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How to Analyze Cryptid Assertions

Ah, I didn't know you'd resurfaced, NL. Welcome back. You've a little explaining to do in one or two other threads, which I am sure we all look forward to. But to return to this post of yours......

What has moving slow/er/ly got to do with flying or not?

I'm never going to be more than an occasional poster, so we'll see if I get around to the other items for me.

Regarding your question, someone posted a video of an owl and asked how that would look in a thermal. I said the image I saw was moving slowly, so it couldn't be an owl, or anything else that would be flying. Maybe I misinterpreted the question.
 
Deception is such slippery business.

Let's just zero in on one little lie here:

After I posted the link, someone asked if the recording had been analyzed by a wolf expert and I replied that "I" didn't know of one, in which someone promptly provided me with a name. Meche or something like that. During this time, I reached out to one of the owners and asked him if the recordings had been analyzed by a wolf expert and he told me that they had and the expert indicated they didn't sound like wolf, but since nothing else in the woods would make a similar call, it must be a wolf. Just didn't sound like one.

lol. The response he gave was this:

not per sae (sic) In other words, no - not a wolf expert when we use the English language honestly.

This is what you were told, which you changed fundamentally:

Not per-sae. The problem here is that whenever we've bounced anything off wolf "experts" in the past they typically say "that's odd, but it must be a wolf as there is nothing else." So I ask if it is atypical for wolves and they say "Yes, but it is likely a wolf." The real question is how much can one trust a "wolf expert's" opinion, especially if they study wolves in squatch zones and assume any howl heard is a wolf, no matter how strange.

We just established no wolf expert has looked, no - but now we have the new term "Wolf Expert" in quotes, which means someone pretending to be one. Allegedly. This is a BLAARGing role at best: a fantasy role someone assumes when playing Bigfoot Live Action Alternate reality Gaming, and one that is useful for bigfoot propaganda not anything truthful. More likely it is just imaginary twaddle.

You submitted mere hearsay about someone pretending to be wolf expert, spoken of derisively by the source, and changed that into telling us it was a real one.

I suppose our detective made an error liars are pretty good at setting a trap for: if you spill 95% lies and the detective says you lied about everything then you come out and beat him with the 5% truth. So there was an email you lied about, specifically changing a pretend wolf expert to a real one. The part about asking, okay that much can be true with the entire thing a lie in content.

It's good enough for me to just say you are lying. My take on this again is that it is BLAARGing - the lying is a game you are playing that is necessary by tautology: Alternate Reality Gaming is where we deny it is a game.

So an overnight car camping trip is an "expedition". Someone without any experience with wolves whatsoever is a "wolf expert".

Hey - I am taking a snow machine expedition shortly. Going to break trail to a wilderness cabin, got to build a little temporary bridge in one spot and make it passable for an Alaska girl with a three year old and pulling her sled with supplies. This will be the first time taking the kids a significant distance into the wilderness, and they're going to love it.

I'm getting old so I am going in first with my little mechanic buddy, aged 18 with his crotch-rocket death machine. These kids, sheesh. You don't need to do 150 mph on snow machines. But anyway going out with two machines is safety in case someone breaks down. He doesn't know where this cabin is so I am trading wilderness knowledge for his accompanying me and help on the snow bridge. It's going to be two full days of work just breaking trail and building the bridge. I want the wife to be able to make it in one long day, no problems. Pedestrian, by our standards so long as things go right, but within our capacity to hike out if we have to. Both of us have been on the Nordic Track getting in shape for this in addition to the lumberjacking I am doing.

I been stuck out there more than once. Went in the river twice, once on snow machine and once on skiis. Had the right gear to survive thank God, but I think I have a right to call this an expedition.

I mention it because there is a black phase wolf pack out there I used to see a lot from the air, and I have heard them too. You turn off your machine, sit for a while in the darkness (but it is pretty bright with the moon, stars, and pristine snow) and hear those wolves it's pretty damned spooky.

I can't guarantee that or even expect it staying maybe four nights out there. You just keep going out and doing the wilderness thing and **** happens that is a once in a lifetime experience. Alaska is a place where those once in a lifetime experiences happen only every six months or so. lol.

So the way to analyze my assertions on this is that I will take a camera and it will be irrefutable that what I am saying right now is literally true in the plain English meaning of the words I am using. I even got a picture of the snow machine that went under. I came in for it by boat the next summer. That is why I am bridging over the god damned river. lol.
 
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We have numerous recordings of wolf vocalizations that can be positively attributed to, well, wolves. Even odd vocalizations.

We have zero (0) bigfoot vocalizations that can be positively attributed to footie. We have zero anything that can be positively attributed to ole foo.

The reason footers concentrate on ambiguous nonsense like vocalizations is the same reason ghost hunters bumble around in the dark with EMF meters: they can, and do, make up any **** they like about their findings/readings/ recordings.

You don't need a wolf expert, you need bigfoot evidence; so far, footery doesn't have diddly.
 
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First, I would like to thank you for your service. You have my ultimate respect and undying appreciation.

Second, would you agree that in your professional capacity in law enforcement, there would be degrees in which someone would try and prove they were right based upon what they would have to lose? For example, if you were questioning someone in the line of duty, they would have a lot more to lose than I would as a simple participant in an internet forum? So my effort would be significantly less than someone you would be dealing with in your line of work.

As such, I did put in a "little" effort to look up my email on this topic and was able to find it. Here it is:



So again, I'm not lying.

NL

LOL @ that email! I love that "wolf expert" is now the common title. "Lance Lane: Wolf Expert!" For the record, I've nothing against you, NL, but most of what you say here is pure dream-chatter.
 
Note that none of this is prefaced by: "I'd show you but my camera broke", or "Billy Bob took photos, but I don't want to trouble him to email me", or "I swear that ice was solid, I wonder if Bigfoot jumped on it to crack it before I went over"

I been stuck out there more than once. Went in the river twice, once on snow machine and once on skiis. Had the right gear to survive thank God, but I think I have a right to call this an expedition.

I mention it because there is a black phase wolf pack out there I used to see a lot from the air, and I have heard them too. You turn off your machine, sit for a while in the darkness (but it is pretty bright with the moon, stars, and pristine snow) and hear those wolves it's pretty damned spooky.

I can't guarantee that or even expect it staying maybe four nights out there. You just keep going out and doing the wilderness thing and **** happens that is a once in a lifetime experience. Alaska is a place where those once in a lifetime experiences happen only every six months or so. lol.

So the way to analyze my assertions on this is that I will take a camera and it will be irrefutable that what I am saying right now is literally true in the plain English meaning of the words I am using. I even got a picture of the snow machine that went under. I came in for it by boat the next summer. That is why I am bridging over the god damned river. lol.
 
We have numerous recordings of wolf vocalizations that can be positively attributed to, well, wolves. Even odd vocalizations.

We have zero (0) bigfoot vocalizations that can be positively attributed to footie. We have zero anything that can be positively attributed to ole foo.

The reason footers concentrate on ambiguous nonsense like vocalizations is the same reason ghost hunters bumble around in the dark with EMF meters: they can, and do, make up any **** they like about their findings/readings/ recordings.

You don't need a wolf expert, you need bigfoot evidence; so far, footery doesn't have diddly.
The recording that Northern Lights presented wasn't a wolf. Any real wolf scientist or "wolf expert" would say that it doesn't sound anything like a wolf.

It's a guy trying to sound like a Bigfoot. It was never meant to sound like a wolf. It's a Bigfoot hoax recorded on audio.

This is just another instance where NL plays a joke on the skeptics, and they do take the bait. It's a win-win situation for the Bigfoot promoter.

Any wolf scientist who hears the audio will say that it doesn't sound like any wolf that have ever heard. Then they say that they have no clue what creature is making that sound. Well, when they say that they don't know that it was , they don't know that it was recorded by a Bigfoot believer and that the sound may have been created by a person trying to make Bigfoot sounds.

Wolf scientists and "wolf experts" don't live their lives with the anticipation that there are Bigfoot hoaxers out there in the world!
 
I feel a little foolish, but we went out, all of us, to the first little trail event, 11 miles out which is just crossing the main river. We have to get up on a high bank, its only like six feet, no big deal for a guy - you use a grain shovel and pack a ramp up it, and then you're just clearing trail for the next ten miles or so to the next river crossing. We were going to just do this one little job as a family and come back for the night. The ramp will freeze overnight and a lady with a kid can run right up it no problem.

But the river is open on the far bank. So Dad went over and the moose are making it through, foxes turning back, which is kind of a depth indicator. You can hydroplane across if it is in the middle of the river. But it is on the bank where we need to build the ramp. So the next two days is a dog mushing race, they're using the first four miles of our trail, people with vests on and teams being timed, spectators watching.

I know a way in, longer, across a bunch of beaver ponds, kind of a pain in the rear but bullet-proof for no open water. Kind of ironic you add over a mile distance to get a hundred yards. But our plan was to come back if this crossing wasn't available and the next two days we don't want to be using the racing trail. Two different races going on.

This is the race:

https://www.facebook.com/TwoRiversDogMushers

Maybe a kind of "dog ate my homework" moment, ironic, but even there you can make proof of your assertions. These people are running wild for the next couple of days and we're waiting them out.

Before I had kids this wouldn't have slowed me down.

I'd have sunk the machine. lol. I've done it before and have pictures. No risk too great! Bring it on, yeah!

But not with kids.
 
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Never say die. So this is a lesson in analyzing cryptid assertions, by example. Specifically this word expedition. What does it mean to use that term if you aren't lying?

I went out alone tonight, good moon, and thought those mushers wouldn't be on that section of trail. I heard they were way up river, it's a hundred mile race, but I did see one when I got near home. They're marking their trail and I'm only using about 4 miles of it.

When you are out miles from roads, and this is not exaggerating one iota, the first thing is lists. Lists of tools. Lists of survival equipment. Checklists on your machine's equipment, emergency gear, spare belts, plugs, baling wire & rope, etc. But you got to be light and sleek. So for example tools, this is mainly just the box wrenches which I always double-check:

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This is one of the requirements if you are not lying about the word expedition. That word has the connotation you are out where you have to rely on yourself, not call AAA for a jump. No cell phones, lol we don't even get reception at home.

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Another condition: the elements. It's five below zero, pretty pedestrian. That means fifteen below zero on the river where I worked tonight. Expedition means fighting the elements.

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That means you need pro gear - these are beaver fur mitts and hat, you can't do better than that. I'm a hillbilly, but my survival gear is top flight. Apocalypse Design made our parkas and snowmachine suits. Google them. My wife's is newer, a thousand bucks, expedition weight - the term Apocalypse Design uses for... expeditions. Real ones.

I'm just zipping out for trail work for a couple more days - same rule on sleek, lightweight, but bring what you need to make trails. Expeditions are events where you have to cut trail, not stroll on manicured parkways a golf cart can navigate.

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Axe, grain shovel, and chain saw. I used all of them making the ramp up the bank tonight and clearing a bit of trail beyond. I stepped through once. It was a little spooky listening to the water gurgling underneath but I built the ramp out to where there's really thick ice so the wife and kids can get up no problem.

Two more river crossings beyond to do and garden variety trail clearing in-between. That's just tedium, nothing challenging. Then we can drag sleds in with steaks. You bring in heavily insulated coolers stuffed with fresh vegetables (to keep from freezing), do this monster stir fry on top of the wood stove in a huge iron pan one night, steaks anther. A lot of hot peppers. Pancakes in the mornings, eggs bacon, cheese. Chop through the ice for water.

So expedition means there isn't like a 7-11 five minutes away by car, you know? But food is one thing I love to pack, and doing up a lot of food in that tiny little cabin is going to be a lot of fun.

The last bona fide gold miner at this cabin passed away, but I talked to him when he was in his 90's because I staked a prospecting site there and he was the last recorded miner. He took a little 'dozer in, skidded freight on the trail I am now working on. There's gold but it is a tiny little high creek and the logistics are murder.

That's the point of going here, though. I can see nobody's been in for years. At least five, probably more.

I'm getting old. It would not have worried me 30 years ago, just being 12 miles out, let lone 40. Moments of triumph, moments of terror. Mostly just enduring. Camera froze probably a mile from the cabin, but it was really beautiful out there. We'll have the cabin warmed up out there so we can take pictures.

I got these kids really weighing on my mind, God. The way I would have done this 30 years ago would have qualified as an expedition. What I am doing now is trying to remove every fail point in stages, get this whole operation down to a pedestrian stroll for the wife and two kids. A lot more work involved than me alone, but the trip itself is in theory a lot easier than having to hack your way in all at once.

I was on my way back, drove a couple miles, feeling like the cat that ate the canary and the engine died. So there it is: are you walking home? Now you are out on a limb and you better be able to make it. I can handle my end and the wife is doing six miles a day on the treadmill so she's going to be no problem. I'm lumberjacking mostly and if I am not doing that I like to just do three miles on maximum incline for aerobics. But the engine dies - so you check spark, then fuel. It's fuel. So what is it. Maybe ice in the line? Good guess. But I'd still be out there now walking if it turned out to be something I couldn't fix.

An expedition has this connotation see: that there is some physical conditioning standard, I mean you aren't walking from your car door to your fold-a-chair. Just driving one of these machines in this terrain long distances requires athletic conditioning. But there's always that risk of a marathon walk out, literal definition, under subarctic conditions.

Look at those mushers out there, a hundred miles on a dogsled. That's bona fide. They're dealing with open water, it had been so warm until last night. One day can change everything from open water to ice, or to overflow, hidden under the snow. I got into some overflow tonight but not bad.

Not knowing though - what you're up against. That's what it is like for an expedition. Being ready for any of it. This word expedition as used by a 'footer is a lie meaning Bigfoot Live Action Alternate Reality Gaming, not someone who is actually doing one.
 
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ABP, have you ever thought of applying to be on "The Alaska Bush People" reality TV show? It seems to me you would be a fabulous choice rather the Browns.
 
I want to know what kind of crazy-ass Bloody Mary that is next to the banana basket.
 
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I made it in last night, sort of. But I want to prove up on what is probably the most exceptional claim I have made about this expedition, yes - I am going to use that word at this point.

Where I ended up last night is where I sunk this snowmachine over two decades ago. I got it out with a friend the next July. It went down at the far bank where it's pretty deep, and you can judge by the bank relative to my height what kind of ramps I have to build for the wife and kids.

I had to cheat the last 6 miles or so because when it is colder than thirty below zero the chain saw stops working. So I made probably a bad decision and took the watercourse, just hell bent on making it in. There are still big trees down, but you have a lot more room to go around or choices of where to jump them. But what you have to do is hydroplane across the open water, and the risk is what you see here.

When the snow is too dry, too deep, and not enough time has elapsed since you drove over it with your snow machine then you can't walk on it. What I mean by that is in driving over it, you pack a trail. After it freezes you can walk on top of it instead of having to slog through waist deep show or whatever.

So on this trip where I sank the snowmachine it was like record snow depth, but still open water in places. As a young man of course I just skipped on the open water, rah rah bring it on. I was on a thin patch of ice though, going slow, and it broke out under me. I had the reaction speed to step on the rear basket and up onto the solid ice on the side of me as it was going down and didn't get a drop of water on me.

Just like on my machine now as you saw I had my gear in the basket, and I caught a glimpse of the water pushing the whole rig with my precious gear disappearing under the ice, going downriver. There was an instant of silence as this realization gripped me, and then I started screaming. I was screaming like I had never done before at how stupid I was, how reckless, and what a pain hiking out was going to be.

Little did I know. I tried to hike on top of my track, and I couldn't. The only decent place to walk was on the open water, lol. So I ended up crawling. Yes, on my forearms and shins, to stay on top of the track. I probably did 12 miles like that, on through the rest of that day, all through the night, and until the next morning, unbeknownst to me followed by a wolf.

Looking back now, it makes sense that they would have heard me going up the river, heard the machine die, and heard me screaming. A wolf is smart enough to figure that out. But they are built with paws that keep them on top of the snow whereas for me at the very worst spots I couldn't even crawl. I had to extend my body full length, and roll along my snowmachine track. I tried to get back on my hands and knees too early and went down in snow over my head at one spot. Like quicksand, I couldn't get back on top. Instead of panicking I patiently waited in stages to kind of make a ramp for myself to get back up. It was by this gigantic root wad that I remembered on my way up, zipping by so carefree on my snow machine. It loomed up ahead, I thought I would never make it there. When I did, it was this quicksand. Then I couldn't get away from it! Yet, amidst this there were moments where I looked up at the scenery around me. It looks so easy in pictures, but this is what you have to do in order to live it. Gah!

Well I finally made the road just before dawn the next day, and when I spilled out onto it I was laying flat on my back, just so grateful to have made it and completely spent. I heard kind of a hacking noise back where I had just come from and looked over to see a black phase wolf looking right at me. You can kind of tell what is going on in an intelligent animal's eyes, and this animal was evaluating me. My condition.

The electricity fired through me, I was up on my feet like a lighting bolt and started immediately singing a song about how fresh I was, and began marching down the road. Those were actually the first steps I had been able to take on solid ground, and yeah it was pretty easy.

I never let on that the last two trips I just did, I was scared. My days of doing this kind of thing are numbered. So nervous that ordinary things like making a cup of tea or cleaning my chain saw - I was screwing everything up. Like I felt before a big fight. One I had good odds of losing. It felt awkward and embarrassing, like I was scrub league.

But in going out last night, as things progressed and are going okay you start to build your confidence that you have things figured out. I made it as far as my chain saw would work, and then you are building little ramps over downed trees or dodging, evading, jumping - stuff I don't want my wife doing. One little crevasse was an issue, I had to fill it up enough to get over, which meant carrying a lot of snow some distance eventually, so I still had to go down with the machine. There's that moment of not knowing whether your ski tips are going to now start going up the other side, or slam into the wall and... down you go. See you in the spring!

That was the last thing I did before clearing trail became completely untenable and I decided to go for the water course and hydroplane where I needed to. I did that twice, meaning any kind of significant distance, but man there was a lot of open water I was skating around, and I called it quits within a mile of the cabin. Really, I was just about there and it shows the difference fear makes. I can't do this to my kids. Coming back, I had made those two leads bigger of course and had to floor it to get across. I had the afterburners on the whole way back to good trail, lol.

I think we're done here. At least until it is well above zero anyway. Truth is, one of my motivations was to show what the real thing is like, not a fake expedition where words mean the opposite of what they say. Kind of a control group in an experiment.

OK, so now the exciting animal report. I saw a grand total of one shrew last night as I was shoveling snow.
 
When you say "ramps" are you talking about laying logs across deep snow? I'm trying to picture what you are talking about. How did you keep from freezing to death 20 years ago?
 

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