The Lord Ascended, there was a Jewish revolt against the Roman occupation of Jerusalem. It erupted with such severity that, during the course of suppressing it, the Roman soldiers DESTROYED the very Temple referred to above in Mark 13 : 1

In fact, it was SO severe in Destruction that the Romans prised apart every stone and threw them down into the valley nearby.

All that remains to this day is "The Wailing Wall"

To get an idea of the size of the Temple that was destroyed take a look at the two pics of the Wailing Wall :-

1)

2)

So we can see the LITERAL fulfillment of One Prophecy from JESUS.

Now take a look how Daniel dealt with the EXACT SAME historical event, in the non-literal poetic context. Written around 538 years before JESUS was "Born Again"...

Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

So, here, we have Prophetic Timing - and this takes revelation to translate as follows :

One Translation as follows : The Roman Catholics sought to confirm the date of the Birth of Christ around 525 AD...to do so, they examined Roman history records and finally confirmed the date, this was done by Dionysius Exiguus.

However, later examination discovered that Dionysius Exiguus was off by 4 years because of an error. Hence the real date of the Birth of Christ is 4 BC.

This error has never been corrected, hence the incorrect date - even to this very day, based on the chronology from the Birth of Christ (There may be another 10 years missing in the calendar also).

However, JESUS was 12 years old when His EXCEPTIONAL Wisdom was finally made public, and the age of 12 is a special time also - beginning of adult male maturity.

Luke 2
40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.

46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. 47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

Why all this detail herein?

Back to Daniel : (this is NOT the only Translation and Observation, but IS relevant to the actual DATE of the destruction of the Temple)

"And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off"

Taking only the number 62 (threescore and two) and adding to the age of the first recorded statement of Christ at 12 years old (IN THE TEMPLE), we arrive at the number 74 - LESS the missing 4 years, we come to AD 70.

There is another, far deeper and much grander Translation of Daniel's "Time Frame".

It is universally agreed that The LORD God (The Holy Father of JESUS) STOPPED Speaking to the Jewish people in the days of Malachi - the last Old Testament Prophet, 400 BC.

A more precise date being 396 BC :- so, using the above Prophecy from Daniel, we take 62 weeks and turn that into years by multiplying by 7.

Then we get a more Relevant Daniel Date of 434 years. (Daniel's Visions ARE to the end of Time).

Add 434 years to the Time that God STOPPED Speaking to the Jewish people, and we arrive at the exact Year of The Crucifixion of Christ.

Hence a Second Depth to this Prophecy :- "shall Messiah be cut off"

The people of the prince that shall come - WERE The Roman soldiers, and this prince was INDEED Titus

Read the history of this event here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Jerusalem

CONCLUSION :-

Biblical Prophecy can be both literal and DEEP - requiring Translation in the Light of Proven History.

(In fact there a multiple layers and depths to The Word of God : Here are SEVEN Levels : Personally Convicting, Historical, Revelationary, Educational, Prophetic, Commanding, Poetic - ALL under The Keyword of TRUTH..and this is The Holy Gospel - The Perfect Truth of God - Amen)

Who can do such Translation? - This is The Choice of God in those He Anoints with "Gifting"..there have been and still are MANY...

How can we determine who has such Gifting?

Deuteronomy 13
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

On a personal note, i can truly confess to NOT being infallible; nevertheless, that which i KNOW i do indeed Know - God is a Spirit in Seven.

Did i SEEK to have this gift? NO..it was "bestowed" for The Grand Purpose of The LORD of ALL.

The first written prophecy (for me) was in 1974 and came in the form of a piece of poetry. The main theme of the poem became an historical event of some magnitude about 6 weeks LATER...

Needless to say, at the tender age of 18 this was a MAJOR EVENT and indeed changed the entire course and direction of my own life...

So much so, it was DIRECTLY responsible for me being here now typing in this forum of "critique".

Why do i bother?

Out of Love and Revelation...Hoping that some reading herein "May See The Light" and renounce their sin and falsehood and GET SAVED...

As this IS The Final Commandment of Christ Who is GOD for all of us down here...The Final Judge....

The Son INHERITED ALL POWER and AUTHORITY from The Father...

Hope you understand.

Also, for the Danish lady - Just because you are not a Christian, DOES NOT mean that the Admonitions of The Full Gospel DO NOT apply to YOU...

They APPLY TO EVERY PERSON ON EARTH..regardless of their personal belief systems and current doctrinal affiliations.

You can SAY "i don't believe a Word of any of this."

The Truth is this, "Your DISBELIEF, makes not ONE IOTA of difference to the Reality of The Full Truth of The Gospel regarding the FUTURE OF YOUR SOUL !!"

God cannot LIE....nor do i...and JESUS Revealed The FULL TRUTH for everyone.

The best advice i can give you is this : "BELIEVE IN HIM and BELIEVE HIM and All will Change in your own life, after you Repent"....that's it....

NB : My use of capital letters, font sizes and colours are merely for EMPHASIS - i am NOT shouting..sorry if anyone thought that i was - this was a wrong perception.

Romans 8
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

 

[Admiral]

Kilik, is that you?

 

[milesalpha]

Agreed. "The Kentucky Fried Movie" rules. But what does "doubled over" mean?

You will find "Lö-Bräu" on a beer bottle in the episode "The Route Of All Evil" from the short-lived show "Futurama".
Leela, Fry & Bender want to buy some beer in a store but instead decide to brew their own. "Lö-Bräu" is one of the brands available in the store. (Ok, I am a geek.)

It means I could not walk erect, I had to stay bent over because my abdomen hurt so much from laughing. The skit with the newsman watching the couple on the couch at the end just about killed me. Among my other twisted pleasures...
Flesh Gordon
Can I Do It Till I Need Glasses (some guy named Robin Williams' first movie)(and its sister, If You Don't Stop It You'll Go Blind)
Fritz the Cat
Tunnelvision
Playboy Party Jokes (surprisingly funny)
And lately, the Trailer Park Boys, I just don't know why. Maybe because I live so close to Halifax.

 

[The_Fire]

Hi Odin - thank you - for a change a sensible and relevant question with some depth and honour instead of being defaming..

Also, PLEASE note for the record that this post was Odin's having reached the number 777 - as stated before, there are NO coincidences.

Still not evidence. And no, that post count was not a coincidence. It stems from Odin having posted 776 times before.

It IS a difficult question.

First off, The Bible DOES contain Prophecies of future events, the word "if" is not even a factor for consideration.

Something which you have still failed to provide evidence for.

Having personally experienced accurate dreams and visions and multiple so called "de ja vus" off the Richter Scale of probability, since 1974, all i can say is this:-

Dejavu is merely the brains reaction to a chemical imbalance. It "hiccups". This is still not evidence.

Prophet in Hebrew translates as Poet by some definitions.

The Original language of all the earth BEFORE The Tower of Babel WAS Hebrew.

Provide evidence that the Tower of Babel ever existed. Provide that it was hebrew and not, say, ancient egyptian which were the original language.

This language passed on through Babel to the family group of Abram - later to be renamed Abraham.

Provide evidence that Abraham ever existed.

Therefore the word "poet" has relevance.

Prove this connection.

Do we take Bible Prophecies LITERALLY...

That was not was Odin asked. He asked wether or not you could take the bible literal if the bible verses were merely a cover for prophecy.

First, what is LITERAL ?

Get a dictionary.

For example, The Prophecies of The Lord JESUS Christ were both direct and literal AND some Deeper Ones were "hidden" within the body of the text in Psalms (for example)...

Either it is literal or not. You can't have both. And the biblecodes have already been debunked. I would also at this point restate: This is not evidence of a paranormal event.

A very good LITERAL One is now cited for an example :-

Mark 13
1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

TRANSLATION : In AD 70, 33.5 years AFTER The Lord Ascended, there was a Jewish revolt against the Roman occupation of Jerusalem. It erupted with such severity that, during the course of suppressing it, the Roman soldiers DESTROYED the very Temple referred to above in Mark 13 : 1

Provide evidence that the passage was not written at the time of the revolt as a coded message one christian to the other about the revolt. Provide evidence that the bible were written before the event.

In fact, it was SO severe in Destruction that the Romans prised apart every stone and threw them down into the valley nearby.

Provide evidence that the author weren't just pulling a "fishermans story" about the size of the "fish".

Provide evidence that the statement were not simply the propaganda of the time designed to incite rebellion.

All that remains to this day is "The Wailing Wall"

Which is a jewish sacred site. Not christian. Not evidence of a paranormal event.

To get an idea of the size of the Temple that was destroyed take a look at the two pics of the Wailing Wall :-

1) http://hitch.south.cx/Jerusalem%20-%20Wailing%20Wall%201%20-%201925.JPG

2) http://www.lightbeaconministries.com/images/yadvashem220026.jpg

Nice. But still not evidence of a paranormal event.

So we can see the LITERAL fulfillment of One Prophecy from JESUS.

No. All we see is the evidence of a war. Possibly incited by the christians of the time in the shape of a rebellion.

Now take a look how Daniel dealt with the EXACT SAME historical event, in the non-literal poetic context. Written around 538 years before JESUS was "Born Again"...

Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Not evidence of a paranormal event. It's not even a good prediction of the things you claim. It's post-diction on your part.

So, here, we have Prophetic Timing - and this takes revelation to translate as follows :

No. Can you spell "coincidence"? Can you spell "Post-diction"? Can you spell "Not evidence of a paranormal event"?

One Translation as follows : The Roman Catholics sought to confirm the date of the Birth of Christ around 525 AD...to do so, they examined Roman history records and finally confirmed the date, this was done by Dionysius Exiguus.

However, later examination discovered that Dionysius Exiguus was off by 4 years because of an error. Hence the real date of the Birth of Christ is 4 BC.

This error has never been corrected, hence the incorrect date - even to this very day, based on the chronology from the Birth of Christ (There may be another 10 years missing in the calendar also).

However, JESUS was 12 years old when His EXCEPTIONAL Wisdom was finally made public, and the age of 12 is a special time also - beginning of adult male maturity.

Which the authors of your little fable called the bible KNEW. Not evidence of anything except they knew the laws of the times. Not evidence of a paranormal event.

Luke 2
40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.

46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. 47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

Not evidence of a paranormal event. If anything, it can be called the evidence of an imaginative 12 year old.

Why all this detail herein?

It's called "building a fictional character".

Back to Daniel : (this is NOT the only Translation and Observation, but IS relevant to the actual DATE of the destruction of the Temple)

"And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off"

Taking only the number 62 (threescore and two) and adding to the age of the first recorded statement of Christ at 12 years old (IN THE TEMPLE), we arrive at the number 74 - LESS the missing 4 years, we come to AD 70.

There is another, far deeper and much grander Translation of Daniel's "Time Frame".

It is universally agreed that The LORD God (The Holy Father of JESUS) STOPPED Speaking to the Jewish people in the days of Malachi - the last Old Testament Prophet, 400 BC.

A more precise date being 396 BC :- so, using the above Prophecy from Daniel, we take 62 weeks and turn that into years by multiplying by 7.

Then we get a more Relevant Daniel Date of 434 years. (Daniel's Visions ARE to the end of Time).

Add 434 years to the Time that God STOPPED Speaking to the Jewish people, and we arrive at the exact Year of The Crucifixion of Christ.

Hence a Second Depth to this Prophecy :- "shall Messiah be cut off"

The people of the prince that shall come - WERE The Roman soldiers, and this prince was INDEED Titus

Post-diction. Clap trap. Not evidence of a paranormal event.

Read the history of this event here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Jerusalem

Wikipedia is not evidence either. It have been known to be historical and scientifically incorrect before which is why some teachers I know despair when the students use it as a reference point.

CONCLUSION :-

Biblical Prophecy can be both literal and DEEP - requiring Translation in the Light of Proven History.

Conclusion: You still haven't provided evidence of a paranormal event nor have you fulfilled even the most rudementary demands of the JREF challenge. You have also spend a lot of unnessesary words on answering Odins question.

(In fact there a multiple layers and depths to The Word of God : Here are SEVEN Levels : Personally Convicting, Historical, Revelationary, Educational, Prophetic, Commanding, Poetic - ALL under The Keyword of TRUTH..and this is The Holy Gospel - The Perfect Truth of God - Amen)

According to whom? Where are your evidence that the bible is not
a: Fantasy?
b: A lie inspired by your own Devil?
c: Written by intervention of your God?
d: Not an account of events happening at the time of the authors?

Who can do such Translation? - This is The Choice of God in those He Anoints with "Gifting"..there have been and still are MANY...

Riiight....Have you been taking your meds lately? Usually when people hear voices they are in need of a brain-reset.

How can we determine who has such Gifting?

Deuteronomy 13
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Not evidence of a paranormal event. Could also be an explanation of mental illness. It would not be the first or last time that the local village looney were taken as a "holy" (wo)man or possed by spirits either because they were insane or high on something.

On a personal note, i can truly confess to NOT being infallible; nevertheless, that which i KNOW i do indeed Know - God is a Spirit in Seven.

So where are your evidence that you are right?

Did i SEEK to have this gift? NO..it was "bestowed" for The Grand Purpose of The LORD of ALL.

Meds are a nice thing. you should try them.

The first written prophecy (for me) was in 1974 and came in the form of a piece of poetry. The main theme of the poem became an historical event of some magnitude about 6 weeks LATER...

Not evidence of a paranormal event. Post-diction.

Needless to say, at the tender age of 18 this was a MAJOR EVENT and indeed changed the entire course and direction of my own life...

Go se a doc. Preferably a mental health professional.

So much so, it was DIRECTLY responsible for me being here now typing in this forum of "critique".

Oh wow, it only took you, what? 32 years to get here? And if you are THAT good, then how come noone's heard of you? The Vatican would be crawling all over you by now.

Why do i bother?

Out of Love and Revelation...Hoping that some reading herein "May See The Light" and renounce their sin and falsehood and GET SAVED...

As this IS The Final Commandment of Christ Who is GOD for all of us down here...The Final Judge....

The Son INHERITED ALL POWER and AUTHORITY from The Father...

Yeah right. So far you've used your BullyGods threats of eternal torment etc. and displayed enough arrogance and pride to reach the moon.
Next thing you are going to say that you ARE the second coming of your christ.

Hope you understand.

I understand allright: I understand you need to get on some meds and start living outside your own head.

Also, for the Danish lady - Just because you are not a Christian, DOES NOT mean that the Admonitions of The Full Gospel DO NOT apply to YOU...

Yes it does. Your pantheon have no claim on my soul.

They APPLY TO EVERY PERSON ON EARTH..regardless of their personal belief systems and current doctrinal affiliations.

Wrong. Ever heard of the "Other people"? The ones which apparently existed the same time as this "Eden" you are so proud of? I'm one of them.

You can SAY "i don't believe a Word of any of this."

The Truth is this, "Your DISBELIEF, makes not ONE IOTA of difference to the Reality of The Full Truth of The Gospel regarding the FUTURE OF YOUR SOUL !!"

Evidence?

God cannot LIE....nor do i...and JESUS Revealed The FULL TRUTH for everyone.

Wrong. Your God can very well lie. After all, he can just prevent evidence of the contrary to surface, can't he?

The best advice i can give you is this : "BELIEVE IN HIM and BELIEVE HIM and All will Change in your own life, after you Repent"....that's it....

Advice not wanted and rejected. Evidence supporting the existance of your God would have been nicer.

NB : My use of capital letters, font sizes and colours are merely for EMPHASIS - i am NOT shouting..sorry if anyone thought that i was - this was a wrong perception.

Yes you are. It's called "NEttiquette" (BTW: Beady, sorry about that thing with the post. It's an automatic reaction I've got when dealing with this moron.).

Romans 8
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Good. I don't live to pleasure your God. I think I already said I don't do BJ's on foreign Deities and PEople. This include other sex-things as well. Particulary not when the Deity in question is a known pervert, bully, warcriminal and all-around-liar.

 

[timokay]

On a personal note, i can truly confess to NOT being infallible; nevertheless, that which i KNOW i do indeed Know - God is a Spirit in Seven.

Did i SEEK to have this gift? NO..it was "bestowed" for The Grand Purpose of The LORD of ALL.

So.... you are not NOT fallible, or is it that you are NOT IN-fallible? Or are you able to NOT FAIL? Or NOT-NOT FAIL?
I am confunfused. Or, that is, I am NOT un-fused.

OH WAIT! You are IN-Genius!

 

[Elijah777]

The Evidence Is All Around You

Still not evidence. And no, that post count was not a coincidence. It stems from Odin having posted 776 times before.

Wikipedia is not evidence either.

Provide evidence that the Tower of Babel ever existed. Provide that it was hebrew and not, say, ancient egyptian which were the original language.

Provide evidence that Abraham ever existed.

Evidence, evidence, my kingdom for some EVIDENCE, she cries...

Considering this carefully, in the light of your last comments, perhaps the person who might consider some medication is indeed yourself.

History IS Evidence.

The Writings of The Holy Bible ARE Evidence.

The problem you are having stems NOT from the lack of Supply of Evidence.

It centres ENTIRELY around one thing only - DISBELIEF..

You just don't BELIEVE The Evidence...

Yours (and others) DISBELIEF has no effect on the EVIDENCE...

The Evidence remains...

NB : Incontrovertible "Evidence" will be posted when the Prophetic Second has Ticked..It WAS Supplied in 2004 AFTER the First level of The Claim was rejected...It is ready to be Viewed in this Forum....

Hold your breath....

Hopefully, one day, your DISBELIEF will be the thing that vanishes...

"In Fact we are Praying for that day soon In The Mighty and Holy Name of The Lord JESUS Christ unto The Father, God, the Creator of your very existence....."

Don't waste this life given unto you - PLEASE...

Amen

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen.

 

[steenkh]

Kilik, is that you?

Can't be. There has been no mention of Atlantis yet!

 

[steenkh]

History IS Evidence.
No problem with that.

The Writings of The Holy Bible ARE Evidence.
Of what???? There have not been a single prediction in what you have presented until now. Only postdictions that anybody could have made up from Monty Python quotes.

Show us a prediction, and come back when it has been fulfilled. The we will take you seriously.

 

[Just Me]

5 points to the person willing to track down the web page these prophecies were copied and pasted from.

I'm willing to track it down, if the money is right. Do I get 5 points?

 

[Elijah777]

Legal Advice

For the record..my Christian lawyer CONFIRMS :-

Cannot prosecute Randi in our local jurisdiction. Case MUST be filed in FLORIDA...

Okay - so be it...

C h e c k i n g >>>>>>>


BTW : What is this POST-DICTION thing anyway...

Post means AFTER, in this Case AFTER THE EVENT in History.

Diction is the written or verbal details.

So, of COURSE we need postdiction...

How else can a Fulfilled Prophecy be EXPLAINED and TRANSLATED and DETAILED???

Wakey wakey - POSTDICTION is the Name of This Game...

The flippant use of postdiction IS hereby officially REJECTED as grounds for Rejection and Skeptism.

Without POSTDICTION the Agreed Criteria for this particular "Paranormal Claim" is IMPOSSIBLE to satisfy....

Also a Ground for winning in Court LEGALLY...

i now LOVE the word PostDiction - Amen

EXCELLENT....

Time and Space Collide in NOW...

Amen

Revelation 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

 

[The_Fire]

Evidence, evidence, my kingdom for some EVIDENCE, she cries...

Which you have failed to provide. You don't have any.

Considering this carefully, in the light of your last comments, perhaps the person who might consider some medication is indeed yourself.

awww...Did I hit a nerve?

History IS Evidence.

History can also be documented. The existance of your God can't.

The Writings of The Holy Bible ARE Evidence.

No. The "holy" bible of yours is merely words. History tends to leave behind more. Such as dead bodies, archaeological evidence etc. Things which can actually be tested.

The problem you are having stems NOT from the lack of Supply of Evidence.

But it's not really my problem, is it? It's yours. You are making a claim, not me. And without supporting evidence, a claim is merely a brainfart.

It centres ENTIRELY around one thing only - DISBELIEF..

....In your evidenceless claim.

You just don't BELIEVE The Evidence...

Because you haven't presented any.

Yours (and others) DISBELIEF has no effect on the EVIDENCE...

IF such existed, then I would not disbelief it. You have, however, NOTpresented any evidence.

The Evidence remains...

In your mind perhaps. You have certainly NOT provided any here.

NB : Incontrovertible "Evidence" will be posted when the Prophetic Second has Ticked..It WAS Supplied in 2004 AFTER the First level of The Claim was rejected...It is ready to be Viewed in this Forum....

And here lies the crux of YOUR problem; Your Claim were rejected as it did not provide any evidence of it's validity. And if your evidence are ready to be posted, why haven't you done so yet?

Hold your breath....

No.

Hopefully, one day, your DISBELIEF will be the thing that vanishes...

Right.......Where are your evidence?

"In Fact we are Praying for that day soon In The Mighty and Holy Name of The Lord JESUS Christ unto The Father, God, the Creator of your very existence....."

And I'm asking the Lady for you to get some common sense.

Don't waste this life given unto you - PLEASE...

I'm not. But it's looking like you are.

Amen

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen.

Good that I have faith then. In MY Deities. Not yours.


ETA: effing codes....

 

[The_Fire]

For the record..my Christian lawyer CONFIRMS :-

Cannot prosecute Randi in our local jurisdiction. Case MUST be filed in FLORIDA...

Then have your lawyer post a claim though the american system. That IS possible AFAIK.
Or could it be that your Lawyer saw the futility of your claim and doesn't want to be associated with it?

Okay - so be it...

C h e c k i n g >>>>>>>


BTW : What is this POST-DICTION thing anyway...

Post means AFTER, in this Case AFTER THE EVENT in History.
Diction is the written or verbal details.

So, of COURSE we need postdiction...

Wrong. Post-Diction: To warp the written word to make up a claim of making a prediction AFTER the fact alledgedly predicted.

How else can a Fulfilled Prophecy be EXPLAINED and TRANSLATED and DETAILED???

That does not a paranormal event make.

Wakey wakey - POSTDICTION is the Name of This Game...

No wonder your claim were rejected.

The flippant use of postdiction IS hereby officially REJECTED as grounds for Rejection and Skeptism.

By you. Too bad the rest of society doesn't play by your rules. The rest of society seems to want a little something called "Evidence of a paranormal Event".

Without POSTDICTION the Agreed Criteria for this particular "Paranormal Claim" is IMPOSSIBLE to satisfy....

Wrong. Make a PRE-diction AHEAD of an event. File it BEFORE the event. IF it happens as YOU predicted, then it would be....brace yourself....a paranormal event.

Also a Ground for winning in Court LEGALLY...

i now LOVE the word PostDiction - Amen

Another reason why you will be laughed out of court.

EXCELLENT....

Time and Space Collide in NOW...

Then I would be carefull not getting in the way. Time/Space-eddies are nasty little things.

Amen

Revelation 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Still not evidence of a paranormal event.

 

[The_Fire]

I'm willing to track it down, if the money is right. Do I get 5 points?

You get 5 points from me as well.

 

[The_Fire]

Can't be. There has been no mention of Atlantis yet!

If this were about Homeopathy, I could swear it was the Mas-collective.

 

[Mojo]

Hi Odin - thank you - for a change a sensible and relevant question with some depth and honour instead of being defaming..

Also, PLEASE note for the record that this post was Odin's having reached the number 777 - as stated before, there are NO coincidences.

Actually, it wasn't the post with which Odin reached number 777. As of now, Odin has posted 777 times, and has made ten further posts since that one. So it was in fact Odin's post number 767. Don't despair, though; I'm sure you'll be able to retrofit something to that as well.

Meanwhile, would you care to address this post of Odin's, his post number 777 and thus clearly addressed to you if, as you claim, "there are NO coincidences":

I would hate to be the one who kills this thread.

 

[Mojo]

Revelation 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;[/B]

Here's your problem: your "predicitons" are not of things that will "shortly come to pass"; they are consistently of things that have already come to pass.