How Al Gore Will Get the Democratic Nomination

[BPSCG]

***Remember***, that article is from a source of NEWS for him.

You have no idea what my news sources are. In any case, the National Review is an opinion magazine. You should check it out now and then, to see what the Dark Side is thinking.

Then in another thread he complains about bias in the New York Times:

Complains? Au contraire; I was delighted to see the Times refer to the Iraq invasion as a "liberation," albeit more than a little surprised.

These people are almost as bad as the truthers.

Do you understand the meaning of the injunction, "Attack the argument, not the arguer"?

 

[BPSCG]

Yes, it's totally plausible that a guy who has repeatedly expressed no interest in running again, who has no campaign money, and no votes in the primaries is going to become the Democratic nominee for President.

I want to bookmark this thread to throw it back in your face when nothing remotely like this happens.

Oh, no, please don't do that! It would be the first time I've been mistaken about something since, oh about eight minutes ago.

 

[kosai]

I watch Fox News to get myself riled up, I come here too... Don't worry I purposely put myself in the line of fire of opposing opinions. Without you right-wingers I'd be pretty bored, so believe me I don't oppose your right to say what you will here.

Do you understand the meaning of the injunction, "Attack the argument, not the arguer"?

I understand it sure but I was done with the argument, unless there was something more to debate?

 

[BPSCG]

...believe me I don't oppose your right to say what you will here.

...and the first amendment breathes a sigh of relief.

 

[dudalb]

I really don't know in this day and age how a candidate that the public has not has a chance to vote for in the primaries would do in the general election.
But my gut feeling is Gore would lose another election.

 

[ImaginalDisc]

Oh, no, please don't do that! It would be the first time I've been mistaken about something since, oh about eight minutes ago.

If sources such as these constitute reliable journalism to you, I can certainly believe that you are embarrassingly mistaken every minute of every day.

 

[BPSCG]

If sources such as these constitute reliable journalism to you, I can certainly believe that you are embarrassingly mistaken every minute of every day.

I see you are channeling Kosai in that you are constructing the same straw man. Please show me where I said National Review is a news source. You do understand the difference between a news article and an opinion one, don't you? If you think the linked piece was supposed to be a news article, I suggest you enroll in an introductory journalism course and learn the distinction.

 

[ImaginalDisc]

I see you are channeling Kosai in that you are constructing the same straw man. Please show me where I said National Review is a news source. You do understand the difference between a news article and an opinion one, don't you? If you think the linked piece was supposed to be a news article, I suggest you enroll in an introductory journalism course and learn the distinction.

Clearly, you fail to understand the difference as you ran about crying out that the absurd scenario presented was worthy of telling people, as though it might actually come to pass.

What next, will you claim that Indiana Jones will make an appearance as President, this time for real?

 

[BPSCG]

Link

A Wall Street Journal tally shows Obama has 1,466 delegates and super-delegates to Clinton's 1,376; 2,025 are needed to secure the nomination. Clinton is said to have 39 more super-delegates -- or commitments from party officials and leaders -- than Obama, some of which could switch allegiances at the Democratic convention in Denver. It all means the two are in for a long fight, as Obama is expected to rack up additional victories in smaller states while Clinton is expected to take bigger contests such as the April 22 primary in Pennsylvania, said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics. The contest could go all the way to the convention floor.

"Probably Gore will have to come in and re-earn his Nobel Peace Prize and negotiate this," Sabato said, referring to Al Gore, the former vice president and 2000 presidential candidate.

Heh. Reminds me of how the panel that was put together to choose a running mate for Bush picked Dick Cheney.

 

[BPSCG]

Clearly, you fail to understand the difference as you ran about crying out that the absurd scenario presented was worthy of telling people, as though it might actually come to pass.

*shrug* You're evidently under the impression that I think the term "news" means something that may or may not happen months from now. I can see there's no point discussing this with you any further.

 

[BPSCG]

Eleanor Clift (another well-known right-wing ideologue) weighs in:

The Gore second-ballot scenario isn't being seriously considered by Democratic Party leaders (as far as we know). But a number of individual high-profile Democrats are talking about it, along with any number of other ideas to end the seemingly intractable stalemate.

How could this unfold? Superdelegates are not bound to any candidate. They can do what they want, including changing their mind or withholding an endorsement until the balloting begins. Delegates won in the primaries go to the party's convention with a signed pledge of support for a particular candidate, but one of the biggest myths of the delegate selection process, according to a Democratic National Committee document, is that delegates are bound to follow that pledge on the first ballot. A delegate is asked to "in good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them," a provision designed in part to make the convention a deliberative body. If Hillary's attempts to secure the nomination are seen as illegitimate, and they fail, yet Obama is not seen as a clear victor, Gore's name could be introduced. All it would take is a delegate perhaps from Tennessee, his home state, to raise a point of order, and with backing from five other state delegations, Gore's name could be put in play as a prospective nominee.

 

[Elizabeth I]

This fight seems to be evoking an old Hillary Trope, with a twist. From the KeyTv web site.

Argument by innuendo. How far is this veiled language from Hillary asserting "a vast Left Wing conspiracy" in the caucus?

Great. Two lawyers turned politician start a lawyeresque squabble over a process that has rules already codified.

Maybe Shakespeare was right about lawyers. (Yes, I know its an out of context bit . . . )
DR

Interesting. At our precinct convention, a couple of out-of-precinct Obama poll watchers started protesting before anything had even happened. They were mad because the temporary precinct chairman had several copies of the sign-in sheet which he placed at different places around the room so that we wouldn't have to stand in line for two hours to sign in before we could begin the business of the meeting. The Obama watchers insisted that that made it possible for people to sign in/vote several times, as if it weren't possible to cross-reference the sheets and disallow multiple sign-ins by the same person.

At approximately 15 minutes into the meeting, someone dropped the F-bomb, someone else said to stop it there are children present, and a man turned to me and told the Will Rogers joke. ["I am often asked if I am a member of any organized political party and I say, no, I'm a Democrat."]

Obama took the precinct two to one, so the Obama-ites didn't do a lot more protesting. [FULL DISCLOSURE: I was there to vote for Obama, but I still thought the poll-watchers were a little over the top.]

Too bad the Dems so often come up with truly rotten candidates. This was my first-ever precinct convention and it was a hoot. I'd like to go to more of them, but except for Obama the candidates the Democrats have fielded since I got to be old enough to vote have been either yawn-inducing or puke-provoking.

[Another aside: Until the Clintons, I never fully understood the visceral Democrat reaction to Nixon. Not that I am a Nixon defender, I just never got the tooth-grinding, eye-bulging, spittle-flying state that the name of Nixon induced in most Democrats. The Clintons, and especially Hillary, do that for me. You want to know how much? I have NEVER voted for a Democrat for President in my life - last time I didn't vote Republican either - and this year I am a precinct delegate to our district convention, to vote for Obama's nomination. I will go to the state convention too, if I get selected. Don't think I can afford to go to Denver, though.]

I really don't know in this day and age how a candidate that the public has not has a chance to vote for in the primaries would do in the general election.
But my gut feeling is Gore would lose another election.

In general, the fact that someone is a loser doesn't seem to stop the Democrats from nominating him/her for President. Bill was an anomaly, at least in recent years.