Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

[sunmaster14]

With apologies to Yakov Smirnoff, Hillary Clinton is not in pocket of big money. Big money is in pocket of Hillary Clinton.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

With apologies to Yakov Smirnoff, Hillary Clinton is not in pocket of big money. Big money is in pocket of Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, and good for her conning money out of those people.

You know there is another way to frame this whole nonsense.

First, these companies give way more to GOP candidates than Democratic candidates.

Second, given the slate of GOP POTUS nominees, it could be big business just wants to support a candidate that isn't going to totally disrupt commerce and the stability of the country.

 

[The_Animus]

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I ask why she's dishonest and all I get is weird Kafka logic "she's dishonest because people think she's dishonest" nonsense.

That's not what I said but its always nice to have what I've said validated. Keep up that disingenuous posting.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

That's not what I said but its always nice to have what I've said validated. Keep up that disingenuous posting.

How about you make a quick short sweet list of a couple things so we can evaluate the facts. Is it a false statement here or there? A crime she's not been indicted on? What are the key reasons Clinton garners the incredibly negative emotions of the HDSers?

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Clinton Tries To Remind New Yorkers How Much They Liked Her As Senator

It was that sort of personal, constituent-focused outreach that won over a skeptical state when she ran for Senate in 2000 and tried to shed a carpetbagger image...

Clinton ended up winning over many upstate New York voters, depriving her Republican opponent of the votes he needed to beat her in the part of the state that is traditionally more conservative.

“She is going to be making a larger case here,” Sullivan added Thursday. “And that larger case is built on the proposition that she believes she is the only candidate in the race...

But Sanders isn’t going to give up New York without a fight. He was born in Brooklyn, and the state has a strong base of progressives who are drawn to his message. The Sanders campaign also believes that his economic message could resonate with the voters who have seen jobs disappear in the state. In recent days, Sanders has cut steadily into Clinton’s lead.

 

[catsmate]

You really think "running away" characterizes Sanders begging Clinton to 'give him another debate, pretty please, but don't mind my negative campaign', and Clinton responding with 'if you want another debate, little man, you should stop the negative stuff'? This really makes Sanders looks bad.

The Republicans are desperate; they know they have almost no chance of winning the presidency in November and are also looking at serious Congressional and Senate losses to. All down to the party's stupidity.
Hence the stink of despair emanating from certain posters.

 

[catsmate]

Also, can someone finally tell me why she's a "liar"? I've been asking and getting zilch. I highly suspect this is just echo chamber feedback.

Projection. Republicans politicians have to lie about everything. And so they assume that everybody is as dishonest as they are.

This.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

How Much Does Chelsea Clinton Get Paid In Speaking Fees?

Like mother, like daughter? At this point, it's no secret that former President Bill Clinton and his now-candidate wife, Hillary, have made some expensive speeches. Less talked about is the going rate for an appearance by the couple's only daughter, Chelsea. So just how much does Chelsea Clinton get paid in speaking fees?

According to a Forbes/Statista report, which estimates Chelsea's speaking fees at $75,000 for a 20 minute speech, the former first daughter falls just outside the top 10 highest-paid political speakers.

 

[jhunter1163]

How Much Does Chelsea Clinton Get Paid In Speaking Fees?

Like mother, like daughter? At this point, it's no secret that former President Bill Clinton and his now-candidate wife, Hillary, have made some expensive speeches. Less talked about is the going rate for an appearance by the couple's only daughter, Chelsea. So just how much does Chelsea Clinton get paid in speaking fees?

According to a Forbes/Statista report, which estimates Chelsea's speaking fees at $75,000 for a 20 minute speech, the former first daughter falls just outside the top 10 highest-paid political speakers.

And we should care because....?

 

[Slings and Arrows]

And we should care because....?

Paid speeches are now emerging as the central line of attack in an increasingly bitter primary clash with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Mr. Sanders has argued that Mrs. Clinton is too personally beholden to Wall Street to effectively rein in the industry’s excesses.

 

[sunmaster14]

And we should care because....?

Because it probably is a very subtle form of bribery. I can't imagine Chelsea has anything interesting to say, but no doubt it makes Hillary happy, maybe even grateful, to see her daughter "earn" $75,000 for a brief speech.

Chelsea's husband, by the way, is a deeply connected Wall Street guy. I vaguely knew him actually. Officially he was my group's sales coverage for emerging market bonds when he was at Goldman Sachs. I barely ever talked to him, though, because it only made sense to trade with Goldman Sachs if you wanted to lose money (and I didn't).

 

[Roger Ramjets]

According to a Forbes/Statista report, which estimates Chelsea's speaking fees at $75,000 for a 20 minute speech, the former first daughter falls just outside the top 10 highest-paid political speakers.

How Much Can You Charge For Speaking?

1. If you charge less than $10K per speech, speaker bureaus won’t be very interested in you.

How much should you charge?

The answer is complicated because of the interplay between your status – how well you’re known, how much demand there is for your speaking – the budget for the event, and a third aspect you might not have thought about: the perception of quality.

2. The fee you charge becomes a perception of quality – and that’s the most important aspect. A typical conference budget for 500 people and two days is on the order of $1.5M to $2.0M. A keynote speaker as a line item in that budget is less than a coffee break.

Mr. Sanders has argued that Mrs. Clinton is too personally beholden to Wall Street to effectively rein in the industry’s excesses.

A responsible statesman works with industry leaders, not against them. Mr. Sanders is a self-styled 'socialist' who wants to destroy our economic system. I'm sure there is nothing he would like better than to see Wall Street crash and burn - taking the whole country down with it. Then he will have his 'revolution'...

 

[Travis]

That's not what I said but its always nice to have what I've said validated. Keep up that disingenuous posting.

I don't think you understand what the word "disingenuous" means.

There is nothing disingenuous in asking for substantiation that she is actually dishonest.

 

[jhunter1163]

Paid speeches are now emerging as the central line of attack in an increasingly bitter primary clash with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Mr. Sanders has argued that Mrs. Clinton is too personally beholden to Wall Street to effectively rein in the industry’s excesses.

And Mrs. Chelsea Clinton is not running for President.

 

[jhunter1163]

Because it probably is a very subtle form of bribery. I can't imagine Chelsea has anything interesting to say, but no doubt it makes Hillary happy, maybe even grateful, to see her daughter "earn" $75,000 for a brief speech.

Her father is a former President, her mother is a former Senator and former Secretary of State (and very likely to be President in a few months), and she has nothing interesting to say?

 

[The Big Dog]

And Mrs. Chelsea Clinton is not running for President.

Hillary's campaign has sent her out to nibble at Bernies toes like a rat. As such, she is fair game.

Plus she was running the Clinton family foundation when they had Sid blumenthal cutting pasting NSA top secret intelligence into emails to Hillary.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Loras College Poll finds Clinton up by 6 in WI. Not sure of the validity, it's not listed on 538's pollster rating.

But it was enough to make Silver bump Clinton barely ahead in his WI prediction.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Because it probably is a very subtle form of bribery. I can't imagine Chelsea has anything interesting to say, but no doubt it makes Hillary happy, maybe even grateful, to see her daughter "earn" $75,000 for a brief speech.

Chelsea's husband, by the way, is a deeply connected Wall Street guy. I vaguely knew him actually. Officially he was my group's sales coverage for emerging market bonds when he was at Goldman Sachs. I barely ever talked to him, though, because it only made sense to trade with Goldman Sachs if you wanted to lose money (and I didn't).

Chelsea's husband works for Goldman Sachs. Ted Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sachs. Bill and Hillary have received exorbitant speaking fees from Goldman Sachs.

56 senators and 219 house members are also feeding at the Goldman Sachs trough (republicans and democrats alike).

With nearly everyone on the take, Bernie, should he somehow manage to get elected president, will find it next to impossible to clean up the mess.

 

[sunmaster14]

Chelsea's husband works for Goldman Sachs. Ted Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sachs. Bill and Hillary have received exorbitant speaking fees from Goldman Sachs.

56 senators and 219 house members are also feeding at the Goldman Sachs trough (republicans and democrats alike).

With nearly everyone on the take, Bernie, should he somehow manage to get elected president, will find it next to impossible to clean up the mess.

Mezvinsky hasn't worked for Goldman since he married Chelsea. Marriage into the Clinton family gave him the clout and money to start his own hedge fund. You can only imagine the kinds of quid pro quos he's benefited from.

 

[sunmaster14]

Great article by John Podhoretz making an analogy between Clinton and the Godfather.

Hillary Clinton lost her temper the other day. She said she was “sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me.” It’s hard to believe that this is what she’s sick of — since Sanders is, without question, the gentlest opposition candidate any front-runner has faced in the history of American politics.

The truth is likely this: She’s sick, all right — sick of having to run against Sanders.

...

Stranger things have happened than Bernie toppling Hillary at this point. Trump, for example.

If they’re not, though, watch how the Godmother plays the long game. She will be loving and accepting and full of praise and admiration for Sanders and his supporters at her convention coronation. It will be like the meeting of the Five Families, when Vito Corleone agrees to share the political wealth with his fellow Dons.

Then say she wins the presidency — and at that point, the Godmother will settle all family business. It won’t be pretty. My advice to America’s leftist activists would be to avoid all massage tables, lest they meet Moe Greene’s fate. And if Sanders then asks Huma Abedin if she “can help me out, for old times’ sake,” Hillary’s consigliere will answer, “Can’t do it, Bernie.”