Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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Skeptic Ginger said:
Another poll is posted on RCP with Sanders up 2. Silver hasn't updated his prediction yet. Still doesn't look like a blowout for Sanders.
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Well this is odd. Silver has updated his prediction but after adding in the CBS/YouGov poll that had Sanders up 2, instead of lowering Clinton's chance of winning, he upped it 1% to 52%.
 
I find it interesting that we want to judge people based on who they talk to and not what they actually do. That seems wrong to me. I talk to conservatives and libertarians all the time. Does anyone here think that makes me a conservative or libertarian?
 
Travis said:
I don't think you understand what the word "disingenuous" means.

There is nothing disingenuous in asking for substantiation that she is actually dishonest.
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dis·in·gen·u·ous
ˌdisənˈjenyo͞oəs/
adjective
adjective: disingenuous

not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.
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After all this time and all the Hillary threads you've participated in, if you don't know precisely why people think Hillary is a liar, and the evidence they are using to base that opinion on, you are being either disingenuous or you are just stupid. I do not think you are stupid.

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I ask why she's dishonest and all I get is weird Kafka logic "she's dishonest because people think she's dishonest" nonsense.
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Re-read the thread I guess?
 
mgidm86 said:
After all this time and all the Hillary threads you've participated in, if you don't know precisely why people think Hillary is a liar, and the evidence they are using to base that opinion on, you are being either disingenuous or you are just stupid.
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Let's not call each other stupid just yet.

How about the politico page comparing the candidates? Based on that she doesn't seem more dishonest than any other politician.
 
Argumemnon said:
Let's not call each other stupid just yet.

How about the politico page comparing the candidates? Based on that she doesn't seem more dishonest than any other [Democratic] politician.
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ftfy. The analysis found the GOP legislators to be quite a bit more dishonest than any of the Democrats.


The double standard being applied to Clinton is the result of the right wing pointing out every misstep of Clinton's as a pattern while ignoring that same pattern in every other politician.
 
Travis said:
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I ask why she's dishonest and all I get is weird Kafka logic "she's dishonest because people think she's dishonest" nonsense.
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Incorrect, again!
BRRRR...her comes the airplane, open wide!
During an introduction to a foreign policy speech on Iraq on March 17, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton reminisced about her days as first lady and a trip to Tuzla, Bosnia, she made in March 1996.

"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

But that's not what happened, as demonstrated by CBS News video that shows Clinton arriving on the tarmac under no visible duress, and greeting a child who offers her a copy of a poem. The Washington Post Factchecker also turned a skeptical eye on Clinton's comments, reporting that a review of more than 100 news stories from the time documented no security threats to the First Lady.
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Nuff said!
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You equated her rating with "all politicians" when in fact she was better than half the politicians on the chart.
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If I'm not mistaken, that chart referenced comments made since this election season began, not dating over the course of a long and illustrious carrier as a well documented pathological liar.
 
mgidm86 said:
After all this time and all the Hillary threads you've participated in, if you don't know precisely why people think Hillary is a liar, and the evidence they are using to base that opinion on, you are being either disingenuous or you are just stupid. I do not think you are stupid.



Re-read the thread I guess?
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It's like I'm Picard being asked how many lights there are.

People keep saying she's a liar. I don't recall her ever being a liar. I ask for evidence she is. People keep calling me names for asking.

Dog Town said:
Incorrect, again!
BRRRR...her comes the airplane, open wide!

Nuff said!
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So...this is it? At least someone finally pointed something out. It's not at all persuasive but at least someone put in some effort.
 
Travis said:
So...this is it? At least someone finally pointed something out. It's not at all persuasive but at least someone put in some effort.
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Is that lie not enough? There are many more! Do some BASIC research!
Shillaries are lost!
 
Argumemnon said:
I don't follow. Cruz and Trump and the others don't count?
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Once again I cannot figure out your disconnect. :boggled:

I've seen two charts, this is one of them. Clinton is down there on the bottom with Carson and Trump lying the most.

All of the Democrats are more truthful than all of the Republicans except Jeb Bush. You lumped them altogether.

The other had a similar result.
 
Mike! said:
If I'm not mistaken, that chart referenced comments made since this election season began, not dating over the course of a long and illustrious carrier as a well documented pathological liar.
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You are mistaken given the charts include Bill Clinton, also accused of dishonestly and also more honest than any Republican 2016 candidates.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Once again I cannot figure out your disconnect. :boggled:

I've seen two charts, this is one of them. Clinton is down there on the bottom with Carson and Trump lying the most.

All of the Democrats are more truthful than all of the Republicans except Jeb Bush. You lumped them altogether.

The other had a similar result.
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According to Politifact, a non-partisan statement-analyzing group based in a right-of-center state, Hillary is the most truthful of all the candidates, including Bernie Sanders.
 
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