Cont: House Impeachment Inquiry - part 2

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BrooklynBaby said:
Hunter Biden is allegedly the subject of multiple criminal investigations according to legal filing claims in Arkansas, just in case fake news forgets to mention it:

https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/
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But the NY Post is a whole stinking pile of fake news. So let's forget to mention it ever again. See? So easy! ;)

By the way, did you see this?
Reached by phone, Dominic Casey, the D&A investigator who filed the papers, refused to say whether his group had been retained by Roberts [Biden's accuser], or sent the information to the court of its own volition.
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Spamming courts with made-up crap is the lowest of the low. No wonder you found this!
 
theprestige said:
At least with Trump, you could almost believe that he didn't think blowjobs were sex.
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To be fair, pre-Clinton that was more of an open question. His impeachment opened up a whole bunch of conversations that moved that needle about defining sex.

It is tempting to say that was the only good thing to come out of his presidency.
 
theprestige said:
Ask Steele. It's his fantasy, after all.
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It wasn't Steele's fantasy. It was just about the only thing not confirmed in the dossier. But considering how obsequious Trump is to Putin, it wouldn't surprise me. In fact, the one thing I'm 100 percent sure about is that Putin has something on Trump. Not saying it was golden showers, but something.
 
Suddenly said:
To be fair, pre-Clinton that was more of an open question. His impeachment opened up a whole bunch of conversations that moved that needle about defining sex.

It is tempting to say that was the only good thing to come out of his presidency.
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I don't think that's fair at all. Giving another man's wife a foot rub? Open question. Giving another woman's husband a blow job? Not so much.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Can we please stop bringing this false tu quoque up?
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I am in no way comparing Clinton’s lying under oath about sexual indiscretions with a subordinate to the myriad and counting crimes and lies and misdeeds of the current president. We’re talking order-of-magnitude difference. So I fail to see the tu quoque. And I was not the one to drag Bill Clinton into a thread on Trump’s impeachment.

I just bristle whenever someone glosses over Clinton’s actual crime by saying “it was just about a blowjob”. It wasn’t, and it’s misleading and dishonest to say it was. Something I’d expect from Trump and his supporters, but I think we can do better here.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
I am in no way comparing Clinton’s lying under oath about sexual indiscretions with a subordinate to the myriad and counting crimes and misdeeds of the current president. We’re talking order-of-magnitude difference. So I fail to see the tu quoque. And I was not the one to drag Bill Clinton into a thread on Trump’s impeachment.

I just bristle whenever someone glosses over Clinton’s actual crime by saying “it was just about a blowjob”. It wasn’t, and it’s misleading and dishonest to say it was. Something I’d expect from Trump and his supporters, but I think we can do better here.
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Never bothered me a bit. Lewinsky said she came on to Clinton. They were two consenting adults. It was none of my business or the country's. I also don't really cared he lied about it. It bothered me far more that a multi year multi-million dollar investigation in to a real estate deal resulted in questions about Clinton's personal sex life.

The Ken Starr iinvestigation s a perfect example of just how sleazy and hypocritical the Republicans are.
 
acbytesla said:
The Ken Starr iinvestigation's a perfect example of just how sleazy and hypocritical the Republicans are.
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Just a reminder that Starr, a couple of years ago, had to resign as a university president because of ongoing coverups of campus rapes by football players. Oh, and he also defended Jeffrey Epstein.
Rape? Ok if you are a star(r) athlete. Pedophilia? Perfectly fine. Consensual blowjob? Impeach the bastard!
 
acbytesla said:
Trump always claims he's a genius. I don't buy it. I'd gladly spot him 20 points on any IQ test.
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Are you kidding? Any of us could spot him 50 and still win by a mile. It's like a 100 meter race between Usain Bolt and Larry the Cable Guy. Bolt could spot him 50, run backwards and still win.
 
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shemp said:
Are you kidding? Any of us could spot him 50 and still win by a mile. It's like a 100 meter race between Usain Bolt and Larry the Cable Guy. Bolt could spot him 50, run backwards and still win.
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As much as I'd like to agree, 50 points is a lot. Average IQ is between 85 and 114. Above average is 115 to 130. Gifted is 130 to to 144. Highly Gifted is 144 and up. And each test has a 15 point deviation. Trump is average. Maybe on the low side, but who knows? On a good day he might reach into the triple digits. Twenty points gives breathing room for a bad day.
 
acbytesla said:
As much as I'd like to agree, 50 points is a lot. Average IQ is between 85 and 114. Above average is 115 to 130. Gifted is 130 to to 144. Highly Gifted is 144 and up. And each test has a 15 point deviation. Trump is average. Maybe on the low side, but who knows? On a good day he might reach into the triple digits. Twenty points gives breathing room for a bad day.
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And to think some fools still believe it takes IQ experts in controlled conditions, to estimate someone's IQ.
 
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