Help with precogniton

[The 3rd eye]

Iv been having the feeling of daja vu since I can remember and as Iv got hen older it has become more often and stronger more than just daja vu. Now when these events happen its as if iv seen, heard and felt the same before even thou iv never been in these places or been thinking of this thing before. Its not so much what im seeing hearing or feeling but as how long it lasts. Iv had ‘’daja vu’’ last for 4-5seconds and even events were I felt what was going to happen next. Ones were iv said out ‘’daja vu’’ and just as iv said it I realize that by saying daja vu it was creating another daja vu ( hope you under stand that ) And over the years iv found that its related to my dreams. This has been happening to me from when I was small so iv been used to it and its never effected my life directly. So IV never felt the need to get to the bottom of what’s going on in my head. Till now, hence the forum.

You see I had a dream about eight months ago that when id have my friends over to MY house that something negative would happen. Now when I had the dream I was still living with my parent and had no need or plans to move out of home. As part of my collage course I do a work placement program so 6 months ago it was necessary for me to move out. So after I had moved out and finished work for the week I was going to have my friends over to have a few beers and watch a few movies. Now in remembering the dream I had I decided that the first night I could have my friends over that I would wait. Just to be sure as to nothing would happen and to have it the next day seemed to close for comfort as well. So I decide that id have them over on the third day. Now with out going into what happened that night I assure you that it was a negative thing that happened and what made it worse was the fact I first had a dream about it warning me and I also took action to avoid the event and yet it still happened.. An apparent paradox. It has been the first time that my ‘’déjà vu’’ precognition’’ has ever directly affected my life. You see up to that point I had always believed that in was my brain just gliching or chemicals going to the wrong part witch caused this feeling but I had the dream and I had remembered it also I had purposely taken action to avoided the event by waiting two days.

Ever since that night I cant stop thinking about it and when I do I just end up having’’ daja uv witch makes my think of that night and the other drams iv had.

And this is not the only screwed up thing in my life. One time I was cycling home from school with a friend and as we went or different way I have an over whelming feeling that my friend was in danger. Now as I had no dream to relate this danger and to act apon what ever comes in to my head is a sure way to the crazy house I did not pursue my friend. As it happened a car hit my friend, thankfully only a broken arm a few broses. I am now thorn between what my being told by my dreams and feelings and then the choice to act or not.

So now after 21 years i am forced to belive in precognition
So this forum is an attempt to get to the bottom as it were. I seek people who believe they have precognitive dreams or know they have precognitive dreams.

Since what has happened that night IV been righting down the dreams I feel are precognitive. But its not enough to sit and watch I need more so if you think there’s something I should know or you feel you have something to say please feel free to do so.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I seek people who believe they have precognitive dreams or know they have precognitive dreams.

You're in the wrong forum, bubba.

If you'd like to see if you really have your claimed superpowers, however, feel free to fill out an application for the paranormal challenge.

 

[Rasmus]

It has been the first time that my ‘’déjà vu’’ precognition’’ has ever directly affected my life. You see up to that point I had always believed that in was my brain just gliching or chemicals going to the wrong part witch caused this feeling but I had the dream and I had remembered it also I had purposely taken action to avoided the event by waiting two days.

Self-fulfilling prophecy

You were nervous about inviting your friends, and, surprise, surprise, the meeting didn't turn out good at all. (If I was paranoid I would suggest that you already started pissing your friends off when you didn't invite them the first night around...)

Ever since that night I cant stop thinking about it and when I do I just end up having’’ daja uv witch makes my think of that night and the other drams iv had.

Those are thoughts about the past. How are they deja vus - other than that you are thinking the same things over and over again?

And this is not the only screwed up thing in my life. One time I was cycling home from school with a friend and as we went or different way I have an over whelming feeling that my friend was in danger. Now as I had no dream to relate this danger and to act apon what ever comes in to my head is a sure way to the crazy house I did not pursue my friend. As it happened a car hit my friend, thankfully only a broken arm a few broses. I am now thorn between what my being told by my dreams and feelings and then the choice to act or not.

There are many possible reasons here. It could have been a lousy coincidence. You might be guilty of remembering your hits and forgetting the misses. I.e. how many times did you have similar feelings and nothing spectacular happened at all? Maybe subconsciously you picked up on some subtle difference in the ways your friend behaved that day. (Perhaps he was a little sick, or in a slight hurry, overly hungry or anything else that might let people make mistakes in traffic. Or, perhaps, there was just more traffic than usual that day ...)

So now after 21 years i am forced to belive in precognition

Because in your life you had all of two events that seem a little odd? (At least one of which is easily explained, with the other having at least plausible explanations?)

So this forum is an attempt to get to the bottom as it were. I seek people who believe they have precognitive dreams or know they have precognitive dreams.

Sorry, I can't help you there. If that is what you really want, you are probably in the wrong forum alltogether. But, please, stay a little longer. People here will most certainly be able to help you to get to the bottom of things - it might just turn out that there's nothing special at the bottom. But if you are interested in finding out the truth, this is a good place. (And, hey, if you're actually right, you'll get tons of money, too...)

Since what has happened that night IV been righting down the dreams I feel are precognitive. But its not enough to sit and watch I need more so if you think there’s something I should know or you feel you have something to say please feel free to do so.

It's a good start. Very scientific. You might want to write down all your dreams, though. (Just in case some of them are prophetic even though they might not feel that way right after you wake up.)

Then be very precise in what you write down and how you assess things.

"Things will go wrong the very first time I invite people to my own place" is a precise prediction and can be easily verified. "I fear something bad will happen some time in some grocery store" is not very precise. Chances are that in your remaining years something bad will happen whilst you are shopping for groceries. The place might be robbed whilst you are there, or maybe you run into a pyramid of cans and knock it over or - if it comes to the worst - they are out of beer ...

 

[The 3rd eye]

You're in the wrong forum, bubba.

If you'd like to see if you really have your claimed superpowers, however, feel free to fill out an application for the paranormal challenge.

Ya ur right, what was i thinking, a forum related to the paranormal what does that have to do with precognition ?

 

[The 3rd eye]

You were nervous about inviting your friends, and, surprise, surprise, the meeting didn't turn out good at all. (If I was paranoid I would suggest that you already started pissing your friends off when you didn't invite them the first night around...)

Nope not nervous at all, i was looking forward to having a good time. In fact sence i went to meet them that night i completely forgot about the dream and also i didnt belive the dream.

Those are thoughts about the past. How are they deja vus - other than that you are thinking the same things over and over again?

What i ment was when i get thinking of precognition or the event out of my head i end up having daja vu and start timing about it.

There are many possible reasons here. It could have been a lousy coincidence. You might be guilty of remembering your hits and forgetting the misses. I.e. how many times did you have similar feelings and nothing spectacular happened at all? Maybe subconsciously you picked up on some subtle difference in the ways your friend behaved that day. (Perhaps he was a little sick, or in a slight hurry, overly hungry or anything else that might let people make mistakes in traffic. Or, perhaps, there was just more traffic than usual that day ...)

True my frist impresion of this event was coincidence.

Because in your life you had all of two events that seem a little odd? (At least one of which is easily explained, with the other having at least plausible explanations?)

I have way more than two events but i dont have time to type

Sorry, I can't help you there. If that is what you really want, you are probably in the wrong forum alltogether. But, please, stay a little longer. People here will most certainly be able to help you to get to the bottom of things - it might just turn out that there's nothing special at the bottom. But if you are interested in finding out the truth, this is a good place. (And, hey, if you're actually right, you'll get tons of money, too...)

I dont get, its a site for paranormal stuff why wouldnt i look for answers here.
Any ideas were to look ?

It's a good start. Very scientific. You might want to write down all your dreams, though. (Just in case some of them are prophetic even though they might not feel that way right after you wake up.)

Then be very precise in what you write down and how you assess things.

Nop im not wrighting down all my dreams cos sum are just dreams. Its the ones were im getting more than just a image almost like im reading my own thoughts at that time that im preecoging about.

Then be very precise in what you write down and how you assess things.

"Things will go wrong the very first time I invite people to my own place" is a precise prediction and can be easily verified. "I fear something bad will happen some time in some grocery store" is not very precise. Chances are that in your remaining years something bad will happen whilst you are shopping for groceries. The place might be robbed whilst you are there, or maybe you run into a pyramid of cans and knock it over or - if it comes to the worst - they are out of beer ...

Hard to responed to that as i do not wish to share what happened that night nor wish to type as it would take too long. Only that i had completly forgotin the dream untill half way throught the negitave event. But yes it is true i could just be relating the two .

Thanks for the input its always good to have a seconed opion

 

[Rasmus]

I dont get, its a site for paranormal stuff why wouldnt i look for answers here.

This is a sceptics forum, run by a particular sceptics organization; namely the JREF. People here are mostly unbelievers.

Any ideas were to look ?

What are you looking for?

This is a great place if you want to find out *if* what you think is true. (You might need a thicker than average skin, though.) People here can help you to accurately measure the assumed effect - as long as you are willing to accept that the effect might be nil.

So, seriously, what are you looking for?

Nop im not wrighting down all my dreams cos sum are just dreams. Its the ones were im getting more than just a image almost like im reading my own thoughts at that time that im preecoging about.

I wouldn't know how to tell apart the two kinds of dreams. You would get better and more reliable data if you looked at all your dreams. Of course, if you only want to find out *if* there is a phenomenon, then looking at just some of your dreams might be enough to confirm that. (OTOH, it makes denial a lot easier if those dreams fail to produce the expected results.)

Hard to responed to that as i do not wish to share what happened that night nor wish to type as it would take too long. Only that i had completly forgotin the dream untill half way throught the negitave event. But yes it is true i could just be relating the two .

I still find it highly likely that you at least subconsciously remembered - after all, you said that you postponed the meeting for several days, so it was important to you.

Also, there are scientific explanations for experiencing deja vus. The short version is, that your brain hickups when it processes new input. Watch as those that know more about these issues will beat me up correct me on the finder details.

 

[Jas]

I don't understand how people with the ability to see into the future, don't have the presence of mind to use a spellchecker.

 

[chillzero]

Nope not nervous at all, i was looking forward to having a good time. In fact sence i went to meet them that night i completely forgot about the dream and also i didnt belive the dream.

I'm curious about why you would state this, after stating that it bothered you enough to delay the get-together - twice.

 

[richardm]

One time I was cycling home from school with a friend and as we went or different way I have an over whelming feeling that my friend was in danger. Now as I had no dream to relate this danger and to act apon what ever comes in to my head is a sure way to the crazy house I did not pursue my friend. As it happened a car hit my friend, thankfully only a broken arm a few broses.

This sort of thing sounds significant, but it is possible that you are falling into the trap of "counting the hits and ignoring the misses". That is to say, you may get these feelings quite regularly, but you only remember them when something happens that matches that feeling.

One way to test this would be to carry a small notebook around with you and jot down a note when you have one of your feelings. If something happens that corresponds to one of your jottings - and set a timescale for this, the happening should be within a reasonable time of your note - then mark it as a hit. Be honest with yourself - don't mark it as a hit if you have a feeling about Friend 'A' but Friend 'B' falls off a ladder.

See how you get on. You may be surprised at how many of them turn out to be non-events. If you're starting to change the way you live your life because of your dreams, this may be a useful thing to do.

Also, you only give one example of your Deja Vu apparently working (when your friend was hit by a car). Got any others?

 

[Starthinker]

Nop im not wrighting down all my dreams cos sum are just dreams. Its the ones were im getting more than just a image almost like im reading my own thoughts at that time that im preecoging about.

This sort of thing sounds significant, but it is possible that you are falling into the trap of "counting the hits and ignoring the misses". That is to say, you may get these feelings quite regularly, but you only remember them when something happens that matches that feeling.

This is exactly what it sounds like. When you write down all your dreams I'm sure you will see more misses. The ones that are "hits" you will remember as being significant and the ones that didn't hit you probably don't remember at all. Write down all your dreams and rate the significance on some sort of scale, then compare.

I'd also like to welcome you to the forum and to remind you that it's a skeptical forum. Chances are you are projecting significance on an everyday occurance and if you are not open to the mundane explanation (and are only open to appearance of having some sort of ability) then your experience here will not be pleasant. If you are open to some of the explanations given here then you will grow more than if you leave in a huff. That's just my opinion, others may vary.

 

[The 3rd eye]

This is a sceptics forum, run by a particular sceptics organization; namely the JREF. People here are mostly unbelievers.

Then i am in the right place

What are you looking for?

This is a great place if you want to find out *if* what you think is true. (You might need a thicker than average skin, though.) People here can help you to accurately measure the assumed effect - as long as you are willing to accept that the effect might be nil.

So, seriously, what are you looking for?

Im looking for the truth, not to the paranormal but to thats going on in my head.

I wouldn't know how to tell apart the two kinds of dreams. You would get better and more reliable data if you looked at all your dreams. Of course, if you only want to find out *if* there is a phenomenon, then looking at just some of your dreams might be enough to confirm that. (OTOH, it makes denial a lot easier if those dreams fail to produce the expected results.)

There is a difference between the dreams. its not that im having dreams and trying to relate my life to the dreams its. Its almost a case what you see is what you get. And im reciving knowlage during these deams like how i feel what im thinking what otheir poeples feeling are like.

I still find it highly likely that you at least subconsciously remembered - after all, you said that you postponed the meeting for several days, so it was important to you.

Yes this is exceptabile as subconsciously who knows what im thinking but it doesnt explain why i had the dream about moving out before i had any knowlage id have to.

Also, there are scientific explanations for experiencing deja vus. The short version is, that your brain hickups when it processes new input. Watch as those that know more about these issues will beat me up correct me on the finder details.

I have heard this befor but is it true or is it just a explanation or a idea ?

 

[SusanB-M1]

Before I grew old and realised that such events are almost certainly, as other posters have said here, due to coincidence and only remembering the hits not the misses, I read a book called 'An Experimant with Time' by John Dunne, first published in 1931 and reprinted in 1981. I think you will find it an interesting read, but that, by waking yourself and writing down dreams, you will soon find yourself much more tired than usual and I found that it quickly became extremely boring!

 

[The 3rd eye]

I don't understand how people with the ability to see into the future, don't have the presence of mind to use a spellchecker.

Sorry to all about my spelling but im slightly dyslexic and when i us spell check i end up picking the wrong word and spend longer correcting my typing then typing it.

 

[The 3rd eye]

I'm curious about why you would state this, after stating that it bothered you enough to delay the get-together - twice.

I never siad it bothered me i just decided that instead of having a party frist and doing othier things after id do the othier things frist and then the party.

 

[The 3rd eye]

This sort of thing sounds significant, but it is possible that you are falling into the trap of "counting the hits and ignoring the misses". That is to say, you may get these feelings quite regularly, but you only remember them when something happens that matches that feeling.

One way to test this would be to carry a small notebook around with you and jot down a note when you have one of your feelings. If something happens that corresponds to one of your jottings - and set a timescale for this, the happening should be within a reasonable time of your note - then mark it as a hit. Be honest with yourself - don't mark it as a hit if you have a feeling about Friend 'A' but Friend 'B' falls off a ladder.

See how you get on. You may be surprised at how many of them turn out to be non-events. If you're starting to change the way you live your life because of your dreams, this may be a useful thing to do.

Also, you only give one example of your Deja Vu apparently working (when your friend was hit by a car). Got any others?

Good idea. but as for the last part i didnt have a dream or daja vu of my fiend being hit by a car it was a overwhelming feeling.

 

[Beth]

People who report precognitive dreams such as yours often describe them as different from other dreams. Some people say they have a different flavor, others a different texture.

Whether or not they are truly precognition is very hard to determine with certainty because there's no way of computing the probability of a hit occurring by chance alone. However, if you write them down and then, later, review them to see how many have occurred you can at least get an idea of how often you are right. People counting the hits and not the misses is quite common.

For those who have experienced such things, it can seem quite absurd to attribute the experiences to random chance. Still, unless you make a record of your experiences and how many times they later happen, it's impossible to make any estimate of how close and how frequently they actually occur.

 

[chillzero]

I never siad it bothered me i just decided that instead of having a party frist and doing othier things after id do the othier things frist and then the party.

Umm... that's not what you said:

"So after I had moved out and finished work for the week I was going to have my friends over to have a few beers and watch a few movies. Now in remembering the dream I had I decided that the first night I could have my friends over that I would wait. Just to be sure as to nothing would happen and to have it the next day seemed to close for comfort as well. So I decide that id have them over on the third day."

Now, I read that as remembering the dream did bother you: enough to delay - to be certain nothing would happen. You decided to delay not only by one day but 2 days were too close for comfort - so you arranged it the 3rd day instead. So, not only did you allow this dream to affect what you did, you also had not forgotten about it at all.

 

[The 3rd eye]

Another crazy stoire

As i have stated before i have only started wrighting down my dreams lately but they have become clearer to under stand.

I do not remember when i had this dream but its not so much about how true the dream came to be its the problem of under standing the dream as i will try to explain.

THE DREAM
So i had this dream that i was working in what i could only at the time i percive as a space station. i was in a white room with machens around me and wearing a full body suit with helmet. now when i awoke and started analising the dream as i felt it was a precog it made no sence to me as i would never go to space in my life time ( i thought id love to ) the saposid space suit was not a in-closing iteam. .I.E if ya went in to space with it youd be screwed.

so i egnored the fact it was what i felt was a precog and left it as a dream.

Now as i said befor i had to move out of home because i was ding a work placement program for my collage. I can only telll you i know i had this dream well befor knowing were id be working.

As it happends i ended up get a work placement in Intel ( computer Processor manufacture ) And i would be working in there fab. The fab is a clean room envirment witch requires you to wear a full body suit and if i was to decribe to you what it looked like useing the word space station would help decribe it.

If that didnt freak me out enuf two months in working in my bay i sat thinking about that dream i had and there i was just as id been in my dream but yet i still felt i was out of place as if i wasnt ment to work in this area. .I.E I was in the wrong bay. No once again a sruged it of thinking well i am in this bay and iv been here foe two months so why was i feeling out of place.

About two-three weeks after thinking that i was moved from that area into a new bay i was told that it was not intels standard practice to move co-ops around but that people were needed in this area.

So i had a dream about my working in intel and even thow i was '' informed '' by my dream of what was going to happen it was still not under stood by me. Sorta like been told the punch line of a joke befor being told the joke.

It just didnt make any sence till i was there and then with the knowlage of what was happening.

 

[The 3rd eye]

Umm... that's not what you said:

"So after I had moved out and finished work for the week I was going to have my friends over to have a few beers and watch a few movies. Now in remembering the dream I had I decided that the first night I could have my friends over that I would wait. Just to be sure as to nothing would happen and to have it the next day seemed to close for comfort as well. So I decide that id have them over on the third day."

Now, I read that as remembering the dream did bother you: enough to delay - to be certain nothing would happen. You decided to delay not only by one day but 2 days were too close for comfort - so you arranged it the 3rd day instead. So, not only did you allow this dream to affect what you did, you also had not forgotten about it at all.

No i hadint forgotin about the dream when thinking about having my friends over but the night they were coming over i had forgotin it then, as when we started meeting up we just started having a laugh and i didn want to think about the problems in my life i just wanted to have fun.

 

[Lothian]

Precognition, as you describe, everyone has it. No need to worry.