Help with precogniton

[richardm]

Good idea. but as for the last part i didnt have a dream or daja vu of my fiend being hit by a car it was a overwhelming feeling.

jot down a note when you have one of your feelings.

Just make a quick note - "Overwhelming feeling felt on Thursday". If your supposed precognition is non-specific it doesn't need to be an impediment to this. You'll soon discover whether you only get these feelings before something dramatic happens, or whether you get them randomly.

 

[Forty-Two]

This is a sceptics forum, run by a particular sceptics organization; namely the JREF. People here are mostly unbelievers.

Then i am in the right place

That's a good sign. I want to congratulate you on seeking out people who won't necessarily give you the answers for which you'd particularly hoped but are willing to help you find what can actually be proven. Some of the posters here are less friendly than others, but believe me -- If you do posess this ability and are able to convince us, we'll all be very interested and encouraging.

I can't add any more advice to what others have posted -- that is, take notes on these feelings as you have them, not after the fact when events might influence your perception of them.

In the meantime, welcome!

 

[ObscureReferenceMan]

I second what others are saying. Also, consider the factor of time. If I had a dream (or feeling, or whatever) about "some bad event" occurring, and it came true the next day, that would be remarkable. But what if the bad event occurred a week later. Or a month. Or a year. Is it that I "predicted" the event? Or that I'm trying to to fit my dream/feeling to the event?

A few terms you should be familiar with:
Confirmation Bias
Wishful Thinking
Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy

Take some time to browse around at the above links. I'm sure you'll find some ways you have "thought wrong" at times. I know I have!

 

[Starthinker]

I second what others are saying. Also, consider the factor of time. If I had a dream (or feeling, or whatever) about "some bad event" occurring, and it came true the next day, that would be remarkable. But what if the bad event occurred a week later. Or a month. Or a year. Is it that I "predicted" the event? Or that I'm trying to to fit my dream/feeling to the event?

A few terms you should be familiar with:
Confirmation Bias
Wishful Thinking
Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy

Take some time to browse around at the above links. I'm sure you'll find some ways you have "thought wrong" at times. I know I have!

Are those obscure references, man?

 

[ObscureReferenceMan]

Anywhere else, yes. Here, they're "required reading".

 

[LTC8K6]

I see, in the near future, someone leaving here disappointed......

 

[monkey]

One time I was cycling home from school with a friend and as we went or different way I have an over whelming feeling that my friend was in danger.

As was mentioned above, a feasible explanation here is that of 'remembering the hits and forgetting the misses'.

Just something to consider though:

You may also have unintentionally exaggerated your own memory of exactly how overwhelming that feeling is. This may even have happened from immediately after your friend was hit (I'm glad to hear they weren't too badly injured). Say you did have a bad feeling about your friend, maybe even a mild one (though a strong one is still likely to happen here & there). This in itself is not terribly uncommon - perfectly reasonable for a friend to worry a little - you may have even subconsciously noticed your friend's bike wobble a little or speed up a little or something which put the thought in your head.

Now from even such a slight discomfort, the very second your friend is hit you would of course have a reaction of "holy crap I knew somehting bad was gonna happen". At this point you have already solidified that bad feeling as being strong, whether or not it really was. And subsequent rememberings or retellings may further strengthen the intensity of the feeling you recall.

I'm not trying to be insulting or re-write how things happened, just trying to give an example of how similar events can result in a feeling being remembered as stronger than it may have been at the time.

(and a feeling is a very tricky thing when it comes to trying to quantify it in your memory, I know many of the stronger feelings I remember having are likely wayyy out of proportion to how they actually were )

 

[fuelair]

Ya ur right, what was i thinking, a forum related to the paranormal what does that have to do with precognition ?

I believe that what was meant is that this is a skeptical forum so asking for info about precog would be reasonable but looking for people who believe in it here might be a bit unrealistic.

Deja vu is not really precog though it might be a reason some think they have it.

 

[Starthinker]

I believe that what was meant is that this is a skeptical forum so asking for info about precog would be reasonable but looking for people who believe in it here might be a bit unrealistic.

Deja vu is not really precog though it might be a reason some think they have it.

I also think that deja vu and precognition is two different things. Deja vu just means you are in contact with a parallel universe where the same thing happens at the same time and your "self" is temporarily out of synch with your "self" in the other universe so when you experience the same thing but at slightly different times you get that strange feeling of, well, of deja vu.

 

[Forty-Two]

The most compelling theory I'd read about deja vu was that, while most of the time we store events in short term memory before relegating them to long term memory, occasionally some event will mistakenly get encoded in long term memory as it's happening. So, we have an illusion of remembering it as though it happened awhile back.

 

[Azrael 5]

Didn't we have another woo who claimed dyslexia a while back?
For the record,Im not buying it.

 

[LibraryLady]

That's a good sign. I want to congratulate you on seeking out people who won't necessarily give you the answers for which you'd particularly hoped but are willing to help you find what can actually be proven. ....

In the meantime, welcome!

I second the welcome and suggest that if you are really interested in verifying whether you are able to predict the future through your dreams, that you agree to a test. I'm not talking Randi or a million dollars here, just a simple test that could verify or disprove what you think is happening. Would this interest you?

 

[Jon.]

Didn't we have another woo who claimed dyslexia a while back?
For the record,Im not buying it.

Supercell Hunters, IIRC. I noticed that, too.

ETA: No, sorry, I was wrong. ScH claimed Asperger's.

 

[Jas]

Sorry to all about my spelling but im slightly dyslexic and when i us spell check i end up picking the wrong word and spend longer correcting my typing then typing it.

Fair enough, please accept my apologies.

 

[Almo]

I had extreme deja vu for about 6 years. It seemed to coincide with depression. Anyway, these things would go on for 10 seconds or more. Really freaked me out, though I never figured it was genuine precognition.

I like the theory that your perception gets filed in the memory before it gets processed for understanding. So when you do process it for understanding, it looks like it's already been experienced. This would also have the supporting benefit that it would be a very fresh and vivid memory since it was processed so recently.

What made mine weird was that my actions looped into it. I'd say "wow deja vu! Wow I saw... wow! I... wow!"

 

[Miss Whiplash]

Sorry to all about my spelling but im slightly dyslexic and when i us spell check i end up picking the wrong word and spend longer correcting my typing then typing it.

Or deliberately writing this way so we think you're a clueless newcomer.

Try again...

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

I heard of a disorder (brain damage) where the affected persons had deja vu for their entire lives. Everything they heard they felt they already knew. They couldn't tell you about events ahead of time, but after being told they felt reminded.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Ya ur right, what was i thinking, a forum related to the paranormal what does that have to do with precognition ?

This is a forum related to the critical evaluation of paranormal claims. It's not a forum of paranormal believers and mystics. You seem to think you have a superpower, why not simply apply for the JREF challenge and prove it?

 

[TjW]

I posted the answers to all your questions about a week ago.
Unfortunately, that thread seems to have been lost in the recent forum upgrade.

 

[thaiboxerken]

TjW, it you're just suffering from deja vu.