Hello from a non-skeptic

[Garrette]

agreed. I thought he needed to take a moment to re-read his randi's official guide to life and being a complete and utter a-hole by ruining everyone's good time.

Reviewing my copy of the book, i was saddened to learn we now have to shun dlorde. Strangely, though, the marquis' club is still allowed in our skeptics club.(tm)

ftfy.

 

[Garrette]

Not to mention his regular paychecks from Big Pharma, the NWO, the Illuminati and those we are forbidden to name...I don't know about dlorde, but if it wasn't for my hush money I simply couldn't make ends meet.

See here.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

Shun the deserter! Whip him with scorpions and rods of iron! Let him be sent to bed without any supper!

 

[Garrette]

Shun the deserter! Whip him with scorpions and rods of iron! Let him be sent to bed without any supper! more scorpions!

ftfy

 

[FSM]

See here.

See? CHAR-MING.

 

[Sledge]

no one can base their entire life on provable facts. There is just not enough information.

I laughed, then I started coughing.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

A magnificent sig, freshly harvested from a tub of organic woo.

 

[Olowkow]

I laughed, then I started coughing.

You're lucky....I wet 'em.

 

[dlorde]

It is remarkable what people can ignore in the spirit of ...what... pursuing a belief? Our stoically resolute "dlorde" is engaged in a most interesting thread on the PLF forum currently.

'Stoically resolute' - I like that, thanks

I have to say it feels more like tiptoeing blindfold through Taliban country...

 

[dlorde]

...They're trying to regress dlorde! How awesome is that! Please, please let them do it dlorde.

Might be kinda fun at that...

ETA: Man, that Nighttrain over there is really REALLY angry at all of us. I forget sometimes how mad we make people. I think we're charming.

I've been nothing but - treading on eggshells to show that science doesn't hate them and sceptics are just folks - but this guy does have some serious anger issues.

Poor dlorde. Don't let them tear you down, man.

Cough, >choke< ...it's, uh ...it's getting dark... and cold - so cold... tell my forum I - tell them I <cough!>, I was only doing what was right... cough, SNURK! wheeze...

You're doing a fine job. Clear, polite, kind. Seems like Florence is kinda listening to you.

Thanks. Florence - yeah well, think I may be in with a chance there!
(not really )

It's all a bit surreal - most are like Florence - pleasant, well-meaning, totally mistaken, and don't have the foggiest idea about science. Then there's Nighttrain trying to use science to bolster his belief and taking it as a personal insult if anyone (guess who!) suggests an alternative interpretation - he's just now denied that trying to use science in his argument makes it a scientific argument, and that therefore I can't rebut it with science...

 

[dlorde]

Not to mention his regular paychecks from Big Pharma, the NWO, the Illuminati and those we are forbidden to name...I don't know about dlorde, but if it wasn't for my hush money I simply couldn't make ends meet.

I just want to find my marbles... I know I left them around here somewhere.

 

[dlorde]

Reviewing my copy of the book, I was saddened to learn we now have to shun dlorde.

Hey, no problem - shunned is my middle name - but I'm on the other side now. In fact, I could swear I know you from a past life... were you at Pompei in in 79 AD?

 

[Apology]

Hey, no problem - shunned is my middle name - but I'm on the other side now. In fact, I could swear I know you from a past life... were you at Pompei in in 79 AD?

I was! I was carrying a flagon of wine on one shoulder and trying to hold up my toga with the other hand when both of my arms got broken. It hurt

 

[Drs_Res]

I was! I was carrying a flagon of wine on one shoulder and trying to hold up my toga with the other hand when both of my arms got broken. It hurt

Was it a flagon with a dragon?

 

[H'ethetheth]

...I had no idea of what the forum was really about. I can guarantee it has been one of the most unpleasant experiences of my life...

Are you sure that what some critical people said to you about your beliefs, not you, is one of the most unpleasant experiences in your life?

Really?

I mean, I also sometimes have to look for a parking space for twenty minutes, and I badly twisted my ankle a few weeks ago, making me unable to play soccer for weeks.

Serious stuff...

As I said, what I wrote I did so merely with the intention of sharing. And sharing something beautiful, I might add. That "life" is much more than just this which meets the eye. I honestly did not expect that in trying to do so I would have to encounter what I have. On my part, this discussion is indeed ended.

Charles

I also lost all of my house keys in Austria once, while skiing. I had to drive an extra 80 km round trip to get the spares. And how about that time I had to wait four hours for the train to come? Four hours!!

 

[Charles Boden]

So now I'm being called a liar as well...

You know, you all asked me about my children. I have absolutely no doubt that I would much rather they grew up respecing others and their beliefs than following all the cynical, mean and unmerciful approach that you all seem to find so enjoyable here.

You have not taken into account one single piece of evidence that has been presented. One thing that seriously dawned on me was the fact that I am dealing with people from an entirely different culture, and mostly the North American one at that. Indeed you all practically terrorised me and the CPL forum, and my concern was far more for those there than for myself. I do not see that you had the right to dig out what you did concerning the book I wrote and even putting me under almost personal investigation and totally ignoring my right to privacy.

No, I didn't like the book being pulled out and posted here. I had a serious question to pose and one that I am still in search of a proper answer. I have no reaon to doubt that the medium in Jacqueline Pool's case was lying either. She provided very detailed information about the murder, and likewise I have personally encountered situations that could not be explained by "hot or cold reading".

What you refer to as the "subconscious ideomotor effect" is precisely at the level in which mediumnic communications take place. "Psychography" or "automatic writing" was the technique used by Chico Xavier. You might wish to call it the "ideomotor effect", as with the Ouija, but it is at the subconscious level, when the conscious influence is momentarily suspended, that such intercommunications seem to take place. If you were indeed serious researchers, and not just "debunkers", you would probably begin to realize this, but your pre-concepts and pre-judices (the hyphen is intentional) prevent you from seeing any further.

Two years ago, I was still just at the beginning of my genealogical research, and indeed initially erroneously went up a wrong tree, which I admitted was wrong and eventually and with difficulty came upon the current connections. The reason for my research was simply to confirm what had been said to me 20 years earlier regarding my being "descended from a lineage of princes and kings" and because I wanted to use the genealogy as a conclusion to the story I had written. If not for anything else, the book also tells the story of the Jacobite Rising of 1745/46. No harm done in learning a little history, huh? You can even just skip the chapters in which I tell of my own personal experiences (which are not "anecdotes" or "lies") and still enjoy the story for its historical context.

Burke's Peerage does not describe what has no "nobility lineage" to it, which is why there are no references to children of second, third or whatever sons or daughters that carry with them no titles. This does not necessarily mean that they did not marry or have children. As I said, I have the baptism registry of John Stewart from Kenmore Parish, which is the parish for Lawers, from 7 Jul 1645, giving parents as John Stewart and Mary Campbell. The registry is in "old English style" so I am having difficulty in verifying precisely what is written, but the fact that my ancestor Angus Steuart was enlisted in the Jacobite army is a very strong indication that he was from the Stewarts of Appin clan, as the Stewarts of Appin were one of the main clans that rised in support. The connection and years in which the Stewarts of Appin are mentioned as having moved to Lawers in the Lady of Lawers' articles are far more coherent with a marriage into the Campbells, who were from Lawers (James Campbell, sheriff of Lawers was born in Lawers in 1569 and died in Lawers in 1645) than the other way round. Mary Campbell was born abt 1610. What I added to the wikipedia article was due to what I found via the registries and because it does indeed seem correct and coherent. If you might wish to make changes to it, Alice, just follow what is written in the other link you found and you you will see that they are both one and same. IMO, their info is incorrect, and whoever initially wrote the article was aware of this. There seem to be too many "coincidences" for this possibility not to be plausible.

Either way, once I found that my great-great grandmother was Isabella Stuart, and that therefore the "Stuart" of my family name is truly hereditary and not just a "chosen name", even if the connection I have found is not correct it will probably and inevitably, as now I know, lead to the Scottish Royalty at some point anyway... No great achievement there, obviosuly, as countless many of us are, but in my case it fits in well to conclude a story.

My book is just a self-publication. I don't expect and never expected it to go very far. The agent I am working with had promised to revise it before publication, which wasn't done, so indeed I apologise for some errors in it which were not seen under my own revision and actually derived from the final Window's "grammar and spell check" I made. They are not so many that they might interfere with its reading until a new edition comes out though.

My intention was merely to offer a reflection upon the concept of reincarnation and share my own experiences. Nothing more... I have consciously exposed myself to ridicule in publishing it, and even more so once its having been exposed here to come under your merciless attack. If indeed I have not managed to "give a little shake on your all-knowing pillars", likewise you have not done anything to change or shake mine in what I have come to learn. As I said to you all at the beginning, you guys know zilch regarding spirituality and mediumnity. In fact, to attempt to discuss such issues with you all would be like trying to explain advanced physics to a kindergarten class. In effect, you are, as I also said, like children frantically attempting to close your eyes to that which you do not wish to see...

Certainly I have a lot more that I could share, but they are personal issues and it would clearly be pointless to continue to do so here, reason why I have not. I told you all that I work an average of 12 hours a day and have a house and family. I honestly do not have the available time to start from scratch with all of you, which was why I recommended the CPL forum. "You are not Cleopatra" simply derives from the fact that those who may have "seen" her, whether in a regression, meditation or whatever, often confuse what they "see", and interpret that what they have seen might be themselves, when in fact they may have simply been one of the many thousands who may have seen her at some moment and confused their "visions". As has been said here so often, "memory" is an extremely fallible instrument. Imagine a "memory" of a past life... When I had the "vision" of riding towards the small town of Biggar, my viewpoint was of someone "looking out", as we would do in our day-to-day lives...

The only "evidences" I might be able to provide you all with would be the bracelet lost at where was probably the Palazzo Savelli, or the episode with Flora's hat, which I still have not managed to locate anywhere in all the research I have done into Bonnie Prince Charlie's life.

Hope I have answered at least some of your unanswered questions...

Charles

 

[Elizabeth I]

Was it a flagon with a dragon?

Are you sure you're not thinking of the chalice from the palace?

 

[Alice Shortcake]

Charles, time is running out. Any evidence that John Stewart didn't die without issue and that his wife was the Lady of Lawers? And by evidence I don't mean your own fantasy-based circular arguments. Remember, if you can't come up with the goods by tonight - let's say 10pm GMT...

Alice get ANGRY!

Alice SMASH Wikipedia article!

Oh, and Alice not born yesterday, Alice HIDE IP address!

Big Les, has a certain item entered your domicile yet?

 

[Garrette]

Charles,

You give conflicting reasons for your coming here.

You misrepresent what skeptics said about you both here and on PLF.

You misrepresent how skeptics were received at PLF.

You misrepresent the facts about your ancestry.

You change a Wikipedia page without adding citations then use the Wikipedia page as a citation.

You misrepresent disbelief in your claims as personal attacks.

You misrepresent evidence-based opposition to your claims as mere supposition.


You have been called a liar because your posts have contained sentences that are indistinguishable from lies. If you did not intend them as such, then you should have corrected them once they were pointed out; failing to have done so means you exhibited behavior consistent with that of a liar. If, when pointed out, you still think the sentences you wrote were not consistent with lying, then the only reasonable conclusion is that you have serious comprehension issues.

Frankly, I don't think you are intentionally lying. I think you are so emotionally invested--and have been for so long a time--that you truly believe your claims despite the lack of real evidence. I think the JREF represents the very first time you have ever been truly challenged and that you were not only surprised by it but emotionally threatened.

It is difficult to hear that what we have always been certain is true is not actually true. Your response right now is not really the gauge by which you should be judged in the long term, because very few among us have the capacity to handle such belief-shattering evidence stoically the first time we are exposed to it. What matters is how you behave in the future. Will you take the dishonest road of pretending this episode never happened or that you are right and we are wrong despite the evidence? Or will you take the better man's road of facing the harsh and painful truth?

Your choice, Charles.

 

[Akhenaten]

You have not taken into account one single piece of evidence that has been presented.

Actually, Charles, we have. The only things you're sooking about now are that you didn't present any of it and that none of it is supportive of your claims.

One thing that seriously dawned on me was the fact that I am dealing with people from an entirely different culture, and mostly the North American one at that.

Top halfers. You can dress 'em up but you can't take 'em anywhere, eh Charles?

Indeed you all practically terrorised me and the CPL forum, and my concern was far more for those there than for myself.

Oh puhlease.

If you're so worried about being called a liar then perhaps you need to, you know . . . stop making stuff up.

I do not see that you had the right to dig out what you did concerning the book I wrote and even putting me under almost personal investigation and totally ignoring my right to privacy.

You wrote and published a book, and now you're complaining that people who actually bought the damned thing are invading your privacy?

You have issues, dude.

No, I didn't like the book being pulled out and posted here. I had a serious question to pose and one that I am still in search of a proper answer.

You appear to have made a poor choice in coming here to tell your silly stories, eh? You should have just asked your question and bolted.

<geeze>

When people ask you the time, do you tell them how to build a watch?

Hope I have answered at least some of your unanswered questions...

Charles

Answering questions that have never been asked seems to be a bit of a specialty of yours.