Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

[sunmaster14]

If you can't see or can't admit to the double standard, that seems to me to be the ultimate in confirmation bias.

I posted a link comparing apples to apples. If you want to cherry pick her fumbling the email matter then you need to compare that to the others fumbling their own issues like, Sanders lying to his followers that he is confident he can win.

How about giving an example of this double standard which Hillary has been subjected to? Just one.

 

[RobRoy]

How about giving an example of this double standard which Hillary has been subjected to? Just one.

Perhaps something like all the coverage over her $600 haircut?

 

[sunmaster14]

Perhaps something like all the coverage over her $600 haircut?

Page 6? Really? I never even heard this story before. Regardless, causing traffic jams, just so you can get a haircut is really rude. IIRC, Obama was criticized for blocking traffic in DC when he stopped for a photo op, and Hillary's husband was severely criticized for blocking airport traffic in order to get a haircut on Air Force One. I think John Edwards was mocked for getting expensive haircuts too.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

How about giving an example of this double standard which Hillary has been subjected to? Just one.

Off the top of my head: she's been criticized for "shouting" in her speeches. Sanders who shouts all the time wasn't.

If you were honest, you would have looked into it yourself instead of making this ludicrous challenge of reality.

The sexist double standards hurting Hillary Clinton

She doesn’t connect. She isn’t likeable. She doesn’t inspire. She seems shrill. “She shouts,” Bob Woodward said on MSNBC this month, also suggesting she “get off this screaming stuff.”

Joe Scarborough, the host, agreed: “Has nobody told her that the microphone works?”

Campaigning While Female also deprives Clinton of the ability to make lofty promises. Sanders, for example, has a $15 trillion non-starter of a health-care plan. If Clinton floated such a plan, the media would mock it as patently absurd. But Sanders gets a pass.

... It’s also hard to imagine a male candidate being faulted for his wife’s misbehavior the way Clinton is blamed for her husband’s.

She's also frequently belittled as having no accomplishments of her own, she's only where she is because of her husband's accomplishments.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Clinton's getting accolades for her foreign policy speech today. I missed it and have only seen the clips where she absolutely trashes Trump.

Clinton Roasts Trump in Foreign Policy Speech: The 13 Biggest Zingers



First Tweet: Clinton can't read and isn't presidential.

Come on Donald, you can do better than that.

 

[sunmaster14]

Off the top of my head: she's been criticized for "shouting" in her speeches. Sanders who shouts all the time wasn't.

If you were honest, you would have looked into it yourself instead of making this ludicrous challenge of reality.

The sexist double standards hurting Hillary Clinton


She's also frequently belittled as having no accomplishments of her own, she's only where she is because of her husband's accomplishments.

Oh please. That shouting meme was started by Hillary herself. She tried to accuse Bernie of being sexist for using the word quite innocuously with respect to her attacks on his tepid support for gun rights. That's pretty pathetic that the first example you can find is one which Hillary manufactured in order to lob baseless accusations of sexism against her challenger.

 

[xjx388]

Off the top of my head: she's been criticized for "shouting" in her speeches. Sanders who shouts all the time wasn't.

And Howard Dean was criticized (and run off the campaign for one enthusiastic whoop.

I don't find Hillary likable while I do find Bernie likable. It's just a personality thing. When she speaks, I don't like her tone and tenor. I also don't like listening to Trump speak. I don't find him likable either. He comes off as boorish and arrogant.

Isn't it possible that sexism isn't really a factor in most people's dislike of Hillary?

 

[Donal]

In what was suppsoed to be her big policy statement and an outline of her foreign policy, the gist of Hillary's speech was "I'm not Trump". And sadly, that will be enough to get her elected.

 

[wareyin]

How about giving an example of this double standard which Hillary has been subjected to? Just one.

Well, we could compare Powell using Gmail for SoS email vs Clinton using a personal server. Both had top secret Intel, which one got the congressional investigation leading to fbi investigation again?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Oh please. ....

Why do you bother asking people for examples and/or evidence you simply discount with a hand wave?

More importantly, why do I bother? I will re-remind myself.

 

[wareyin]

Why do you bother asking people for examples and/or evidence you simply discount with a hand wave?

More importantly, why do I bother? I will re-remind myself.

Yeah, no worries. Clinton needs 71-91 more delegates (depending on your source) out of 900+. She is going to be the nominee, and if her speech today is any indication, Trump is done/drumpf.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

And Howard Dean was criticized (and run off the campaign for one enthusiastic whoop.

I don't find Hillary likable while I do find Bernie likable. It's just a personality thing. When she speaks, I don't like her tone and tenor. I also don't like listening to Trump speak. I don't find him likable either. He comes off as boorish and arrogant.

Isn't it possible that sexism isn't really a factor in most people's dislike of Hillary?

Are there people who don't like Clinton? Of course. Believe it or not there are people that dislike Sanders.

That doesn't mean sexism isn't an undercurrent that affects many peoples' perception, that is overwhelmingly evident.

I suppose you and sunmaster14 also deny there was any racism affecting how many people perceived Obama.

It's one thing to look at the sexism and racism honestly and discuss how much it does or does not impact election outcomes. But dismissing is out of hand only shows bias and ignorance.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

In what was suppsoed to be her big policy statement and an outline of her foreign policy, the gist of Hillary's speech was "I'm not Trump". And sadly, that will be enough to get her elected.

Wrong. The gist was, Trump is a loony, open your eyes.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

She's also frequently belittled as having no accomplishments of her own, she's only where she is because of her husband's accomplishments.

To be fair, Crooked Hillary can take full credit for at least three major accomplishments during the past 40 years she has spent as a career politician.

1) On October 11, 2002, Crooked Hillary voted in favor of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq, commonly known as the Iraq War Resolution, to give the President authority for the Iraq War.

2) In September, 2012, she managed to temporarily convince the public that the Benghazi attack (which occurred on her watch) was a spontaneous protest triggered by an anti-Muslim video. And when her far-fetched story fell apart she callously and coldly replied:

"What difference, at this point, does it make?"​

3) She has amassed an immense (could easily fill a warehouse) collection of frumpy, unstylish, and outdated pantsuits -- envied by geriatrics the world over.

Apart from that, she hasn't accomplished a single thing -- aside from regularly feeding at the public trough and participating in running up $19 trillion in debt.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Google is now censoring "crooked Hillary" from the instant predictions results.

Oh really? And you know this how?

 

[The_Animus]

Oh really? And you know this how?

Isn't the most searched for or trending thing supposed to show up first? I don't know enough about how it works to be certain about anything but there is reason to see it as a bit suspect.

Crooked Hillary doesn't even come up until you get to "crooked hil" in the search and even then the result is "crooked hillary bernie", which doesn't make a lot of sense.

crooked hill road
crooked highway
crooked horn
crooked hairline
crooked heart
crooked house

Their algorithm really prioritizes these search terms over crooked hillary?

By comparison just putting in "ly" brings up "lying ted" as the first result. and "li" brings up "little marco" as the first result.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I think the 'crooked hillary-Google search' nonsense belongs in the CT forum.

 

[wareyin]

Isn't the most searched for or trending thing supposed to show up first? I don't know enough about how it works to be certain about anything but there is reason to see it as a bit suspect.

Crooked Hillary doesn't even come up until you get to "crooked hil" in the search and even then the result is "crooked hillary bernie", which doesn't make a lot of sense.

crooked hill road
crooked highway
crooked horn
crooked hairline
crooked heart
crooked house

Their algorithm really prioritizes these search terms over crooked hillary?

By comparison just putting in "ly" brings up "lying ted" as the first result. and "li" brings up "little marco" as the first result.

How often do you search for Trump's "witticisms"? That may affect your personalized google search results.

 

[The_Animus]

How often do you search for Trump's "witticisms"? That may affect your personalized google search results.

Never. This was the first time.

Oddly enough doing the same thing 15 minutes later and now I need "lyi" for lying ted to come up, and "little ma" for little marco.

In other words searching for those same things 15 minutes later and googles results changed.

 

[Mike!]

Don't take my word for it, or The_Animus, or Wildcat ether.
Do this yourself.
Go to Google.com
Try typing in, crooked Hillary Clinton, slowly, and simply pay attention to what suggestions are offered as you go through typing in crooked Hillary Clinton.
Honestly report back the results of what you see.
I, for one, was genuinely surprised at what was suggested.