How much did Jesus need to suffer?

[MG1962]

There was a porgam last night on the mechanics of a crucifixtion. Survivabilty was almost directly linked to the whipping you got before being put up. They did mention one intersting thing, of some 10,000 references to crucifixtion from various sources, none ever mentioned the actual steps

The program highlighted the one confirmed crucifixtion ever found. The chaps feet had been nailed, but completely different to how to how we see the image today. A nail was driven through the heels then into the sides of the post, putting the victim in an almost crouching position.

There are reports of people lasting up to 9 days on the cross, but the nom was 6 - 24 hours. This really depended on the soliders on hand. Example breaking persons legs sped the process considerably

His speedy death could simply have been the Roman solider on duty was about to clock off and he didn't want the overtime. Or he was bribed to hasten the death to meet with the needs of the Passover ritual.

 

[Wolrab]

You are all forgetting that Jesus came out of the tomb on the third day, saw his shadow, and there was six more weeks of winter. He also could not walk on water anymore because of the nail holes.

 

[The Atheist]

According to the documentary (which was repeated last night, by the way), the earliest form of what could be considered crucifixion was simply to impale a person on a stake, facing upwards, so that his head and feet dangled on either side. The impalement was done very carefully so the person didn't die right away, but hung there moaning for days while his friends and relatives passed by and learned by example.

That makes the Roman version sound almost humane.

Yeah, but what's even a week of agony compared to an infinite existence with the sky-daddy? A week of crucifixion's a doddle against a googolplex of years, and even then, it's still a long time until eternity.

Jesus - The great pretender.

Am I missing something?

Nope. Seems spot on to me.

 

[kittynh]

I saw that same tv show and thought that a person would go into shock pretty quickly suffering that kind of pain. I can't see how anyone could last an hour before passing out. Some people were supposed to last up to 9 days, but that seems almost impossible to me. Would one not pass out because the head is up?

The whole religious thing is sometimes explained as can't "talk the talk" until you have "walked the walk". Living in a human body is full of wonders, but there are major drawbacks... death (and most deaths are pretty awful) being one of them.

 

[MG1962]

I saw that same tv show and thought that a person would go into shock pretty quickly suffering that kind of pain. I can't see how anyone could last an hour before passing out.

The only thing I can think of is endophins. It was interesting to see what a mess that test subject was after only 15 minutes

Maybe they just bred them tougher back then

 

[six7s]

... most deaths are pretty awful...

Really?

I think that most deaths are rather mundane

 

[MG1962]

Really?

I think that most deaths are rather mundane

I doubt the person dying would agree

 

[six7s]

I doubt the person dying would agree

Sincere question: Based on what evidence?

 

[tsig]

So this guy knows he is the Son of God. He knows he needs to suffer and "die" (afterward getting to spend eternity in paradise) for our sins. So he does it. Who wouldn't do that? He is special for doing something a rapist would do. Christians feel so grateful for our Original Sin being absolved by God when he is the one that gave it to us in the first place.

Makes Christians seem like victims of abuse.

"Yea god I know you beat me up but you took me to the hospital so you must love me right...right..."