Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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theprestige said:
It's not sexist at all: I feel exactly the same way about Bill.
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Yeah? What about Sanders' years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates including an annual fundraiser in the Hampton's?

And care to point out your condemnation of GW Bush speaking fees?

Being sexist doesn't mean it's the only reason people are attacked politically, but it is clearly adding to the demonizing of Clinton.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Yeah? What about Sanders' years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates including an annual fundraiser in the Hampton's?
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Sanders' years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates
Sanders' years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates
Sanders' years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates
Sanders' years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates
......years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates
......fundraising for the Democratic candidates
......for the Democratic candidates


Cripes....
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Yeah? What about Sanders' years of fundraising for the Democratic candidates including an annual fundraiser in the Hampton's?
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The important distinction here is not that Hillary is a woman and Bernie is not (which would be sexist); but that Hillary is a Clinton and Bernie is not (which is an entirely different kind of prejudice).

You want to try something fun? Draw an equivalence between Clinton's tenure at state and Rice's tenure at State, and I'll show you that not only am I not sexist, I'm not racist either.
 
theprestige said:
The important distinction here is not that Hillary is a woman and Bernie is not (which would be sexist); but that Hillary is a Clinton and Bernie is not (which is an entirely different kind of prejudice).

You want to try something fun? Draw an equivalence between Clinton's tenure at state and Rice's tenure at State, and I'll show you that not only am I not sexist, I'm not racist either.
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That the speaking fees are being called outrageous is only being applied to Hillary. In all the other cases news articles and op eds merely note how much wealth ex-politicians are accumulating via speaking fees.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
That the speaking fees are being called outrageous is only being applied to Hillary.
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The first reference to "outrageous" fees in this thread is by you:

Skeptic Ginger said:
Sanders likes to make it sound like that was some outrageous overpayment, but it was not unusual for a former Sec of State to get paid $200,000+ for a speech.
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Then there's a couple people quoting the above post in reply, but not themselves calling the fees outrageous. Then there's a couple more times that you repeat the idea that her fees are being called "outrageous".

Who's actually calling her fees outrageous? Maybe if you gave an example, we could see if they're being sexist, or just don't like the Clintons.
 
16.5 said:
JUST IN: Clinton camp warns: No more Dem debates unless Sanders changes "tone" http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...de-new-york-debate-depends-on-tone-of-sanders

God damn, if she wins the nomination, the Republicans are going to eat her for breakfast.
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Was just going to post this. She's channeling Trump now. Fox news is being mean so I'm not gonna debate. Sanders is being mean so I'm not gonna debate. Nevermind that in the debates she repeatedly talks over both Sanders and the Moderators.

Oh and back in 2008 she said; "...you should be willing to debate, any time, anywhere"

Don't worry though, she just evolved on the issue ;)

ETA: I can't seem to get the embedded video to start at the right spot like it does when not embedded. Start at about 44 seconds in. If anyone knows how to do this for the future please let me know!
ETAA: Video now starts at 44 seconds in
 
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The_Animus said:
Was just going to post this. She's channeling Trump now. Fox news is being mean so I'm not gonna debate. Sanders is being mean so I'm not gonna debate. Nevermind that in the debates she repeatedly talks over both Sanders and the Moderators.

Oh and back in 2008 she said; "...you should be willing to debate, any time, anywhere"

Don't worry though, she just evolved on the issue ;)

ETA: I can't seem to get the embedded video to start at the right spot like it does when not embedded. Start at about 44 seconds in. If anyone knows how to do this for the future please let me know!

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Use "start" instead of "t".
 
What really is left to debate? I really fail to see the value in more debates. Personally I feel we've already had way too many.
 
Also, can someone finally tell me why she's a "liar"? I've been asking and getting zilch. I highly suspect this is just echo chamber feedback.
 
Travis said:
Also, can someone finally tell me why she's a "liar"? I've been asking and getting zilch. I highly suspect this is just echo chamber feedback.
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Projection. Republicans politicians have to lie about everything. And so they assume that everybody is as dishonest as they are.
 
Travis said:
Also, can someone finally tell me why she's a "liar"? I've been asking and getting zilch. I highly suspect this is just echo chamber feedback.
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Well if anyone else is like me, your question comes across as disingenuous. There are examples abounds in this forum, and either you don't care to read through the couple Hillary threads to find them, or more likely, you've already read through them and ignored them or disagree with them.
 
The_Animus said:
Was just going to post this. She's channeling Trump now. Fox news is being mean so I'm not gonna debate. Sanders is being mean so I'm not gonna debate. Nevermind that in the debates she repeatedly talks over both Sanders and the Moderators.

Oh and back in 2008 she said; "...you should be willing to debate, any time, anywhere"

Don't worry though, she just evolved on the issue ;)

ETA: I can't seem to get the embedded video to start at the right spot like it does when not embedded. Start at about 44 seconds in. If anyone knows how to do this for the future please let me know!
ETAA: Video now starts at 44 seconds in
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In 2008, at this point in the race, Clinton was the underdog. She had to try to get debates to win support. Now, that shoe is on Sanders foot. He's trying to get another debate in just to try to turn around the bad polling he's showing in NY (and NJ, and PA, and MD, and CA, etc), but this clearly shows who is calling the shots at this point in the race.
 
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