Holocaust Denial Videos

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uk_dave said:
Nazis do whine alot.
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Quite surprising, for members of a strong, superior race, don't you think?

"Waaaaaaaaah! Look what the bad Jews did! Help, help, we're being oppressed! " -- regardless of the absurdity of the accusations -- doesn't exactly make them look like candidates for the world's natural leaders.
 
Why Holocaust Belief Is So Strong

You almost can't convince somebody that the holocaust is a fraud. The Believer will think you're a bad person, that you're a Nazi. All the accusations, jeering, strawmans on this thread attest to this.

The videos (particularly Nazi Shrunken Heads) show how holocaust belief is analogous to Christian belief. Both define good and evil. And a christian in a conversation with an atheist will have the same suspicions: that the atheist has nefarious reasons for making him lose his faith, and the Christian can't even comprehend what it would be like to lose his faith, he thinks he'd be a horrible person if he did! The christian will be focused on the atheists ill-intentions just like people here are focused on holocaust denier's ill intentions.

People want to think that Hitler wanted to take over the world, meanwhile the British somewhat had taken over the world, but they don't have the same diabolical-ness associated with them. The reason that Hitler went into Scandinavia and Africa and France was to meet the British army before the British army could go into those areas. Afterall, Britain went into West Africa. Was it to take over West Africa? No it was advance toward a front with Germany/Italy. Does that mean I support Hitler/Nazism? No, just like saying Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction doesn't mean you're supporting Saddam Hussein.

The videos make all this very clear. Hope you can watch them.
 
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Budly said:
You almost can't convince somebody that the holocaust is a fraud. The Believer will think you're a bad person, that you're a Nazi. All the accusations, jeering, strawmans on this thread attest to this.
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Yea. It just COULDN'T be because any thinking person would, when all the evidence is considered, be hard to to convince that the holocaust was a hoax, would it? I mean, it takes a special kind of person to see all through that nasty, inconvenient evidence to come to the conclusion that the whole thing is an ingenious plot by the Jews. I guess it's just only a few people who are that special, like you.

Congratulations. You've broken the Matrix.
 
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Hi Twinstead,

O.k. after watching "One Third of the Holocaust." Give me some evidence to support the holocaust from the three camps that video is about: the epicenter of the holocaust: Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.

Because if you give me evidence from Ohrdruf, Buchenwald, Bergen Belsen, you're giving me evidence from places holocaust scholars don't believe the holocaust greatly happened. You'd be giving me evidence from West Europe while holocaust scholars like this one believe it happened in East Europe.
 
I'm fairly certian Budly is Bradley Smith based on his writing style/wording, links to the same videos, theories about the Holocaust and Zionism, etc.
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I doubt it. Bradley Smith is about 80 years old. Since Budly is certainly Denier Bud of the videos, and the voice on that video is not that of an 80 year old, I don't think he's Bradley Smith. Also, Bradley Smith is not known for posting on internet discussion boards, not even the CODOH board, which is affiliated with his own website.

- woolfe
 
It's weird how skeptics can be "the new Christians." With Holocaust Deniers as the new atheists. The nefarious underhanded peddling, spamming, plying, secret neo-nazism attributed to holocaust deniers is akin to the demons in C.S. Lewis' The Screwtape Letters. LOL.

I simply asked people here to watch some videos and offer their opinion of the videos. That simple. Instead I got a 2009 version of The Screwtape Letters.
 
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Budly said:
It's weird how skeptics can be "the new Christians." With Holocaust Deniers as the new atheists. The nefarious underhanded peddling, spamming, plying, secret neo-nazism attributed to holocaust deniers is akin to the demons in C.S. Lewis' The Screwtape Letters. LOL.
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Crivvens!

That's what your arguments have boiled down to?

Baseless metaphors that don't even make sense the way YOU think they do?

You're flailing. As if you ever weren't.

Monterey Jack.
 
Budly,

Please provide specific evidence to support specific claims and we will discuss it. Preferably evidence and claims that haven't already been debunked at that fantastic website linked to by Terry et al.
 
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Budly said:
I simply asked people here to watch some videos and offer their opinion of the videos.
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That's not how it works. You are simply spamming your pet videos without even attempting to engage in rational discussion on a discussion forum. That is not only boring and useless, particularly on a skeptics forum, but it is also supremely stupid.

I, for one, will not click on your links at all because I refuse to be manipulated by some anonymous agenda-driven poster on the Internet, whose obvious goal is to promote his pet Internet videos.

If and when you are up to discussing issues rather than spamming videos and attempting to impose ridiculous "rules" (which you are not entitled to impose), perhaps you will get a better reception. Failing that, I would suggest that you try spamming your pet videos elsewhere.
 
LashL said:
I, for one, will not click on your links at all because I refuse to be manipulated by some anonymous agenda-driven poster on the Internet, whose obvious goal is to promote his pet Internet videos.
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I encourage you to click on at least one. Just to see how long you can stomach listening to the appallingly ugly voice over.
 
Budly said:
It's weird how skeptics can be "the new Christians." With Holocaust Deniers as the new atheists. The nefarious underhanded peddling, spamming, plying, secret neo-nazism attributed to holocaust deniers is akin to the demons in C.S. Lewis' The Screwtape Letters. LOL.

I simply asked people here to watch some videos and offer their opinion of the videos. That simple. Instead I got a 2009 version of The Screwtape Letters.
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I'll againa ask, as someone who is using the freespeech argument for Holocaust deniers, if you had the power, would you prevent Holocaust literature films, organziations etc from coming to fruition and/or being published?
 
gtc said:
I encourage you to click on at least one. Just to see how long you can stomach listening to the appallingly ugly voice over.
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Are they hosted anywhere else? I'd like to hear how bad they are, but have no intention of inflating his number of hits.
 
Budly said:
Hi Twinstead,

O.k. after watching "One Third of the Holocaust." Give me some evidence to support the holocaust from the three camps that video is about: the epicenter of the holocaust: Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.

Because if you give me evidence from Ohrdruf, Buchenwald, Bergen Belsen, you're giving me evidence from places holocaust scholars don't believe the holocaust greatly happened. You'd be giving me evidence from West Europe while holocaust scholars like this one believe it happened in East Europe.
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The commonly-held narrative is that the holocaust did indeed happen. It is supported by the VAST majority of historians on Earth. The record--and its evidence-is out there for everybody to see.

The way I look at it, this is your claim; I don't have to prove anything. The onus is entirely on you to support your theory that somehow those nasty Jews fooled the entire world's body of historical experts except for a tiny number of intrepid truth seekers.

Jesus, the more I read what you post the more I understand how all conspiracy theorists use the same tactics to try to shove crap down people's throats. I don't know what is more disgusting, some fool trying to convince me that the 9-11 was an inside job, or the moon landings were hoaxed, or the holocaust never happened.

I'm leaning towards you folks.
 
Budly said:
People want to think that Hitler wanted to take over the world, meanwhile the British somewhat had taken over the world, but they don't have the same diabolical-ness associated with them. The reason that Hitler went into Scandinavia and Africa and France was to meet the British army before the British army could go into those areas.
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Looks like someone forgot about Poland. You know, where old One Ball and his band of perverts ran their biggest extermination camps?

"Hitler was saving France from the British," that is some god damn fancy thinking there Bundly, keep it up.
 
abenja1 said:
I'll againa ask, as someone who is using the freespeech argument for Holocaust deniers, if you had the power, would you prevent Holocaust literature films, organziations etc from coming to fruition and/or being published?
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I doubt they would bother with that. They would simply build new camps, and put all their opponents, the entire population of this forum except for budly, MaGZ and Mondial included, in there, with their extermination scheduled pending the fabrication of evidence for our supposed crimes.
 
oldhat said:
I'm fairly certian Budly is Bradley Smith based on his writing style/wording, links to the same videos, theories about the Holocaust and Zionism, etc.
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I didn't look too closely at the blog, but I don't think the language is similiar.

Then there's this: Holocaust deniers don't usually call themselves deniers. In fact, Smith calls himself a "revisonist," but Budly calls himself a "denier."

If it is Smith, then Smith just isn't trying very hard anymore.
 
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