Hillary Clinton is Done

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It's also interesting how Sanders' supporters (kellyb I'm including you) can cherry pick the comments when most everyone else hearing them heard a subtle endorsement of Clinton.
 
It's also interesting how Sanders' supporters (kellyb I'm including you) can cherry pick the comments when most everyone else hearing them heard a subtle endorsement of Clinton.

Which really shouldn't surprise anyone. The reason I was a Hillary supporter in 2008 was because she was to the left (at least if you listened to her words instead of looking at her actions) of Obama. He has improved somewhat over the last year or so.
 
At town hall and asked why HRC doesn't have enthusiastic young base, like Bernie does.

She gave a lecture on why so many people attack her!
Oddly that explained it perfect to the young man! She has no answer!
 
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Clinton did very well in the Town Meeting on CNN tonight.

O'Malley had some good moments. Sanders is still pie in the sky, yes I agree with his points. I don't agree enough people in the country are going to join his millions of voters movement.

Clinton came across as incredibly competent.
 
Took responsibility for Iran deal. Claimed Kerry, and Obama just buttoned it up at the end! Then went on to take responsibility for every thing , but the internet!:jaw-dropp
 
Oops! She got nailed on a push back question!

It was how can she claim to work so well with Republicans, after insulting them?
He called her out on recently answering, who she was proud to have made enemies with.( or something like that). Her answer was Republicans. Boy she danced like a drunk Fred Astaire!

Guess Carville didn't prepare her for that!
 
When asked if it was fair for the Des moines Register to say, "when she makes a mistake she should just say so, and that is a lesson she has not learned. That She apologized, but only when she needed/had to"!

She at first says, yes fair criticism. Then moderator asks if she's willing to admit to an error in judgement? She says NO and dances again!

Again using the worn out excuse of convenience for the home brew!
*Cough cough* BS!

Funny thing, watching on DVR it ran long, and she is cut !
 
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It's also interesting how Sanders' supporters (kellyb I'm including you) can cherry pick the comments when most everyone else hearing them heard a subtle endorsement of Clinton.

What I said was "but his SOTU address kind of seemed to give a nod to them both, and I think he's stated he won't be endorsing anyone."

I'm not the one cherry picking quotes, either. It was the politico article that seemed to be cherry picking quotes to imply a subtle endorsement.
 
I think both Clinton and Sanders did extremely well (I admit I didn't pay attention to O'malley.)

yes I agree with his points. I don't agree enough people in the country are going to join his millions of voters movement.

I have no idea if it'll work or not. All I know is that it's better idea than not even trying.
 
Hillary is Mistaken...

Here is Hillary's response regarding the President that she most admires, Abe Lincoln

You know, he was willing to reconcile and forgive. And I don't know what our country might have been like had he not been murdered, but I bet that it might have been a little less rancorous, a little more forgiving and tolerant, that might possibly have brought people back together more quickly. But instead, you know, we had Reconstruction, we had the re-instigation of segregation and Jim Crow. We had people in the South feeling totally discouraged and defiant. So, I really do believe he could have very well put us on a different path.

The answer suggests that Reconstruction was a mistake, and that white southerners’ resentment of it was justified. She also seems to think Lincoln was a sympathetic figure in the South.

So she managed to demonstrate that she doesn't know much about History, while managing to piss off both blacks AND Southerners!

There goes South Carolina, Hillary.

/the sad thing is that seemed like a vetted answer that she had practiced at some point. Oy vey....
 
I fail to see how that answer was wrong. Reconstruction, as implemented, did prove divisive.
 
I fail to see how that answer was wrong. Reconstruction, as implemented, did prove divisive.

:eye-poppi

She is equating the Reconstruction and implementation of the 13th-15th amendments to the Jim Crow era....

that is absolutely ridiculous.
 
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She is equating the Reconstruction and implementation of the 13th-15th amendments to the Jim Crow era....

that is absolutely ridiculous.

Agreed. Reconstruction postponed the Jim Crow era. Reconstruction obviously didn't go far enough.

One interesting tidbit, Reconstruction gave us the term "carpetbagger," an idea to which Hillary owes her entire political career.
 
Looks like Warren is NOT going to be endorsing Clinton;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/liam-miller/elizabeth-warren-sinks-clintons-hopes_b_9058526.html

In a speech before the Senate Thursday, on the sixth anniversary of the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, Elizabeth Warren made clear -- for those with ears to hear -- that she will not endorse Hillary Clinton.

If you have observed how closely Warren's and Bernie Sanders's messages line up, it is hard to imagine that she would endorse Clinton over him, anyway. Even so, the question has remained. But now, were there any question about whether or not Clinton is truly a Progressive, Elizabeth Warren -- with her extraordinary, precise eye for the heart of an issue, and her unsurpassed clarity of expression -- has answered it.

The first ten minutes of Warren's speech address corruption in campaign finance, and the impact of Citizens United. She lists seven steps we could take right now, including six actions -- bills before Congress, executive action, and powers already within the purview of the FEC and the SEC; and the seventh, a Constitutional Amendment to restore federal and state authority to regulate campaign contributions.

Warren is eloquent, moving, and on topic as always. Right at the end, however, she changes gears. I almost missed it; what she had said up to that point was so compelling that my mind was ringing. It was only on the second listen that I caught them: three sentences that leapt from the specific (campaign finance reform) to the general (Progressivism itself):

A new presidential election is upon us. The first votes will be cast in Iowa in just eleven days. Anyone who shrugs and claims that change is just too hard has crawled into bed with the billionaires who want to run this country like some private club.

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My only gripe with that speech is her claim, people are saying "change" is too hard. That's dishonest. People are saying Sanders' approach to change won't work, not that change can't happen.
 
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