How Loony are the Loons?

[RemoveBush]

"You make the claim - or support the claim - that the planes were not AA11 and UA175. Why were they not those flights? What is this based upon?"

No I do not! I make the claim that it is NOT PROVEN that those were the planes. There is no evidence to support that! There is no NTSB data and/or identification of the hundreds of traceable parts on EACH plane.

I make the claim that it is not FACT, that those were the planes. You people want to take something that is not PROVEN and make ASSUMPTIONS that it is FACT.

This is where I say it is not PROVEN. NOTICE, and I know this is difficult for you, that I don't say it is NOT those planes. I say there is not proof that they are the planes in question.

BIG DIFFERNCE!

 

[Arus808]

Just a simple request.

I suggest that people stop responding to this troll until it learns how to use the Quote feature. Right now, its so hard to follow, that its really useless.

That way, for all those involved. IF a descent discussion is to occur, all parties must make it easy to understand what they are responding to.

 

[JonnyFive]

I suggest that people stop responding to this troll until it learns how to use the Quote feature. Right now, its so hard to follow, that its really useless.

You're right.

RemoveBush, please learn to use the quote feature to enable us to more easily follow this debate. If you decide to continue to ignore this easily used function, I can only assume that you are deliberately trying to obfuscate further debate.

 

[apathoid]

When someone says that this is how something happened.... It is up to THEM to provide evidence that this is the case. The government says that these 4 planes were the ones that crashed.

However, 2 of them were not even scheduled to fly and there is NO EVIDENCE of taxi, or gears up (takeoff) of these 2 planes.
Right back at ya, "because you can't"!

Gee doesnt this sound familiar...

What proof do we have, that those planes ever took off on 9/11? I saw something where one of the flights...wasn't even scheduled to fly on 9/11.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

" If they weren't on the planes, you (yes, YOU) have to come up with another explaination and evidence that backs it. You are the one making outlandish accusations, and providing no proof. No one else is obligated to prove this for you."

Wrong again!!! Here let me explain how things work, or did work in America......

When someone says that this is how something happened.... It is up to THEM to provide evidence that this is the case. The government says that these 4 planes were the ones that crashed.

However, 2 of them were not even scheduled to fly and there is NO EVIDENCE of taxi, or gears up (takeoff) of these 2 planes. It is NOT my responsibility to prove that these planse were the planes in question, it is the Governments responsibility. Yes there were people who died, but just because these questions and information has not been provided does not make it FACT!

This is a concept you people forget! FACT is provable! Provide the NTST report identifying the 4 planes! Provide the FAA data showing those planes from the airports takeoff!

Right back at ya, "because you can't"!

It would appear that United disagrees with you

Press release

UNITED AIRLINES PROVIDES FURTHER UPDATE ON UA FLIGHTS 93 AND 175; SENDS FAMILY ASSISTANCE TEAMS TO PA AND NY
Flights Also Carry Code Share Numbers

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CHICAGO, September 11, 2001 (12:55 p.m. CST) - United Airlines has provided the following additional information relating to UA Flights 93 and 175.
Flight UA 93, a single aircraft, also operated as a code-share flight with Air Canada under AC 4085. Flight UA 175, a single aircraft, also operated as a code-share flight with Air New Zealand under NZ 9051.
Earlier today, United confirmed the following details:

• UA 93, a Boeing 757 aircraft, departed from Newark, NJ, at 8:01 local time, bound for San Francisco, with 38 passengers onboard, two pilots, and five flight attendants. This aircraft crashed near Johnstown, PA.
• UA 175, a Boeing 767 aircraft, departed from Boston at 7:58 local time, bound for Los Angeles, with 56 passengers onboard, two pilots, and seven flight attendants. United has confirmed the loss of this aircraft. Last radar contact with the aircraft was between Newark, NJ and Philadelphia, PA.

United is dispatching a team to Johnstown, PA as soon as possible, to assist in every way, with the investigation and to provide assistance, help, and support to family members. Based on information received from the authorities, United is also sending employees to the New York City area to assist, in every way it can, with this tragedy.
"United has mobilized all our resources to work with the authorities, including the FBI and other government agencies. Our thoughts and prayers continue to be with everyone involved, including the passengers and crew members of our airline, as well all their family members and friends," said James E. Goodwin, United's CEO.
Friends or family members who want more information about UA 93 or UA 175, should contact 1.800.932. 8555 or 0845 8444 777. United also will post any information it has on its website www.united.com

http://www.united.com.ar/press/pressroom/2001/us_0911d.html

 

[RemoveBush]

"Wearing a railroad hat, blowing a wooden wistle and going "Look at me, I'm a train on a track, I'm a train, I'm a train, I'm a chucka train, woo woo!" does not make one an engineer."

Case in point!! So what prey tell makes YOU an expert?

Please ENLIGHTEN us oh wise one!

 

[Pardalis]

I suggest that people stop responding to this troll until it learns how to use the Quote feature. Right now, its so hard to follow, that its really useless.

I beg to differ:

Thanks Arkan, I just remembered I need to do a wash today.

This thread proved to be useful after all.

 

[JonnyFive]

(words)

I'm sorry, I only see a big block of garbage format text. If you'd like a response, you'll just have to properly format your quotes.

As it stands, it's just illegible.

 

[Arus808]

"Wearing a railroad hat, blowing a wooden wistle and going "Look at me, I'm a train on a track, I'm a train, I'm a train, I'm a chucka train, woo woo!" does not make one an engineer."

Case in point!! So what prey tell makes YOU an expert?

Please ENLIGHTEN us oh wise one!

Last request, RemoveBush, YOu have 79 posts, so you should know what this button is:

Please learn to use it

Again, I ask that those responding, to stop until he learns how to use that button.

 

[HyJinX]

"Wearing a railroad hat, blowing a wooden wistle and going "Look at me, I'm a train on a track, I'm a train, I'm a train, I'm a chucka train, woo woo!" does not make one an engineer."

Case in point!! So what prey tell makes YOU an expert?

Please ENLIGHTEN us oh wise one!

Who are you talking to?

 

[babazaroni]

"Wearing a railroad hat, blowing a wooden wistle and going "Look at me, I'm a train on a track, I'm a train, I'm a train, I'm a chucka train, woo woo!" does not make one an engineer."

Please show the source for your quotes.

You want us to respond to your posts, please help us by using the quote function.

 

[apathoid]

Last request, RemoveBush, YOu have 79 posts, so you should know what this button is:

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/helloworld/buttons/quote.gif[/qimg]

Please learn to use it

Again, I ask that those responding, to stop until he learns how to use that button.

He knows how to use it, but he's posting incognito and he's under the impression that not quoting is helping his disguise.....

 

[RemoveBush]

"RemoveBush,

Am I correct in assuming that since you have opted not to respond to my critiques of your claims of "vaporization" of the towers, and the freefall times, that you concede that you were wrong on those points? A non-answer from you will be taken as a "yes" and we can then move on to other discussion points."

I have no idea what you are refering to... I probably missed it, so repost your question.

 

[Alt+F4]

Again, I ask that those responding, to stop until he learns how to use that button.

Agreed...anyway someone who thinks that hundreds of body parts and thousands of bits of DNA can be faked isn't someone who will ever be logical.

 

[Arus808]

He knows how to use it, but he's posting incognito and he's under the impression that not quoting is helping his disguise.....

fine, if he doesn't want a descent conversation or follow forum nettiquette, then just stop responding to him. I dont believe in rewarding bad behavior

 

[babazaroni]

"RemoveBush,

Am I correct in assuming that since you have opted not to respond to my critiques of your claims of "vaporization" of the towers, and the freefall times, that you concede that you were wrong on those points? A non-answer from you will be taken as a "yes" and we can then move on to other discussion points."

I have no idea what you are refering to... I probably missed it, so repost your question.

We are not sure what you are talking about.

Please use the quote function.

If you had used the quote function, we could have traced that quote back.

 

[Arus808]

"RemoveBush,

Am I correct in assuming that since you have opted not to respond to my critiques of your claims of "vaporization" of the towers, and the freefall times, that you concede that you were wrong on those points? A non-answer from you will be taken as a "yes" and we can then move on to other discussion points."

I have no idea what you are refering to... I probably missed it, so repost your question.

RemoveBush, YOu have 80 posts, so you should know what this button is:

Please learn to use it

 

[defaultdotxbe]

"nd 28K. 28K was forced to morph into RB."

I have no IDEA what your talking about with 28K!

I have NEVER been here before and only came here because someone posted my article here and MORONS were making comments like "ordinary folks" when the ARTICLE was clearly a reply to and written to the US GOVERNMENT!

Think what ever you want, but I did not know of this place before then. PERIOD!

you have to realize that when you conspiradroids come here spouting the same tired of CT garbage all the time you all start to sound alike

 

[HeyLeroy]

"RemoveBush,

Am I correct in assuming that since you have opted not to respond to my critiques of your claims of "vaporization" of the towers, and the freefall times, that you concede that you were wrong on those points? A non-answer from you will be taken as a "yes" and we can then move on to other discussion points."

I have no idea what you are refering to... I probably missed it, so repost your question.

To whom are you speaking?

By refusing to use the quote and/or multi-quote function you are purposely acting like an obtuse ass and a troll.

Do your own damn homework.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

"RemoveBush,

Am I correct in assuming that since you have opted not to respond to my critiques of your claims of "vaporization" of the towers, and the freefall times, that you concede that you were wrong on those points? A non-answer from you will be taken as a "yes" and we can then move on to other discussion points."

I have no idea what you are refering to... I probably missed it, so repost your question.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2207994#post2207994
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2208068#post2208068