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Historical Serial Killer: Jack The Ripper

Big Les said:
Don't be ridiculous.







It's uteri.
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you know when I wrote that I thought it looked odd, but didn't think further about it as I put it down to the idea of owning uteri being odd in of itself.

thanks
;)
 
Big Les said:
No - because that's one of the weaker pieces of evidence having as it does only one anecdotal source. It's the weight of circumstantial evidence.
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But evidence that could be collected were he taken seriously as a suspect. Which the English did, but they lost interest when he left their jurisdiction.
It would be worth revisiting the folklore and historical accounts just to check this specific hypothesis though. You might just find one or two possibilities.
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By this I assume you are talking about human agents performing seemingly-inhuman deeds, right? Not that werewolves are real, right? (hopeful :) )
 
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The slightest glance at my posting history or the link in my sig should reassure you that it's the former ;)

I'm keeping an open mind on the idea that old-fashioned human killers could have contributed to supernatural folklore, which thus far I've not seen evidence of.
 
Big Les said:
The slightest glance at my posting history or the link in my sig should reassure you that it's the former ;)

I'm keeping an open mind on the idea that old-fashioned human killers could have contributed to supernatural folklore, which thus far I've not seen evidence of.
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Well, there was the case of Gilles Garnier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_Garnier) who, in the 1500s, was convicted of being a werewolf over several murders (as well as canabailism).

Now, of course, its impossible to know whether his case contributed to a belief in werewolves by providing some sort of confirmation, or whether they just used a pre-existing belief as an explaination for his crimes (since belief in werewolves predated this case.)
 
Marduk said:
ok still, show me a vampire or a werewolf that collected uterus's
:D
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You know, I'm still waiting to hear why, if Tumblety really was the ripper and was infatuated with collecting Uterus's, that he didn't take the Uterus of the last victim, despite the fact that he had the most time to spend with the body.

Also still waiting to hear how someone could be smart enough as Tublety was to avoid jail in North America prior to the murders, turn around and be an idiot for a few months (killing people in public areas where there is a high chance of being caught), and then going back to being 'smart' by using false names, etc. Was he hit in the head or something?

Also waiting to hear how a serial killer could get used to killing people, then either stop, or totally change signitures. Tumblety was 'free' in France, and in the U.S. Where is the trail of ripper-like killings?
 
Segnosaur said:
Well, there was the case of Gilles Garnier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_Garnier) who, in the 1500s, was convicted of being a werewolf over several murders (as well as canabailism).

Now, of course, its impossible to know whether his case contributed to a belief in werewolves by providing some sort of confirmation, or whether they just used a pre-existing belief as an explaination for his crimes (since belief in werewolves predated this case.)
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Yeah, that was mentioned before - I tend toward the latter explanation for that very cause/effect reason.
 
Finally, we've solved the Ripper Murders! Jack the Ripper is none other than this forum's very own Marduk. I tell you, the evidence all fits.

Proof that Marduk is Jack the Ripper:

- He has an infatuation with the Uterus, and Jack the Ripper removed them from some of his victims

- He hasn't provided a verifiable alibi for his whereabouts during the late 1800s, when the Ripper murders were taking place

- He's been a member here since April, and he gives his location as Berkshire... and there haven't been any Jack the Ripper murders in London since he joined the JREF forums

- He claims that Jack the Ripper was an "organized" serial killer who knew how to avoid detection, and what better way to show that than by trying to put the blame on an innocent man like Tublety.

So, stay where you are, and we'll send the cops right over to have a little 'chat' with you...
 
and I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you darned kids
:D
 
Marduk said:
it didn't answer any questions except to claim that it wasn't a masonic plot, and really it has no credibility, it didn't even mention uteri
:D
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Maybe. Anyway, "it was done by royalty/royal VIP.." is the only logical explanation why the case was buried the way it was.
 
let`s talk said:
Maybe. Anyway, "it was done by royalty/royal VIP.." is the only logical explanation why the case was buried the way it was.
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its no where as credible as claiming that they buried it because they didn't catch him and the public weren't impressed, or can you give me an example of any organisation that adds to its prestige by advertising its biggest mistakes ?
:rolleyes:

and hey listen, if the Royals wanted uteri they could have easily got them
:D
 
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