How much the mainstream media can be trust?

Investigate / talk about != bash. I'm pretty sure UK posters bring up the horrible state of some of their papers often as well. Perhaps you're projecting?
 
UncaYimmy said:
I've said this before in other threads, but I believe today more than ever we can trust the mainstream media because we have access to so many different sources. Google News searches make it incredibly easy to get the full scoop on an issue. Bikewere referred to the good old days of having two newspapers. Now we have access to hundreds.
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This is misleading as many news sources are simply copies of other news sources. For example the associated press and the washington post may cover a story and then a large number of other news media outlets take the information from them and essentially rewrite the story in their own words with their own personal slant. Further there have been numerous cases in which news is specifically killed, censored or in some way edited to disguise the truth. A classic example is given in The Corporation Film concerning journalists who did an investigative report about Monsanto.
 
Fishstick said:
Investigate / talk about != bash. I'm pretty sure UK posters bring up the horrible state of some of their papers often as well. Perhaps you're projecting?
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Projecting? How does that work?

The OP is talking about "teh mainstream media", as if mainstream media = US media. I don't accept that contention. There is a world outside the US.
 
I don't see where he specifies that the topic is only about US MSM, even though his examples are from US media (probably because it is easiest to find datapoints for). Nothing is stopping you or anyone else from bringing up polls about how the public perceives their local media outlets!
For example, I'd like to know if and how many people tune into the news at night at all. For countries like Belgium and the Netherlands this is really high - people tune into the news at 7 or 8 because that's when most newscasts are done. Each channel's news programs end up competing with one another, rather than trying to outprogram eachother. There's no 24-hour news channels either (unless you have satellite), so maybe that has a big impact as well?
 
Fishstick said:
There's no 24-hour news channels either (unless you have satellite), so maybe that has a big impact as well?
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In Québec we have two continuous news stations, for a population of 7 million. One is federally funded, and the other is privately owned by a big media corporation, and you can tell the editorial decisions are influenced by that.

I wouldn't say they aren't trustworthy, but everyone should be aware of their biases. And it's not just a US phenomenon.
 
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Pardalis said:
And what about Germany? Why don't you guys let the Americans worry about their media and mind your own business and scrutinize your own media?
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Because the media has gone supernational.

For example the largest media company in germany is Bertelsmann. They also own Random House which operates in the US.

Another example is that if you followed the recent event in Ecuador you would have found even the Ecuadorian media were running AFP feeds.

The other issue is that the situation is much the same everwhere in the somewhat free world which the only complicating factor being publicy owned media outlets (the BBC in particular is an outlier) so it doesn't really matter which country you take about.

Churnalism is universal and only getting worse.
 
Pardalis said:
It's "interesting" because it's the easiest one to bash, beacuse it's the one the world over is scrutinizing.

All things considered and comparatively, I'm pretty sure the US media is about as much trutworthy and/or corrupt as all the other national medias in the western world. The only difference is that everyone is focusing on them. If everyone is talking and criticizing always the same country, we get a distorted view of reality.
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The best book I've run across in terms of modern media trends (flat earth news) focuses on the situation in britian. So your concern that everyone is focusing on the US is unmerrited.
 
Bertelsmann, btw, is not only Germany's and Europe's largest media company but, through its foundation, one of the most influential players in neoliberal lobbying of the EU. They played a huge role in the ridiculous "Bologna Process", for example. For german readers, i recommend the following book which was just published last month in a reprint of the second edition:

Jens Wernicke, Torsten Bultmann (Hg.): Netzwerk der Macht - Bertelsmann
 
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No one should trust a word MSM says!!!!!! -- Its all made to steer you down thier path!!!

US MAINSTREAM MEDIA is the worst......
 
Bah, everyone knows you can't trust the MSM for anything. Just read my book : "The 10 Disturbing Truths About the New So-Called 'Horseless-Carriages' THEY Don't Want YOU to Know!", on sale at quality farriers and millineries now.


(in keeping with recent timeliness and all)
 
catsmate said:
AH suspends and bans people for thread necromancy.
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One of my two ecig boards has a too short lock (6 months IIRC) but several years ought to cover most topics.

I feel like we need a Dude version of "what are you doing, step-bro". [emoji1]
 
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