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House Impeachment Inquiry

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Zelensky said that he doesn't want to get involved in US elections - and Trump and his posse pressured him to do exactly that.
 
plague311 said:
What kind of messed up ******** is that? You can just go back and say, "Sorry, I was jk lol. There actually was a quid pro quo" without any circumstances. I hope this ******* stubs his toe every day for a week.
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He claims that hearing other testimony has refreshed his memory.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
He claims that hearing other testimony has refreshed his memory.
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Which gives President Trump, his Administration, his supporters and the whole of the GOP the opportunity to discount Sondaland's testimony on the grounds that he's clearly a liar, either in his first submission, his second submission or both ;)
 
thaiboxerken said:
Remember when it was all about denying quid-pro-quo? Now the Trumpublicans are saying that the quid-pro-quo wasn't illegal or wrong. I have to wonder if anyone, but Trumpublicans, give any credibility to anything that the Trumpublicans say anymore.
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1.) We didn't do it! What rubbish, it's all a made up lie. There's no reason to think we did it
2.) OK, I can see why you think we did it, but we didn't.
3.) OK, we did SOMETHING, but it was something different.
4): We didn't do it, and even if we did, it's not wrong
5.) Ok we did it, but there's nothing wrong with it. <--- WE ARE HERE
6.) OK, we did it, and there's something wrong with it, but everybody does it, so why are you picking on me?
7.) OK we did it and nobody else does it, but I'm in charge so I can do what I want. Shut up about it.

ETA: I missed a step
 
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bonzombiekitty said:
1.) We didn't do it! What rubbish, it's all a made up lie. There's no reason to think we did it
2.) OK, I can see why you think we did it, but we didn't.
3.) OK, we did SOMETHING, but it was something different.
4.) Ok we did it, but there's nothing wrong with it. <--- WE ARE HERE
5.) OK, we did it, and there's something wrong with it, but everybody does it, so why are you picking on me?
6.) OK we did it and nobody else does it, but I'm in charge so I can do what I want. Shut up about it.
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There should be a step just before 4): We didn't do it, and even if we did, it's not wrong. Which usually indicates that they both did it, and it's wrong.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
plague311 said:
What kind of messed up ******** is that? You can just go back and say, "Sorry, I was jk lol. There actually was a quid pro quo" without any circumstances. I hope this ******* stubs his toe every day for a week.
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He claims that hearing other testimony has refreshed his memory.
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"Refreshed" as in, "Oh, hell. I'd better see if I can head off the perjury charges.".
 
Distracted1 said:
I find it funny that Trumpsters don't realize that when he said "I could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Ave. and not lose any supporters" he was insulting them.
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I've been saying for a while now that to understand Trump and the Trumpers you have to understand how Trump could stand on stage in Iowa during the campaign, utter the phrase "How stupid are the people of Iowa?" and then win Iowa in a landslide.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I've been saying for a while now that to understand Trump and the Trumpers you have to understand how Trump could stand on stage in Iowa during the campaign, utter the phrase "How stupid are the people of Iowa?" and then win Iowa in a landslide.
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It sure seems to put the lie to the idea that the Libruls' condescension is the reason why people voted for Trump.
 
Belz... said:
It sure seems to put the lie to the idea that the Libruls' condescension is the reason why people voted for Trump.
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No it just means Trump is one of those people who can stand in front of a group of 10 people, all of whom he means to cheat, and say (either explicitly or implicitly) "Hey I'm going to cheat 9 of you and reward 1 of you" and somehow get all 10 people very clearly hear that they are 1 person who's going to get rewarded.

Trump has that "When I'm in front of Group X and say 'Lookit how stupid Group X is' I can somehow make everyone hear 'But not you *wink wink* the other members of Group X.'" It's weird.

That's the problem with Trumpers. All of them think they are either above or in on the joke. They are like the people who think they are the ones going to win in Vegas because they have 'system' or the ones who are actually going to make money on an MLM.
 
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JoeMorgue said:
That's the problem with Trumpers. All of them think they are either above or in on the joke. They are like the people who think they are the ones going to win in Vegas because they have 'system' or the ones who are actually going to make money on an MLM.
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Hum...

Yeah, I guess some humans are like that, and Trump is harnessing that.
 
JoeMorgue said:
No it just means Trump is one of those people who can stand in front of a group of 10 people, all of whom he means to cheat, and say (either explicitly or implicitly) "Hey I'm going to cheat 9 of you and reward 1 of you" and somehow get all 10 people very clearly hear that they are 1 person who's going to get rewarded.

Trump has that "When I'm in front of Group X and say 'Lookit how stupid Group X is' I can somehow make everyone hear 'But no you.... the other members of Group X.'" It's weird.
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It's like that woman in Florida, who said in an interview that she was upset because Trump's government shutdown was hurting her and her friends instead off "the people he needs to be hurting.”

Bad things are only supposed to affect people I don't like, not me.
 
Armitage72 said:
It's like that woman in Florida, who said in an interview that she was upset because Trump's government shutdown was hurting her and her friends instead off "the people he needs to be hurting.”

Bad things are only supposed to affect people I don't like, not me.
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Which is why I still think Trumps biggest group of supporters is going to stay people who think (right or wrong) that they don't have anything left to lose and who's primary motivation is doing as much damage as they can on the way out.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Sondaland has changed his testimony, now says that he told a Ukrainian official that military aid was dependent on them publicly announcing an investigation into Biden

[Edit]I see this has already been posted, but it got lost in the noise when I looked for it. Can't hurt to post it again.
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Some of the news media are saying the deal was for announcing the investigation of Biden, and some are saying the deal was for investigating/dealing with Ukraine corruption.

I should have tracked who was saying which.
 
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