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Holocaust denial and Truthers

little grey rabbit said:
I have spent some time there.
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I hope you found time to visit all the tasteful memorials to the holocaust that are scattered all over germany to ensure the people never forget their shame. I was visibly moved as I was when I visited Anne Frank house in Amsterdam. Did you get to see the memorials?

I had a relative who was torpedoed and drowned during the war. I feel sorry he should have lost his life feeding such a worthless, dishonest and hypocritical island.
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Care to elaborate?

But we were all empire back then, so he probably didn't see you guys as foreigners. Perhaps if he had forward vision and saw how you brought about the Iraq invasion he might have had more sense and stayed home.
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I brought about the Iraq invasion? Please tell me how I managed that.
 
funk de fino said:
I hope you found time to visit all the tasteful memorials to the holocaust that are scattered all over germany to ensure the people never forget their shame. I was visibly moved as I was when I visited Anne Frank house in Amsterdam. Did you get to see the memorials?
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I have visited Anne Frank's House. Mauthausen, Auschwitz-Birkenau 3 times, Majdanek 3 times, Dachau, Buchenwald twice, Sachsenhausen twice, Wannsee House, Topology of Terror in Berlin (and the various other memorials in Berlin), Treblinka, Warsaw Ghetto and Pawniak twice, Ponary, (but failed to locate Rumbula when I went to Riga), Hartheim, Thereseinstadt twice, and various branches of the Bundesarchivs, eine Laenderarchive, Mauthausen Archives, DOW archives, one University Zeitgeschichte archive as well as the Ifz in Munich.

I am sure if think about it some more things will come up.



I brought about the Iraq invasion? Please tell me how I managed that.
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Collectively you did nothing to stop it, so presumably you see yourselves deserving the same fate as Dresden or Hamburg in WW2. Fair's fair.
 
little grey rabbit said:
I have visited Anne Frank's House. Mauthausen, Auschwitz-Birkenau 3 times, Majdanek 3 times, Dachau, Buchenwald twice, Sachsenhausen twice, Wannsee House, Topology of Terror in Berlin (and the various other memorials in Berlin), Treblinka, Warsaw Ghetto and Pawniak twice, Ponary, (but failed to locate Rumbula when I went to Riga), Hartheim, Thereseinstadt twice, and various branches of the Bundesarchivs, eine Laenderarchive, Mauthausen Archives, DOW archives, one University Zeitgeschichte archive as well as the Ifz in Munich.

I am sure if think about it some more things will come up.
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And the newer memorials right? You saw them?

Collectively you did nothing to stop it, so presumably you see yourselves deserving the same fate as Dresden or Hamburg in WW2. Fair's fair.
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Who did nothing to stop what?

Care to expand on this or do you not have the cajones?

I feel sorry he should have lost his life feeding such a worthless, dishonest and hypocritical island.
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funk de fino said:
And the newer memorials right? You saw them?
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If you mean the Jewish Museum and the bizarre collection of concrete blocks in the middle of Berlin, then yes I saw them as well.

Oh yes, I visited Yad Vashem in Jerusalem as well.


Care to expand on this or do you not have the cajones?
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I don't think he should have risked his life to feed perfidious Albion, had he known what I know I am sure he would have agreed.
 
little grey rabbit said:
If you mean the Jewish Museum and the bizarre collection of concrete blocks in the middle of Berlin, then yes I saw them as well.

Oh yes, I visited Yad Vashem in Jerusalem as well.
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Not just Berlin. All over Germany. Many of them. A reminder of the horror

I don't think he should have risked his life to feed perfidious Albion, had he known what I know I am sure he would have agreed.
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What do you know and where do you get off casting accusations at me? Stop being a coward and spit it out. Who did nothing to stop what?

Where are you from?
 
funk de fino, are you seriously suggesting I have not visited more fricking memorials than any person should visit if they wish to preserve their sanity?

Which one precisely would you recommend?
 
little grey rabbit said:
funk de fino, are you seriously suggesting I have not visited more fricking memorials than any person should visit if they wish to preserve their sanity?
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No, I wanted to see which ones you had seen.

Which one precisely would you recommend?
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All of them.

What do you know and where do you get off casting accusations at me? Stop being a coward and spit it out. Who did nothing to stop what?

Where are you from?
 
Could have been worse... it could've been a neo-aussie... whatever that is...

:p
 
little grey rabbit said:
I had a relative who was torpedoed and drowned during the war. I feel sorry he should have lost his life feeding such a worthless, dishonest and hypocritical island.
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Too bad you never knew him. You might not have grown up with such a mistaken idea of just how evil Naziism was. Try talking to some of the people who were alive back then.
 
Profanz said:
Why are Israel or Pro-Zionism people so concerned with promoting the official version of 9/11 and the supposed Islamic extremist threat? Really? You really don't see how everyone else sees how obvious this is? I mean why were we lied into a war to begin with? Who exactly told those lies? It's friggin ridiculous around here. But some of you cower here and pretend like something like this forum is going to be enough to fend those facts off.

The worst thing that ever happened to Israel as far as America support goes was 9/11. In that sense the terrorist won. (Terrorists right?) And believe me. The more America looks at Israel the less the American people will support it. What happened yesterday? Hmmm...

But don't get me wrong. I know it's complicated. But I don't care about terrorists. I don't care about Islam and quite frankly I don't care about Zionism. I'm an American with a job and a family and my own problems. But if it's between Islam and Zionism and their and bickering, and this causes Americans to be jumping out of skyscrapers? I would have to say none of the former of them are worth it as far as America goes. What do either of them do for America anyway?

Anyway. Stop bringing up the Holocaust. 9/11 has nothing to do with the Holocaust.
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You have to keep in mind, this thread was started by someone (I am told) who believes there is a connection between the two. I have said many times 911 Truth is not logically connected to Holocaust denial and that historically the two are seperate ideas. My point is that crazy people believe in conspiracies. They believe in conspiracy X and conspiracy Y. They draw connections between imaginary ideas and believe this gives them big IQ numbers. Some of them are left-wing nuts left over from the 60s who believe Bush and Obama are the same thing. Some of them are UFO nuts who believe aliens control the world and Bush and Obama are the same thing. Some of them are libertarian nuts who believe all government is bad and that Bush and Obama are the same thing. And then there is some group who believes the Jews really run the world and that Bush and Obama are same thing. Only this last group believes that 911 and the Holocaust are connected through conspiracy. But all these others are so pathetic and disgusting they'll hang with Holocaust deniers just because they don't have the sense to realize they're being just as pathetic and disgusting with their 911 conspiracy theories.

911 Truthers Defend Holocaust Denier
 
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scott.in.taiwan said:
You have to keep in mind, this thread was started by someone (I am told) who believes there is a connection between the two. I have said many times 911 Truth is not logically connected to Holocaust denial and that historically the two are seperate ideas. My point is that crazy people believe in conspiracies. They believe in conspiracy X and conspiracy Y. They draw connections between imaginary ideas and believe this gives them big IQ numbers. Some of them are left-wing nuts left over from the 60s who believe Bush and Obama are the same thing. Some of them are UFO nuts who believe aliens control the world and Bush and Obama are the same thing. Some of them are libertarian nuts who believe all government is bad and that Bush and Obama are the same thing. And then there is some group who believes the Jews really run the world and that Bush and Obama are same thing. Only this last group believes that 911 and the Holocaust are connected through conspiracy. But all these others are so pathetic and disgusting they'll hang with Holocaust deniers just because they don't have the sense to realize they're being just as pathetic and disgusting with their 911 conspiracy theories.

911 Truthers Defend Holocaust Denier
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I don't need to see any youtube videos. I understand that their are people who believe that every evil thing that has ever happened in the world is perpetrated by Jews. And there are way too many of them. All I can do is speak for myself. It's just not where I am coming from. I just can't believe how often I am lumped into that category for speaking out about 9/11 around here. It's ridiculous but that card is pulled around here constantly and always has been. It's cheap.
 
Profanz said:
I don't need to see any youtube videos. I understand that their are people who believe that every evil thing that has ever happened in the world is perpetrated by Jews. And there are way too many of them. All I can do is speak for myself. It's just not where I am coming from. I just can't believe how often I am lumped into that category for speaking out about 9/11 around here. It's ridiculous but that card is pulled around here constantly and always has been. It's cheap.
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I believe you and I agree with you on this one. In fact, I'm sure I agree with you on a lot of things. Milk is white. The sun rises in the morning. There is a farmer in the dell. I also agree that some Truthers are not mentally ill; althought some are. I agree that some Truthers would score in the normal range on an IQ test, although some would not. The problem is the mentally ill, the retards, and yes...even the Nazis, they all agree with you on 911 for the same reason. They know there's something out there trying to get them.

In fact, I suspect you know there's nothing out there and that the stuff you tell about 911 is fabricated and imagined. I doubt you live your life as if you really believe there's an all-powerful government that murders people. My guess is your life is pretty much the same as mine and everyone else's. And finally, my guess is you make up all this crap to feel important and good about yourself. It may very well be that this is the only thing you can think of that anyone else would listen to. It's kind of sad, but people will do the silliest things just to feel good about themselves.
 
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scott.in.taiwan said:
I believe you and I agree with you on this one. In fact, I'm sure I agree with you on a lot of things. Milk is white. The sun rises in the morning. There is a farmer in the dell. I also agree that some Truthers are not mentally ill; althought some are. I agree that some Truthers would score in the normal range on an IQ test, although some would not. The problem is the mentally ill, the retards, and yes...even the Nazis, they all agree with you on 911 for the same reason. They know there's something out there trying to get them.

In fact, I suspect you know there's nothing out there and that the stuff you tell about 911 is fabricated and imagined. I doubt you live your life as if you really believe there's an all-powerful government that murders people. My guess is your life is pretty much the same as mine and everyone else's. And finally, my guess is you make up all this crap to feel important and good about yourself. It may very well be that this is the only thing you can think of that anyone else would listen to. It's kind of sad, but people will do the silliest things just to feel good about themselves.
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Started out good but just you needed to put the jabs in there at the end didn't you? Good for you.

If I wanted to be famous or get recognition this would be the last place I would come to. And I know a thing or two about that kind of thing. Talking about 9/11 ain't a popularity magnet. The fact is this place is really the only place that even talks about it anymore in any kind of relevant manner. And even that's only occasionally. That's it. Where should I go? Youtube?
 
Profanz said:
The fact is this place is really the only place that even talks about it anymore in any kind of relevant manner.
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Why do you think that is?

Have all those other places that used to talk about 9/11 in a relevant manner been shut down by the government or the illuminati? Were their servers destroyed in false flag attacks? Have the people who frequented those places disappeared after midnight knocks at their doors by masked agents in unmarked vehicles?

Or did a great majority of the people with an interest in alternative explanations of what really happened at 9/11 lose interest for other reasons? Such as, perhaps, lack of credible supporting evidence for those alternative claims, argumentation designed to evade disproof of dubious claims via prevarication and distraction rather than making a case for any alternative hypotheses, lack of action congruent with what the movement's leaders claim to believe, and yes, the movement's overall willingness to associate with, and support, anti-Semites and holocaust deniers?

(Love the avatar, by the way. Always have. I gather that the fist represents you, and the guy whose face the fist in slamming into represents the audience that, for some mysterious reason, you do not seem to be winning over to your point of view.)

No, it can't be the anti-Semites, the absurd claims, the deceptive (but easily checked) out of context quotes, the predictions of impending revolution that ever recede farther into the future, the juvenile Internet pissing matches... it must be that people are psychologically incapable of facing unpleasant facts, is that still the excuse?

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
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