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Hello from a non-skeptic

AdMan said:
Big Le's, as you read the Boden Codex, keep in mind that Charles has apologized in advance for it, so don't be too harsh. After all, any errors in it are due to Window's.
Charles Boden said:
The agent I am working with had promised to revise it before publication, which wasn't done, so indeed I apologise for some errors in it which were not seen under my own revision and actually derived from the final Window's "grammar and spell check" I made.
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I think his real error was in using the Windows Genealogy Check.
 
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Big Les said:
'Tis a paperback of uncertain page count, for it lacks pagination. [edit] - And footnotes, references, a bibliography or even an index. It is, perhaps, 1.5cm thick.
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Amazon show's it as 158 page's. You can also click on the picture of the cover on the Amazon page and get the first few page's of it to read in their online Kindle app, if anyone want's to s'tart in on it.
 
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Amazon show's it as 158 page's. You can also click on the picture of the cover on the Amazon page and get the first few page's of it to read in their online Kindle app, if anyone want's to s'tart in on it.
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I b'elieve you can read a page or two m'ore of The Boden Codex here.
 
I peeked. The over(mis)use of "quotation marks" on the early pages is not encouraging. However, the prediction in the second paragraph is eerily prescient:

Sir Chuck said:
Whether those who will read what is written within these pages might consider me a liar or a fool, or perhaps even insane, I would willingly swear upon God's name that all the events described herein truly happened, regardless if those who choose to live in disbelief may wish to think otherwise or not.

Quite certainly most will not believe in these events. Many will shun them, some might even attempt to ridicule them, and in our eternal disbelief yet others will disregard them believing in the scientific knowledge of their own scepticism or in the blind interpretation of the dogmas and doctrines of their own religious faith.
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on edit - 2 paragraphs that are available online for free is 'fair use,' right?

With apologies to B'ig Le's if I spoiled the intro while his champagne was still cooling.

PS - that martyr complex comes through right from the get-go, doesn't it?
 
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I'm only going to respond on three points from his post, because i simply can handle only so much crap at a time.

Charles Boden said:
So now I'm being called a liar as well...
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Not only do we call you that, we can actually prove that you lied to us. It starts with what you expected when you came here, continues through what you intended when you came here, and includes things like you saying that we put words in your mouth, while it was shown to you that you indeed said those things.

Tell me, Charles. If i would now say "Charles is a stupid bozo", and you then complain "Hey, Christian said that i'm a stupid bozo", and then i reply with "I never said that you are a stupid bozo, you are putting words in my mouth!", what would that make me? A honest person, or a liar?

If i would start a thread here and ask something, then on another forum i would post that i came here to "poke at the skeptics", and then here claim that despite that, i just came here for some serious question, don't you think that i would have lied, either here or there?

And trust me, there is a lot more from where that came....

Charles Boden said:
You know, you all asked me about my children. I have absolutely no doubt that I would much rather they grew up respecing others and their beliefs than following all the cynical, mean and unmerciful approach that you all seem to find so enjoyable here.
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While it is completely up to you how you raise your children, let me tell you my personal opinion. If you raise them in the belief that supernatural crapola is real, that past life stuff is real, that you are a descendant (and by implication, them too) from some royal family while you are not, you are doing the very same that i accuse of everyone who raises their child in the frameset of any religion. That is, they are mentally abusing and knowingly harming their childs.

Charles Boden said:
No, I didn't like the book being pulled out and posted here.
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Now you are lying again. Remember, it was YOU who copypasted whole paragraphs of that book. That means, yes, it was YOU who brought it up first. Here's some news for you: You are on the internet! You know, that thing where stuff like Google exists, that Google thing where you enter stuff into a text field and it returns you whatever it found containing that stuff.

So, since YOU copypasted stuff from your book here, it is _very_ reasonable to assume that someone will take that and put it in a Google search. And guess what, Google then does what it is supposed to to, it actually finds it! Welcome to the 21st century, Charles.

And btw., if continue digging your own hole that vehemently, it's only a matter of short time until you reach the other side of the globe!

tell me, hoe comes that YOU have been banned on the CPL forum, and none of us? Don't you think that they recognized your transparent lies for what they are? Hmmm?

Greetings,

Chris
 
Wow... I wasn't very interested in this thread, but now that I can go back and see the direction it has taken over the last few weeks, I find it really entertaining.

Thanks, guys. Good job.
 
carlitos said:
I peeked. The over(mis)use of "quotation marks" on the early pages is not encouraging. However, the prediction in the second paragraph is eerily prescient:

on edit - 2 paragraphs that are available online for free is 'fair use,' right?

With apologies to B'ig Le's if I spoiled the intro while his champagne was still cooling.

PS - that martyr complex comes through right from the get-go, doesn't it?
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Appropriately enough, "prescient" is precisely the word I used when I used the 8-page preview to make a start on this the other day. It's basically a self-penned Get Out of Jail Free card for any and all bloopers contained within.

I'm still ploughing through the extraneous biographical fluff at the moment. The first few chapters alternate between Prince Charlie biographical stuff you can read anywhere, and Mr Boden's childhood and spiritual awakening at the oujia board. This, apparently, is where he was first told, by a dead Brazilian working by means of the communal ideomotor effect, that he was "C-h-a-r-l-e-s-E-d-w-a-r-d-S-t-e-w-a-r-t" in a past life. The choice of the little-used spelling of "Stuart" is easily explained by the (deceased) messenger being a non-native English speaker.
 
On bringing up children:

When I was a young teenager and first heard of synaesthesia, in the context of people on LSD sometimes reporting that they had "heard colors", I remarked to my dad that didn't it seem like an awful coincidence that there were seven colors in the spectrum and seven notes in the musical scale? I thought maybe I'd stumbled on something profound.

My dad disabused me of that notion. He explained that dividing the visible spectrum into seven colors was pretty much arbitrary, and that people speaking languages other than English may well divide it up differently. The same thinking applied to the musical scale - music from different cultures than ours had different intervals and different numbers of notes in a scale.

Was my dad being a big jerk by crushing my creativity?

No, he was doing me a favor. He was doing his job as a parent to raise a critically thinking son who valued intellectual rigor.

I'm not going to comment on Charles's parenting in particular, even though he brought it up. We really have almost no idea how he raises his children. Just some food for thought on child-rearing and skepticism.
 
Not to mention that his claim that "we all asked about his children" is pretty much baseless. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't see that happening.

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Charles Boden said:
So now I'm being called a liar as well...

You know, you all asked me about my children.
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Really?
 
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carlitos said:
I peeked. The over(mis)use of "quotation marks" on the early pages is not encouraging. However, the prediction in the second paragraph is eerily prescient:



on edit - 2 paragraphs that are available online for free is 'fair use,' right?

With apologies to B'ig Le's if I spoiled the intro while his champagne was still cooling.

PS - that martyr complex comes through right from the get-go, doesn't it?
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Well you're going to get "a profound reflection upon the purpose of our existences and the true meaning of life... ".:eye-poppi
 
Garrette said:
It is difficult to hear that what we have always been certain is true is not actually true. Your response right now is not really the gauge by which you should be judged in the long term, because very few among us have the capacity to handle such belief-shattering evidence stoically the first time we are exposed to it. What matters is how you behave in the future. Will you take the dishonest road of pretending this episode never happened or that you are right and we are wrong despite the evidence? Or will you take the better man's road of facing the harsh and painful truth?

Your choice, Charles.
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Well said.
 
Charles Boden said:
DLorde, you won't do the hypnotic regression and you all keep going at me because of the Ouija?
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Really Charles? where did I say that? link please.

In fact, I think I said:
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But yes, a personal regression would be interesting and might be fun... I'll think about it.
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I'd be quite interested to experience a past-life-style confabulation - there's nothing quite like experiencing something for yourself - which reminds me, did you try the blinded ouija test yet?
 
dlorde- (continues chant started earlier) RE-GRESS! RE-GRESS!

and please to have a suitable camera set up:blush::blush:


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But we know how it will likely go--unless dlorde has some major psychological break (or unless dlorde is indeed tuning into a past life...), the damned regression won't work because of your closed minded snippedy, relished with stupor BAD skeptical attitude.
 
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Hokulele said:
Very true. And, preaching to the choir here for a bit, there is also nothing like looking into why you experienced what you did, rather than assuming "what you saw is what you got". :)
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Well put Hokulele. A phrase worth remembering for the 'ordinary person' who isn't full of knowledge, and encounters other people also with no knowledge but who accept the paranormal without question.

It's also sad that someone researches their family tree and denies their own family for want of being a royal. Sad.
I have a feeling my family are related to poachers of the land rather than the Duke they are associated with. Hey, I'll take the poachers if they are related!
 
FSM said:
dlorde- (continues chant started earlier) RE-GRESS! RE-GRESS!
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But we know how it will likely go--unless dlorde has some major psychological break (or unless dlorde is indeed tuning into a past life...), the damned regression won't work because of your closed minded snippedy, relished with stupor BAD skeptical attitude.
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Yeah, it did occur to me that years of scepticism might result in the associations triggered by a 'regression' being patterned in a quite different way (i.e. not a past-life style) by the time they rise to conscious awareness. I think it's likely it gets interpreted according to expectation and suggestion... I don't yet know enough about the regression process - if it's fully guided (i.e. appropriately interpreted by the guide [regressor?]), then maybe it'll 'work' :rolleyes:

BTW, who's been trying to rock my pedestal while I've been out in distant forums taking the Word to the believers? You can't leave anything out these days...

OTOH, it's a great name for a TV show:
... and that was the last in the current series of 'Pimp My Ride'. Next week at the same time, the start of a new series of 'Rock My Pedestal' presented by Charles 'bonnie prince' Boden and Alice 'takes the biscuit' Shortcake - and they'll be asking: 'Reincarnation - Truth or Bullsh1t?'...
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