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Hello from a non-skeptic

I find Charles' breathless, over-the-top style absolutely hilarious. He should be writing bodice-ripping historical novels set in 18th century Scotland. All those virile young Highland heroes, feisty soothsaying maidens...the combination of sex, violence and the occult could knock the "Twilight" saga off the radar. And think of the film rights!
 
So far the best bits have been spoilered'd'd'd by the man himself. I'll see if I can dig out any fresh lumps of woo for you while I plough through this thing.

I could always stick it in the post to one of you when I'm done, true book-club style? Who knows, it might even find a place in the JREF library!
 
And to think I corrected you about this! Agatha, you were right all along - you have the gift of prophecy and are a veritable Lady of Lawers!!!!!

:eye-poppi :jaw-dropp

Between you and Agatha I fear that no secret of the temporal or spiritual realms will remain hidden.
 
The Lady of Lawers...again

I've had a closer look at the (pre-Charles) Lady of Lawers legend. The bolding throughout is mine.

This section is based almost verbatum upon the book 'In Famed Breadalbane' written by the Rev Gillies of Kenmore as to re-tell the story in the modern idiom would spoil the feeling of the tale.

The Lady of Lawers, whose sayings are often quoted in the Highlands of Perthshire, is said to have been a Stewart of Appin, Argyll, and to have been the wife of one of the lairds of Lawers. This tradition, however, conflicts with the known records of these families; and although diligent search has been made among old records and genealogies no reference so far has been found to such a person. On the other hand the traditions about the Lady of Lawers are so strong and definite that there can be no doubt as to the existence at some period in the past, of a woman who was gifted with a wonderful measure of wisdom and shrewdness, and who was closely related to the lairds of Lawers. Tradition asserts that a family of Stewarts, known on Lochtayside as Na Combaich, "The Companions," first came to Lawers from Appin in Argyll, as an escort with the Lady, and references to these Stewarts in the Kirk Session records of Kenmore of two hundred years ago confirm the tradition as to their district of origin being " Appin of Stewart." Some of the Lady's prophecies refer to the old church of Lawers, now a ruined building beside her house. A stone over the doorway of this church bears the date 1669, which would suggest that she lived about the middle of the seventeenth century. It is possible that she was the wife of a younger brother of Sir James Campbell, the sixth laird, and that she resided in the house rebuilt after 1645, by which time Sir James and his family had removed to Strathearn.

http://www.incallander.co.uk/oldlwrs.htm

So according to Gillies neither the Stewarts nor the Campbells have any proof that the Lady was a member of their families, in which case it seems rather odd of him to suggest that she may have married a younger brother of Sir James Campbell. I assume that this gentleman was the Sir James Campbell of Lawers who died in 1645 and whom Charles would have us believe was the Lady's father. More about this anon. Burke's Peerage records that Sir James had two younger brothers, Archibald - for whom no wife is mentioned - and Colin, who married an unknown member of the Colville family and died in 1618.

Debt had driven Sir James Campbell of Lawers to his estate in Strathearn, leaving his younger brother as laird of his Lochtayside lands. He is said to have married a daughter of Stewart of Appin, who became known as The Lady of Lawers.

http://www.scotlandmag.com/magazine/issue26/12006761.html

This account seems to have been taken from Gillies.

Name given to a woman of the Breadalbane family of Scotland (possibly a Stewart of Appin), who was married to Campbell of Lawers north shore of Loch Tay, ca. 1650). This woman was believed to be gifted with prophetic powers; her prophecies, said to be written in a book shaped like a barrel and kept in the charter room of Taymouth Castle, were known as "The Red Book of Balloch."

http://www.answers.com/topic/lady-of-lawers

"Campbell of Lawers" c. 1650? Could be Sir James or a close relative. We can rule out Sir James himself as we know he was married to Jean Colville.

The two storied house, the ruins of which are still visible, was reputed to be Tigh Ban-tigheaona Larbhuir, the House of the Lady of Lawers, who was said to have been a Stewart of Appin, and the wife of one of the lairds of Lawers. The Lady was evidently a woman gifted with a wonderful measure of wisdom and shrewdness. Among the predictions attributed to her is one connected with the building of the church, which was probably built by Sir James Campbell, the sixth laird.

http://windhillorigins.co.uk/familyhistory_files/mcdougall/lawers.htm

Well, that's pretty vague.

Lady of Lawers
Location: Lawers - General area of the ruined village, on banks of Loch Tay
Type: Haunting Manifestation
Date / Time: 2006
Further Comments: This long deserted village is home to the phantom white lady of Lawers. Workers at a nearby hotel report the feeling of being watched in the area.

http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/lowlands/pertdata.php

This is a fascinating example of how folklore evolves. The soothsayer has now become a stereotypical phantom "white lady". And hotel workers, you're probably being watched by your supervisors. Cut down on those cigarette breaks!

Webster's Online Dictionary quotes the old Wikipedia article:
http://www.websters-online-dictiona...RID:9&ie=UTF-8&q=Lady+of+Lawers&sa=Search#922

This TV programme also identifies the lady as a Stewart of Appin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCBnLkrJgyo

Presenter Tom Weir was the younger brother of actress Molly Weir. You learn something new every day, don't you?

Has anyone been misled by Charles' Wikipedia edit? I could only find this Korean Facebook page:
http://ko-kr.connect.facebook.com/pages/Lady-of-Lawers/139659292719705?sk=info

I get the distinct feeling that a generic "soothsayer" legend has attached itself to obscure members of well-known families. Is the story of the Lady of Lawers genuinely old? I've been unable to establish when it was first recorded.

When Charles rewrote the legend he created a major problem for himself by making the Lady a daughter of Sir James Campbell. Although Sir James was little known, his son became one of the most famous men in Scotland - Sir John Campbell, who later became the 1st Earl of Loudon, was made Lord Chancellor of Scotland in 1641 and was for ten years the leading negotiator between King Charles I and the covenanters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell,_1st_Earl_of_Loudoun

Are we expected to believe that Sir John was the brother of the Lady of Lawers and that nobody has ever noticed the connection?
 
So far the best bits have been spoilered'd'd'd by the man himself. I'll see if I can dig out any fresh lumps of woo for you while I plough through this thing.

I find this Lady of Lawers stuff and all things Stewart terribly interesting -- however $2 has been donated to this endeavor in my name (;) FSM) and would it kill you to quote or paraphrase some of those certain to be dog eared by now sections of the book with the sex scenes.

Thanks.
 
I agree. Big Les, just give us a sneak preview of the dirty bits and don't bother with the other crap. Bring on the nudity and farm animals!
 
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I get the distinct feeling that a generic "soothsayer" legend has attached itself to obscure members of well-known families. Is the story of the Lady of Lawers genuinely old? I've been unable to establish when it was first recorded.

There's a long letter to the editor in The Dundee Courier & Argus (Dundee, Scotland), Thursday, October 01, 1863; Issue 3165. which mentions Lady Campbell of Lawers and says her predictions were made "over 140 years ago".
 
So far the best bits have been spoilered'd'd'd by the man himself. I'll see if I can dig out any fresh lumps of woo for you while I plough through this thing.

I could always stick it in the post to one of you when I'm done, true book-club style ? Who knows, it might even find a place in the JREF library!


How about a lottery? Though those with mediumnic ability might have an unfair advantage ;).


Anne
 
My favourite bit so far was when Charles described Charlie's first cousin, whom he had an affair with, knocked up and then abandoned, as "disturbingly attractive".

Now, can anyone guess what the following might be used for?

Boden said:
...some flowers, honey, fruit, vegetables, eggs, popcorn, candles, an old shirt and a white dove.
 
My favourite bit so far was when Charles described Charlie's first cousin, whom he had an affair with, knocked up and then abandoned, as "disturbingly attractive".

Now, can anyone guess what the following might be used for?

Sounds like the recipe for an interesting evening, to say the least :D
 
My favourite bit so far was when Charles described Charlie's first cousin, whom he had an affair with, knocked up and then abandoned, as "disturbingly attractive".

Now, can anyone guess what the following might be used for?

Oh, dear God. Would it be some sort of bizarre mediumnic spirit-summoning ritual? I just hope the white dove survived the experience.
 
We have a winner! And don't worry, the dove gets away with its dignity intact. Unlike;

...a man wearing a black cape, with a black top-hat covering his head. His torso was naked, showing the figure of a muscular man wearing red pants and black boots. In one hand he held a trident, while the other hand, with a closed fist, was placed defiantly at his hip...
 
...while the other hand, with a closed fist, was placed defiantly at his hip...

I'm a bit worried by the reference to the "closed fist". In fact I'm so worried I'm going to think about happy things like the Rio de Janeiro carnival. I think Bonnie Prince Charlie would be right at home there - after all, if you were an 18th century aristocrat you were ALWAYS dressed for carnival time!

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Hokulele, I share your confusion about that half naked man with a closed fist. We should all club together and buy Big Les a nice gift for ploughing through Charles' less than limpid prose.
 
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