Skeptic Ginger
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It's also interesting how Sanders' supporters (kellyb I'm including you) can cherry pick the comments when most everyone else hearing them heard a subtle endorsement of Clinton.
It's positively adorable the way both of them are trying to pretend like 2008 never happened.
It's also interesting how Sanders' supporters (kellyb I'm including you) can cherry pick the comments when most everyone else hearing them heard a subtle endorsement of Clinton.
...Clinton came across as incredibly competent.
It's also interesting how Sanders' supporters (kellyb I'm including you) can cherry pick the comments when most everyone else hearing them heard a subtle endorsement of Clinton.
yes I agree with his points. I don't agree enough people in the country are going to join his millions of voters movement.
Sanders is still pie in the sky,
You know, he was willing to reconcile and forgive. And I don't know what our country might have been like had he not been murdered, but I bet that it might have been a little less rancorous, a little more forgiving and tolerant, that might possibly have brought people back together more quickly. But instead, you know, we had Reconstruction, we had the re-instigation of segregation and Jim Crow. We had people in the South feeling totally discouraged and defiant. So, I really do believe he could have very well put us on a different path.
I fail to see how that answer was wrong. Reconstruction, as implemented, did prove divisive.

She is equating the Reconstruction and implementation of the 13th-15th amendments to the Jim Crow era....
that is absolutely ridiculous.
Hillary for Prison!
In a speech before the Senate Thursday, on the sixth anniversary of the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, Elizabeth Warren made clear -- for those with ears to hear -- that she will not endorse Hillary Clinton.
If you have observed how closely Warren's and Bernie Sanders's messages line up, it is hard to imagine that she would endorse Clinton over him, anyway. Even so, the question has remained. But now, were there any question about whether or not Clinton is truly a Progressive, Elizabeth Warren -- with her extraordinary, precise eye for the heart of an issue, and her unsurpassed clarity of expression -- has answered it.
The first ten minutes of Warren's speech address corruption in campaign finance, and the impact of Citizens United. She lists seven steps we could take right now, including six actions -- bills before Congress, executive action, and powers already within the purview of the FEC and the SEC; and the seventh, a Constitutional Amendment to restore federal and state authority to regulate campaign contributions.
Warren is eloquent, moving, and on topic as always. Right at the end, however, she changes gears. I almost missed it; what she had said up to that point was so compelling that my mind was ringing. It was only on the second listen that I caught them: three sentences that leapt from the specific (campaign finance reform) to the general (Progressivism itself):
A new presidential election is upon us. The first votes will be cast in Iowa in just eleven days. Anyone who shrugs and claims that change is just too hard has crawled into bed with the billionaires who want to run this country like some private club.
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