Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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Fast Eddie B said:
To defend myself from the hypocrisy charge...

We’re Bush’s emails stored on a government server? And in that case, were emails deleted via proper review by government officials?

Serious questions, because I just don’t know.

In any case, I think the differentiator might be Hillary using a private server and using private attorneys to decide which were worthy of destruction.
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Here you go, just so you can see the hypocrisy of the GOP
 
PhantomWolf said:
Here you go, just so you can see the hypocrisy of the GOP
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Now if you really want to see hypocrisy, take a gander at this ****, it will blow your socks off!

"Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps. We know about secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts."

H. Clinton 2007.

And then she goes out and sets up her own rough and ready cowboy server down by Bill's rumpus room!

That hypocrisy has got to infuriate you, right??
 
The Big Dog said:
Now if you really want to see hypocrisy, take a gander at this ****, it will blow your socks off!

"Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps. We know about secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts."

H. Clinton 2007.

And then she goes out and sets up her own rough and ready cowboy server down by Bill's rumpus room!

That hypocrisy has got to infuriate you, right??
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Speaking against something at first, and then later doing it when the party that was doing it first claimed it is fine is not actually hypocrisy. We see sports teams do the same thing, where they might complain to the Ref that something is illegal, but if the Refs let it go, they'll start using the same tactic. Doing something yourself and claiming it's all good and legal, and then pursuing someone else that does it as them doing something horrendously evil and illegal, is.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Speaking against something at first, and then later doing it when the party that was doing it first claimed it is fine is not actually hypocrisy. We see sports teams do the same thing, where they might complain to the Ref that something is illegal, but if the Refs let it go, they'll start using the same tactic. Doing something yourself and claiming it's all good and legal, and then pursuing someone else that does it as them doing something horrendously evil and illegal, is.
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Well, wait a tick! Then what Bush did wasn't actually bad, because Hillary did it too, and therefore what the "Trumpkins" are doing is not bad either.

Just kidding, Hillary is a total hypocrite, and saying Bush did it first and that makes it ok for her is nonsense
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, wait a tick! Then what Bush did wasn't actually bad, because Hillary did it too, and therefore what the "Trumpkins" are doing is not bad either.

Just kidding, Hillary is a total hypocrite, and saying Bush did it first and that makes it ok for her is nonsense
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If you think what Hillary did was wrong, then you should be doubly for Bush's team and the Trumpkins that are doing the same thing, which I haven't seen you do yet.

Personally I don't think that any one them did anything hideous. The systems each are using is a replacement for the Non-Classified Government system, and I have no problem with that. I do have a problem that the Bush Team deleted all 22 million emails and routinely scrubbed emails after 30 days rather then archiving it. I think Hillary was silly in using her own lawyers and DoS staff to determine which emails were not work related, and I have an issue that it appears others set her classified material they had removed from a classified system and failed to mark correctly on a non-classified system, but this would be true regardless if the system was her own server or the DoS one.

Unlike some here I actually understand how to run a computer server and an email system, and I don't bother getting involved much in the conversations because I like my head not hitting my desk with the astounding ignorance that is repeatedly shown about such things along with an utter lack of understanding on backup techniques.

If the Trumpkins fail to turn over emails about government business from their private accounts then the same goes for them.

The biggest issue I have though is that the GOP and its followers have spent years going on about the whole thing and digging into the minutia for some smoking gun, after doing the same thing, but on a worse scale, themselves.
 
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PhantomWolf said:
Unlike some here I actually understand how to run a computer server and an email system, and I don't bother getting involved much in the conversations because I like my head not hitting my desk with the astounding ignorance that is repeatedly shown about such things along with an utter lack of understanding on backup techniques.
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You run any FOIA response systems, maintain documents for production in the course of governmental investigations, systems for responding to subpoenas, handle classified data?

No? Well perhaps your experience does not translate then to Hillary's stunt, which she lied and lied and lied about.

As for myself, try them all... right after Hillary's trial is over.
 
NoahFence said:
Small time crook?

Jesus H Christ you people are idiots.
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What's Trump's biggest scam to date? Making some federal agencies pay rent at some of his properties? Pocket change.

Hillary Clinton probably earned more per month from Wall Street lobbyists during her tenure as a New York senator, than Trump will earn as a "landlord" over his entire term. Not to mention the millions her foundations raked in from foreign governments while she was secretary of state.

Federal politics is a whole other level of play, and frankly I don't think Trump's game is anywhere near good enough to compete with the establishment.
 
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His biggest scam is being president with Russia's help.
He's guilty of unfair rental practices based on race.
Guilty of duping gullible plastic patriots into thinking he cares about America.
Guilty of violating the emoluments clause.
Guilty of sexual harassment.

Would you like me to go on?
 
The Big Dog said:
You run any FOIA response systems, maintain documents for production in the course of governmental investigations, systems for responding to subpoenas, handle classified data?
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Nice switch there, and total non sequitur to boot, well done.

No? Well perhaps your experience does not translate then to Hillary's stunt, which she lied and lied and lied about.
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If lies disqualified a politician from office, there wouldn't be any left.

As for myself, try them all... right after Hillary's trial is over.
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Trouble with trying people for crimes, first you have to show that a crime was committed, and no, being sent classified information on a non-classified system is not a crime, otherwise there would be a lot of reporters in fail right now.
 
theprestige said:
Hillary Clinton probably earned more per month from Wall Street lobbyists during her tenure as a New York senator
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Nice weasel word

Not to mention the millions her foundations raked in from foreign governments while she was secretary of state.
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Except for the pesky facts like that she wasn't involved with the Foundation while SoS, and that the same Governments and People that were donating while she was SoS were the same ones that were donating when she wasn't SoS, and that the books have been gone through multiple times and there is zero evidence of personal gain from the foundation by any of the Clintons, but rather that they also gave money to it.

Unlike your hero Trump and his using his Foundation as a personal piggy bank to buy items that he them gave to his businesses, to pay off business fines, and to collect money from other charities so he could pass it alone and claim it was his, all while not putting anything into it himself.

Federal politics is a whole other level of play, and frankly I don't think Trump's game is anywhere near good enough to compete with the establishment.
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Trump doesn't a clue what he is doing, he thinks that you can run Government like a business and that he's a dictator like he in in his company. He think that all he has to do is demand something and it will happen.
 
NoahFence said:
His biggest scam is being president with Russia's help.
He's guilty of unfair rental practices based on race.
Guilty of duping gullible plastic patriots into thinking he cares about America.
Guilty of violating the emoluments clause.
Guilty of sexual harassment.

Would you like me to go on?
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But.. but.. her emails...
 
PhantomWolf said:
Nice switch there, and total non sequitur to boot, well done.



If lies disqualified a politician from office, there wouldn't be any left.



Trouble with trying people for crimes, first you have to show that a crime was committed, and no, being sent classified information on a non-classified system is not a crime, otherwise there would be a lot of reporters in fail right now.
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Switch? Wait, we were, well you were, talking about your experience in running a web server, which really has absolutely nothing at all to do with running the *********** state department through a home brew server that Hillary kept in her *********** basement.

The fact that you think my post was a non sequitur tells me that perhaps you are not following what the real issues are? Let me help you, you just called the real issues "non sequiturs." Hint, hint!
 
NoahFence said:
His biggest scam is being president with Russia's help.
He's guilty of unfair rental practices based on race.
Guilty of duping gullible plastic patriots into thinking he cares about America.
Guilty of violating the emoluments clause.
Guilty of sexual harassment.

Would you like me to go on?
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Hillary is done because of all those things? Wow she must suck harder than even I thought!
 
The Big Dog said:
Switch? Wait, we were, well you were, talking about your experience in running a web server, which really has absolutely nothing at all to do with running the *********** state department through a home brew server that Hillary kept in her *********** basement.
The fact that you think my post was a non sequitur tells me that perhaps you are not following what the real issues are? Let me help you, you just called the real issues "non sequiturs." Hint, hint!
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Keep it up TBD, everytime you go there you shout to the world about your ignorance.
 
The Big Dog said:
Cool! At least we put that ridiculous non sequitur nonsense behind us!

Regale us then with tales of how what I just wrote was wrong?

So excited!
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If I thought you were actually interested in learning something I might, but since you have had a lot of it explained to you by people that have even more experience in it that I do, and you refused to listen, why should I waste my time and energies? I gave up trying to teach Apollo Hoax Believers and 9/11 Truthers for that reason, I can't see the point in trying again.
 
PhantomWolf said:
If I thought you were actually interested in learning something I might, but since you have had a lot of it explained to you by people that have even more experience in it that I do, and you refused to listen, why should I waste my time and energies? I gave up trying to teach Apollo Hoax Believers and 9/11 Truthers for that reason, I can't see the point in trying again.
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Ha! Yeah no question. Just a question, was it the homebrew part or the fact she kept it in basement that you were going to "own" me on?

So fun!
 
Shalamar said:
What was the hardware used in the server? what software was it running? what was its connectivity?



How is the location important?
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He won't be able to answer adequately, or explain why these things are supposed to be issues, or in fact understand why an independent server can be more secure than a server farm or a government run server. He has it in his head that if it was in a basement and not being run by a company, it must be a rickety machine that you can hack cyberpunk style like they do in the movies.
 
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