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Hi everyone this is my very first conspiracy post

This is a joke, right? Did I miss the sarcasm smiley? Cuz if it's real, it's the dumbest thing put to words I've ever read.

It's a joke....

TT isn't a real truther, but he kind of plays one here at JREF.

He uses slight exaggeration (and sometimes it isn't even an exaggeration) to show how ridiculous the truthers positions are....

I actually find TTs posts to be among the funniest in this sub forum.

Keep up the good work TT :)
 
Welcome Crazy J!

Hokulele is crazy! We haven't had cookies in months! Some fat cat (AHEM NWO Kitty AHEM) keeps eating them, along with the milk. So, if you want something, you'll have to go to the lounge on the 10th floor, next to Fire services. (Come visit me if you ever need a fire to look like a controlled demolition. We've done it a few times, so we should be good to go)

Get a key to the building from HR. Go with Shill, stooge implies some kind of TV star for some reason.

Welcome to the dark side!!

Mr. TriforCharity
Director - Fire demolition services
Sector 7
 
I started reading the JREF-forum many years ago but didn't join until just about a month ago. I don't remember exactly what brought me here, but I do know that it was the Conspiracy subforum, and especially the 9/11 section, that kept me comming back.

My story has some similarities with the OPs. I started reading about these conspiracy theories regarding 9/11 many years ago, and allthough i didn't fully beleive them, I was still bothered by some of the claims and figured there were at least good reasons to doubt the official story. And I was quite a bit anti-Bush as well. Comming to this forum, following discussions and checking out links to resources of facts, I quickly learned that these theories were nonsense, and many, if not most, of the "facts" that I had been bothered about were simply not true.

Another thing I have learned from reading here at the JREF-forum is the value of doing background research and to look critically at sources. One thing that gets me about truthers is that many of them seem to have a lot of information regarding 9/11, except, it's all just wrong. So, it's not that they won't do any research, it's that they won't look at the real facts and use reliable sources. Since those two are integral for serious research, their efforts fail already at the research stage. And when they start drawing their conclusions, it only gets worse. But then again, this sort of research failiure can probably be attributed to most conspiracy theorists. Apparently, there is this thing called confirmation bias.:D

But, again, this forum is a great resource for those who want to learn the real facts about 9/11, and I too, would like to thank all of you who have made it, and continue to make it what it is. Considering how effective people around here have been at debunking truther "facts", I'm amazed that people still bother to come here and argue the other side. But at least it makes for good entertainment. Keep up the good work!
 
Hey guys wuz up. I'm a former believer in 9/11 conspiracy theories. They were so easy to believe given all that has been going on since the tragic attacks of 9/11. I never believed in such theories and for a long time I simply didn't care for them. But then I looked at them in 2006 and was convinced. Many of their arguments seemed very well researched. Others were simply questions that simply needed to be answered and yet the government never did a fine job of doing so. Add that to the fact that I just can't stand Bush. I hate his guts with a passion so it made it easier for me to believe in them. Looking back it's ironic that the man who told us never to tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories is also the man responsible for fueling them more than anybody. But then something happened.

I was made aware of Mackey's papere on "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" of the collapses. From there I was made aware of Mark Roberts which led me to his site and led to other sites. Until July of this year I never even knew there was a debunking movement. I looked at the websites and found that many of the so called facts were not facts but nothing but speculations and assumptions. People who were supposed truth seekers were a bunch of liars and hypocrites. And that there are perfectly reasonable and rational explanations to all of these questions. Conspiracy theorists, however, don't look for them and really don't care for them for the simple fact that it doesn't benefit their agenda.

As I look back I think about how stupid I was in believing such nonsense. It's easy to believe in something when someone is hated as much as Bush. In fact, I firmly believe that alot of people in the movement don't believe in this crap. They just don't like George Bush. They want to bring him down by any means necessary. And because they do, the things that they accuse the government of, they're the ones who have been proving of doing it (faking evidence, omissions, contradictions, lack of evidence...etc).

I don't know what's going to happen in the future but I stop believing in this crap. Hopefully I will be able to convince gullible peolple that 9/11 was not an inside job. It was, as Clinton, an Osama bin Laden job. To all of the debunkers (especially Mackey, Roberts, and Williams) thanks and keep it up. We can't let these truther idiots change what happened on 9/11.

It almost makes me wanna cry when I see another one of us former truthers make it out of that dark tunnel. I followed the EXACT SAME path you did to here man. Congrats, and welcome to the world of rational thought!!!

Its next to impossible to convince the really commited truthers of what really happened and you'll have some problems there. I'm still trying to convince my friend Boston that the towers didn't fall at free fall and all that other nonsense.

Your BEST piece of evidence is showing them pictures of the BACKSIDE of WTC7 and giving them those Daniel Nigro quotes
 
There is nothing more moving then a sinner come to repentence.

Now if Charlie Sheen would admit he was wrong, but I am not holding my breath.....
 
Welcome Crazy J. I don't think I would call it a "debunking movement", but we do have cookies.

At least I think we have cookies. I could have sworn I put them in the budget request.

*Rummages through papers*

NWO Lost & Found Department
Western and Slightly North Division

Hokulele,

An e-mail was sent to you and your superior two weeks ago regarding your consistent disregard of the purchase order process.

P.O.#'s 100911001, 09112010, 362436, were all rejected, yet I received packing slips and invoices for 46 boxes of Thin Mints. As noted above, we are in contingency mode. Further attempts at circumventing proper procedure will result in yet another labotomy. If you have forgotten what the results look like, allow me to remind you:

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Thank you for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.

Warmest Regards,

- Mr. Herbert

NWO Director of Finance
Northeast Division
 
Hey guys wuz up. I'm a former believer in 9/11 conspiracy theories. They were so easy to believe given all that has been going on since the tragic attacks of 9/11. I never believed in such theories and for a long time I simply didn't care for them. But then I looked at them in 2006 and was convinced. Many of their arguments seemed very well researched. Others were simply questions that simply needed to be answered and yet the government never did a fine job of doing so. Add that to the fact that I just can't stand Bush. I hate his guts with a passion so it made it easier for me to believe in them. Looking back it's ironic that the man who told us never to tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories is also the man responsible for fueling them more than anybody. But then something happened.

I was made aware of Mackey's papere on "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" of the collapses. From there I was made aware of Mark Roberts which led me to his site and led to other sites. Until July of this year I never even knew there was a debunking movement. I looked at the websites and found that many of the so called facts were not facts but nothing but speculations and assumptions. People who were supposed truth seekers were a bunch of liars and hypocrites. And that there are perfectly reasonable and rational explanations to all of these questions. Conspiracy theorists, however, don't look for them and really don't care for them for the simple fact that it doesn't benefit their agenda.

As I look back I think about how stupid I was in believing such nonsense. It's easy to believe in something when someone is hated as much as Bush. In fact, I firmly believe that alot of people in the movement don't believe in this crap. They just don't like George Bush. They want to bring him down by any means necessary. And because they do, the things that they accuse the government of, they're the ones who have been proving of doing it (faking evidence, omissions, contradictions, lack of evidence...etc).

I don't know what's going to happen in the future but I stop believing in this crap. Hopefully I will be able to convince gullible peolple that 9/11 was not an inside job. It was, as Clinton, an Osama bin Laden job. To all of the debunkers (especially Mackey, Roberts, and Williams) thanks and keep it up. We can't let these truther idiots change what happened on 9/11.



That is a very introspective post. VERY few people have the ability to do what you have done. I never was a truther.... I was more into the end of the world stuff...... astrology...... and believed tiny little classified ads would make me rich ... but I was only 16 or 17 then.... I grew out of it and so did you.



You did touch on a point I kind of think of too. And that is... most truthers don't believe this crap. And then I see a guy like Jon Gold and think..... of course he's a truther.... Why wouldn't he be? Otherwise he's just be a fat loser.... and least by peddling this junk he can be a fat looser that's adored by other losers..... why not?
 

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