horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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Burden of proof loses meaning without the existence of a null hypothesis.

Leading hypothesis or theory: It happened like he said.
Null hypothesis: It didn't happen like he said.

I think that you always have to include that alternative hypothesis. In many sciences the null hypothesis is the lead hypothesis by default.

Yes. However, the null hypothesis does not incur a burden of proof. It exists purely to define the parameters for proving the actual claim. A good null is constructed in such a way that falsifying it proves the actual claim. The null itself is never intended to be proven - only disproven.

The claim is that Smollett was attacked by two men. The null is that he wasn't. Finding the two men that attacked him would disprove the null and prove the claim. Nobody is obliged to prove the null.
 
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Its certainly not conclusive, but it is a hurdle. Every point were discussing is about plausibility and likelihood. The case that he is lying is being made all about speculation of motivations.

Some are, some are not.

Some red flags about motivation:

* Why would two guys shout 'MAGA country' in Chicago?

* Why would two guys carry bleach and a noose given that the testimony indicated they were surprised to recognised Smollett?

* Why would the attackers be so succinct and informative in their communication, informing their victim in nine short words that they were influenced by Trump, that they were homophobic, that they were racist and that they recognised Smollett from the show 'Empire'?

* Why would a person be attacked and then wander round for 30 minutes with a phone, yet not call the police, or an ambulance, or notify the security guard?

* Why would someone who heard his friend being attacked over the phone not call the police themselves?

* Why would that someone not come forward with the evidence at the start of the investigation, and maybe offer his phone records of that time period for perusal?

* Why would Smollett wear a noose around their neck for 45 minutes?

* Why would Smollett not provide police with evidence that might lead to the capture of his assailants?

Some red flags about feasibility:

* How does someone who is attacked by two guys end up with just a tiny scratch and an alleged broken rib?

* How does someone with a broken rib walk round the streets for half an hour?

* How likely is it than an attack took place in the few minutes of time that Smollett was not visible to CCTV?

* How likely is it that an attack by two vocal men in the streets of a big city was not seen or heard by a single independent third party?

Now even if you want to focus solely on the motivation red flags, they surely outweigh the contra-argument of 'Why would Smollett make up something like this?'
 
I'm putting the likelihood that what he claims happened actually took place at around 0%
 
Interesting theory:

Jussie is big pals with Kamala
Went to her announcement that she is going to run for President
Kamala introduced some legislation about anti-lynching which has gone nowhere
Jussie ends up the subject of a "horrifying" "hate" 'attack" in "MAGA COUNTRY"
Kamala tweets out that he was lynched and that they should pass her anti-lynching legislation.
Her completely unnecessary legislation.

Now that is a theory with some sex appeal!

A post asserting that a combination of:

  • a presidential rally,
  • anti-lynching legislation,
  • a reported attack,
  • the phrase "MAGA COUNTRY",
  • and a tweet about legislation
leads to something with "sex appeal" is a bit disturbing, even on this forum.
 
* Why would the attackers be so succinct and informative in their communication, informing their victim in nine short words that they were influenced by Trump, that they were homophobic, that they were racist and that they recognised Smollett from the show 'Empire'?

Snipped from a very good list you provided. All great points.

Just wanted to add something to this bit:

Exactly zero people exist in the world who are violent, criminal white racist homophobes living in Chicago walking around at 2am in the horrible cold with ski masks and MAGA hats on top of those ski masks equipped and ready with bleach and rope.

Zero.

Did not happen. Zero possibility it did.

But if by some miracle two such people did exist? They would not have the faintest clue who the actors in Empire are. They would, at best, be barely aware that the show existed.

They most certainly wouldn't recognize a little-known (at least to whites) actor from that series in the dark of night while everyone is bundled up against the cold.

This. did. not. take. place.

To give the slightest credence to the possibility that it did completely beclowns one.
 
A post asserting that a combination of:

  • a presidential rally,
  • anti-lynching legislation,
  • a reported attack,
  • the phrase "MAGA COUNTRY",
  • and a tweet about legislation
leads to something with "sex appeal" is a bit disturbing, even on this forum.

A lot of 'conservative' posters here are just that thirsty.
 
"So after I fell off the scooter that has yet to be found, has not been reported missing, I pulled some rope and a liquid from the Negro dimension - you know, the place where Jordan Davis pulled his shotgun to flash at Michael Dunn, and where Trayvon Martin hid in his mysterious sneak attack on a guy that was following him around - and fashioned a noose, which I put around my neck."

"THis is much better than just, you know, saying that I crashed a cheap scooter that I could easily pay to replace."

Man, some of y'all...
 
Holy crap, my coat has "negro dimensions"!

And here I am calling them pockets like a G-D sucker.
 
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"So after I fell off the scooter that has yet to be found, has not been reported missing, I pulled some rope and a liquid from the Negro dimension - you know, the place where Jordan Davis pulled his shotgun to flash at Michael Dunn, and where Trayvon Martin hid in his mysterious sneak attack on a guy that was following him around - and fashioned a noose, which I put around my neck."

"THis is much better than just, you know, saying that I crashed a cheap scooter that I could easily pay to replace."

Man, some of y'all...

My guess is that he tried a late night hookup with someone off of Grinder or whatever, ended up getting mildly beaten up by them (and I'd wager it was a black guy or guys) and needed a cover story for his injuries and decided it was a good "two birds with one stone" type of thing. As long as you're coming up with a cover story, why not generate attention and defame racial and political opponents while you're at it?

If I had to guess, that's the sort of thing I would suspect.

Also entirely possible the attention and political motives are the entirety of it and he injured himself and put the rope around his neck (easily concealed under his clothing) in an area he could tell wasn't covered by cameras.
 
Some are, some are not.
Some red flags about motivation:

* Why would two guys shout 'MAGA country' in Chicago?
Off the top of my head?

1) They were referring to the country in general, or broader areas of the state. It's more puzzling to me that people would assume that the statement could only be an assesment of the city's demographics when it does not mention "city" or "chicago". I live in upstate NY. Our state is pretty blue, so is the city. But there are certainly areas that consider themselves MAGA country.

2) They lived in a particular enclave where the majority of people they spoke to agreed with their political views and gave them a general sense that they were part of a "silent majority" in whatever relevant area they were attempting to address. That's a pretty common scenario and a not uncommon sentiment from Trump supporters over the last couple years.

3) It was more of a rally style mantra with no particular assessment of local politics intended.

4) They were intoxicated or hopped up on anger and it sounded cool to them at the time.

5) Those aren't actually the words they spoke. They may have said "MAGA (blank)" and Smollett and his agent misheard the second word, or press misreported the phrase.




* Why would two guys carry bleach and a noose given that the testimony indicated they were surprised to recognised Smollett?

I don't think the testimony has been so clear that either the assailants were surprised or that the substance was bleach. Even if those two things were facts, a simple answer might be that they were on their way to or from doing laundry. Late night laundromats are common in cities.

Or, the substance wasn't bleach and the cord used as a noose was any of the many random pieces of something that many people carry.

But again, I don't think its clear that they hadn't gone looking for Smollett, in which case any kind of preparation would be possible.

* Why would the attackers be so succinct and informative in their communication, informing their victim in nine short words that they were influenced by Trump, that they were homophobic, that they were racist and that they recognised Smollett from the show 'Empire

This is really the only point that gives me major pause. It's a little on the nose. But as far as motivations go. Certainly people who hate black people, and gay people exist. And shouting epithets during attacks on these groups is something these people seem to do. These groups also tend to be Trump fans. Look at Charlottesville to see footage of people shouting "Jews will not replace us!" and "MAGA!" it's cartoonish, but it certainly exists. Hating on particular celebrities is also pretty darned popular in the white nationalist corners of the internet.

Having all this information shouted in such a succinct package seems a little convenient though, I'll give you that.


* Why would a person be attacked and then wander round for 30 minutes with a phone, yet not call the police, or an ambulance, or notify the security guard?

Its not uncommon for victims of all sorts of attack to not act as a "perfect victim".
1)He may have been shocked or in disbelief.

2)He may, as many people in marginalized groups do, have a severe distrust of police involvement.

3)He may have had an unrelated reason not to want to involve authorities, for instance if he were high or carrying drugs.

4)He may have thought it would be impossible to actually find his attackers, and going to authorities would only give people on social media a reason to attack him which would inevitably lead to death threats and a smear on his name.

5) He may, due to adrenaline, not have felt his injuries or thought he needed medical care.

* Why would someone who heard his friend being attacked over the phone not call the police themselves?

For many of the same reasons listed above for starters.
* Why would that someone not come forward with the evidence at the start of the investigation, and maybe offer his phone records of that time period for perusal?

See my other posts on the phone records. As well as others on both sides of the issue who have given many reasons he may not want to share his phone or records.
* Why would Smollett wear a noose around their neck for 45 minutes?

This one is just strange, but it's just as strange if the story is real or fake, so it isn't particularly relevant.

* Why would Smollett not provide police with evidence that might lead to the capture of his assailants?

This seems to be a repeat. Are you referring to the phone again? That clearly would not help find the assailants.

Some red flags about feasibility:

* How does someone who is attacked by two guys end up with just a tiny scratch and an alleged broken rib?

We don't have access to his full medical charts, so you're sort of minimizing and extrapolating from our limited information. We don't actually know what injuries he may have sustained.

That said, the attack as you noted would have occurred in a brief window. We don't know anything about the comparative fitness of the assailants and Smollett, any sounds or events that may have cut an attack short, their possible intoxication.

It is not rare for a fight to end without broken bones.

* How does someone with a broken rib walk round the streets for half an hour?

Already answered by another poster who experienced a broken rib.

* How likely is it than an attack took place in the few minutes of time that Smollett was not visible to CCTV?

I'll admit I haven't been following the minutia of the timing, so I'm not sure if we have so definitively narrowed down the time frame. But if we have, that's as much a problem for any alternate theory. When did he aquire the rope the bleach/fluid and the injury? Or the scooter or whatever. If those events are not on tape with a narrow window that would be as much a weird coincidence as the attack not being on tape.

Or maybe we're all just overestimating how much street activity is actually taped.

* How likely is it that an attack by two vocal men in the streets of a big city was not seen or heard by a single independent third party?

Again something we're not sure of. Police don't make every possible witness public immediately. That said, it was very late on a bitterly cold night. Not hard to believe that a particular block would be deserted.
 
I can understand not handing over the phone. A lot of younger people these days live on their phones, and being separated from them for even 15 minutes can start to cause then anxiety. Can you imagine how they would react to being without it for the time it took to get it back once it was considered Police Evidence? Heck I don't live on my phone, I use it maybe a couple of times a week, I don't have anything embarrassing on it, and I still wouldn't give it to the police as evidence because it's my phone and I might have need for it at some point before they return it. For someone that is on their phone nearly 24/7, that would be a huge concern.

I don’t think that’s a legitimate reason pretty much everything can be restored on a new phone and I am guessing he could afford it.
 
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