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Ed How do you Feel about this?

lionking said:
Dingogirl, how do you feel about "Blacktown"?
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I think it is a dump.

I used to be at HMAS Nirimba, way back when I was in the navy...

And I always just assumed the place was named after someone, rather than because of the skin colour of some former inhabitants.

But if we are to open that can of worms, what about Coonawarra, Blackwood, Queenstown (offensive to transvestites...), etc, etc?
 
Alt+F4 said:
It seems to be a teenage sort of thing. Last week when my high school students were afraid of N1H1 I told them as long as a sick, Mexican pig doesn't sneeze on you, you'll be fine. One of the kids called me a racist. I told him to get back to me when he could explain how one can be racist against a pig.
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Yeah, I get ya, but that at least makes a *little* more sense than:

[Trade .2][blaumii]: Anyone know where I can buy black tuxedo pants?

[Trade .2][Acewhole]: RACIST! Hahahaaaaaaa!

:confused:
 
Molinaro said:
Death threats are never warrented.
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Irony means saying the opposite of what is meant. Dinogirl posted these accomplishments of Mr. Hagan:
Stephen moved to the Department of Foreign Affairs where he was posted as a diplomat to Colombo. He represented his people at several international forums in India and the West Indies. He spent time with Mother Theresa in Calcutta working among the destitute.

In September 2005 he received the Deadly Award at the Opera House, Sydney for Outstanding Achievement in Literature for his published non-fiction book - The N Word, One Man's Stand.
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To make the following, ironic restatement of the sentiments of other posters clear as a ridiculous misapprehension of Mr Hagan's character.

He does sound like a stupid, awful man. Those death threats certainly are warranted.
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TL;DR She doesn't really think the death threats are warranted. She pointed out how stupid such a notion is.
 
As an aussie i think its stupid to try to change the name of coon cheese, i also think the so-called n-word shouldnt be so misaligneed.

in my mind its all due to people taking offense, then loading terms with meanings, pushing those meanings onto society and robbing the language of the original word.

Ni$$er originally was just another word for black, egyptian based i think. The problem isnt the word but the associations that society puts on it.

Around my area of Queensland coon is cheese, derogotory term for indigenous people is different altogether - b00ng. (repeated only to let people know)

As i have indigenous heritage myself i think its stupid for the aboriginals to refer to themselves as black - in my mind that refers to those americans of african slave descent.

enough ranting.
 
i told my missus and she says most people in the general public couldnt give a rats a$$.

im inclined to agree. PC terms have been slow to be introduced over here and mocked at nearly every opportunity.
 
In the United States the word ni##er was not always considered derogatory. But today it's an offensive word worldwide. Hagan is not the only Aboriginal to find the word hurtful. He just doesn't want his children growing up thinking it's an acceptable word to have on a sport stand. Can we just trust these folks when they say it's painful to see/hear these words? Not having black skin, it's hard for me to tell them what's offensive and what's not. I've never had to deal with racism on a daily basis. I have no idea what it's like. No, I don't have white guilt. I'm just trying to make sense of this. I apologize for being sarcastic.
 
There's a difference between a modicum of sensitivity and PC. I rember a few years ago that localities were changing the name of places like N***** Creek. That's just having a modicum of sensitivity. Changing city names like Germantown, PA or White Settlement, TX would be PC.

As far as the "it's always been that way so the uppity darkie should shut up", that's an argumentum ad antiquitatum.
 
lionking said:
Unlike many of the arguable points made in this thread, this is beyond doubt. ;)
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Hahahaha!!

:D

I haven't been there for about 15 years. I can still remember the creepy way it made me feel....
 
I have no idea what the OP is referring to (apart from the cheese) so I can't have an opinion. A spectator stand of some kind? Like, at the MCG or something? Whatever. It is named in retrospectively poor taste, and it's not like things haven't been renamed before. If it annoys people, why the hell not change it?
 
arthwollipot said:
I have no idea what the OP is referring to (apart from the cheese) so I can't have an opinion. A spectator stand of some kind? Like, at the MCG or something? Whatever. It is named in retrospectively poor taste, and it's not like things haven't been renamed before. If it annoys people, why the hell not change it?
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I find history revision, to cater to transient PC sensibilities, offensive.

Do I get a vote?
 
arthwollipot said:
I have no idea what the OP is referring to (apart from the cheese) so I can't have an opinion. A spectator stand of some kind? Like, at the MCG or something? Whatever. It is named in retrospectively poor taste, and it's not like things haven't been renamed before. If it annoys people, why the hell not change it?
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"Blacktown" was named because of the number of aborigines in that area. It does offend some. Should it be re-named?
 
In Australia I do not believe any group of people were ever called by the N word. Hence the only reason it is offensive is because of people in the USA exporting their sensitivities over here.

AS for Coon there are 49 listing for Coon in the white pages in Victoria (a state in Australia). Should they be told to change their name too? How stupid.
 
BTMO said:
I find history revision, to cater to transient PC sensibilities, offensive.

Do I get a vote?
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I wouldn't call naming a spectator stand at a sport stadium "history revision".

lionking said:
"Blacktown" was named because of the number of aborigines in that area. It does offend some. Should it be re-named?
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Possibly. Unlike a spectator stand, the name Blacktown is on all the maps, all the signs, and in the minds of just about everyone who grew up north of the Murray. I would find it extremely difficult to call the region by any other name, especially if it were proscribed from the top down. I think that a spectator stand in a sport stadium and a major regional civic centre in Metropolitan Sydney are in somewhat different categories. Different situations require different solutions.

dingogirl said:
I see no edit button. Can I change the title to "How do you feel about this?"
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You can't edit the title of a thread, only your posts. Send a PM to Darat if you would like the title changed.
 
arthwollipot said:
I wouldn't call naming a spectator stand at a sport stadium "history revision".
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It was apparently named after someone who had the nickname "******", back in the 1920s. That was (apparently) how he was known to the local community, and (apparently) when the stadium was built, how the town wished to have him remembered.

I would suggest that it IS history revision. Local history, surely, but history all the same.
 
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