Heliport tower ATC Sean Boger: ultimate validation of the north side approach

[Shalamar]

Shalamar, It's called the "CIT double standard"

It goes: " a wittness is a 100% accurrate except for the parts that we do not agree with."

Oh I know. I've been following the 911 terrorists truthers for some time now. Its amazing how they have so little evidence, and think that volume makes up for quality.

 

[dtugg]

It is worse than that, they have not released the entire videos/recordings of the witnesses upon which they rely.

Yeah, must be why it takes them so long to edit their crappy movies together. They were trying very hard to twist around what the witnesses say in an attempt to sound convincing. And they failed miserably at that. It's hard being a fraud, especially if you are an exceptionally stupid and incompetent fraud.

 

[TheLoneBedouin]

TLB you have multiple corroborative witnesses that unanimously agree that the plane flew into the pentagon. To dispute this is a case of special pleading and is a logical fallacy.

Nope, they are completely different circumstances.

See this post in "Over the Navy Annex" and this post in the CMH thread.

Notice from the second post:

13 Sean Boger....This is the only north side witness who definitively claims that he watched the plane enter the building but since all the other witnesses confirm his north side claim and a north side impact is impossible the logical conclusion is that he innocently embellished the impact details.

But I guess it's much more comforting to not look at all of the evidence. Too bad for you that the northern approach isn't going away and definitively proves the official account false.

 

[HyJinX]

I'll try this one again though....

TLB...lightposts....planted or not planted?

 

[dtugg]

pomeroo used to ask this before he got banned:

Why haven't the frauds had their witnesses abandon one of their two mutually exclusive claims? Either the plane hit the Pentagon or it flew NoC.

Your thoughts TLB?

 

[The Big Dog]

Nope, they are completely different circumstances.

See this post in "Over the Navy Annex" and this post in the CMH thread.

Notice from the second post:

But I guess it's much more comforting to not look at all of the evidence. Too bad for you that the northern approach isn't going away and definitively proves the official account false.

Hee hee! Actually most of your guys said it hit the pentagon, you just think they were lying wrong.

anyhoo, I'll just leave this here for ya:

"He says he hit the deck so logic would dictate that he did this as the plane hit."

Say hi to Tubby and Tremors for me!

 

[1337m4n]

13 Sean Boger....This is the only north side witness who definitively claims that he watched the plane enter the building but since all the other witnesses confirm his north side claim and a north side impact is impossible the logical conclusion is that he innocently embellished the impact details.

"Innocently embellished"?

WTF are you talking about.

He saw the plane hit the Pentagon. You cannot handwave that away so easily.

 

[DGM]

Typo- I meant "as he thought it hit the Pentagon".

If you didn't realize it yet, the plane cannot have approached from the North, banked right, flown at above 1st floor level, and still hit the Pentagon.

Theres no such thing as mistakes or innocent anomalies. What you said is what you meant. Remember your "truther" code.

 

[nicepants]

If you didn't realize it yet, the plane cannot have approached from the North, banked right, flown at above 1st floor level, and still hit the Pentagon.

What did Mr. Boger say when this discrepancy was explained to him?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Strange way of thinking:

This withness has two statements. One about the path of the plane, which even from his vantage point is error-prone. Another of a very violent and obvious event, namely the plane crashing into the building.

LoneB chooses to beleive the former, but not the latter part of the statement.

Hans

 

[beachnut]

Typo- I meant "as he thought it hit the Pentagon".

If you didn't realize it yet, the plane cannot have approached from the North, banked right, flown at above 1st floor level, and still hit the Pentagon.

Boger watched Flight 77 impact the Pentagon
He saw the CITGO to the RIGHT, and 77 to his left, left of CITGO, south. The idiots of CIT stepped on his testimony. The only thing CIT proved is they are idiots on investigation.

They talked over Boger and never confirmed what he said, they confirmed what they wanted him to mean. LOL Dolts. Are p4t and CIT both holocaust deniers and supporters of Iranian President? What a vacuum of knowledge, skill, and bias hate.

Pure stupid for 15 minutes from CIT and a delusion TTB who denies 77 impacted after Boger tells CIT 77 impacted.

Boger has 77 in the Pentagon, and this is confirmed with hard evidence of DNA and FDR found in the debris. Boger saw it.

TLB makes up a delusion. TLB did not listen to the worse interview ever. I want my 15:08 minutes back. What a bunch of dolts. Just to confirm Boger saw 77 impact.

Pure stupid as CIT throws in the slow plane, proving the witness wrong we have speed over 500 mph proven by hard evidence. You got hearsay and lies I got hard evidence.

You failed, CIT failed, Balsamo is bigot.

 

[Alt+F4]

Another example of why DNA evidence outweighs eyewitness testimony:

Timothy Cole was convicted and sentenced to 25 years in prison for the 1985 rape of 20-year-old Michele Mallin. He maintained his innocence, but it was not confirmed by DNA until years after his 1999 death, when another inmate confessed to the rape.

Then a student at Texas Tech University in Lubbock, Mallin was walking to her car when a man approached her asking about jumper cables, she told CNN. In a matter of seconds, he put her in a chokehold, a knife to her neck. He forced himself into her car and drove her to the outskirts of town, where he raped her.

The next day, police investigators showed Mallin pictures of possible suspects. She chose a picture of Cole and said he was her attacker. She later identified him in a physical lineup, according to the Innocence Project of Texas.

"I was positive," she told CNN. "I really thought it was him."

Linky:http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/05/texas.exoneration/index.html

 

[beachnut]

CIT shows a video of Craig and some other CIT failed investigator telling us what Boger die on 911. HEARSAY.

In the Video from the OP on Boger: We have a phone call where a failed CIT investigator steps on Boger while he is talking. Then CIT makes up what he said after stepping all over what he tried to say.

When Boger says to his right he is talking about the CITGO (CIT GO), and left of CITGO is the south path; Clearly Boger says left proving the official flight path. But instead of verifying what Boger said, they step on his words, and never get it straight.

It was hilarious as the CIT dolt spews junk about being in the back of the CITGO story what direction would it be, as Boger talks independent of the question which is going on as Boger says yep, or yes, but since CIT is stepping on his thought, it is the best example of bad investigating.

After all the delusions and stupid on this 15:08 minutes of the worse interview in history of investigation, Boger see 77 impact the Pentagon.

What we have here is a ploy to get the traffic up at CIT forum, which is dead except for talk of JREF talking about CIT dolt ideas. Craig is one real dumb investigator on 911, he must have some job where delusions pay off.

Better go back to making an enemies list Craig; maybe TLB can help out he is not capable of understanding your failed investigation techniques. Or TLB and Craig can go over to p4t forum and deny the holocaust and worship the President of Iran.

If it were not for their idiotic talking during the interview CIT may learn Boger proves North Flight Path is delusion by CIT logic.

If anyone thinks this interview proves anything but 77 impacted the Pentagon, they failed to listen to the messed up interview. If you think Boger supports the NoC delusion, you lack the skills to see the errors made in the interview that render the phone interview worthless.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

In light of the fact that it should be painfully clear by now to the members here that not a single first-hand witness account exists to refute the north side approach...

First, Father Stephen McGraw and Loyd Englund would disagree with you.

Second, no such eyewitness accounts are necessary. The physical evidence of the knocked-over lamp posts (among other things) conclusively prove the established flightpath. Physical evidence always trumps eyewitness testimony.

 

[Ragnarok]

I'm sure someone will already have asked this, but can someone provide me to a link detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon? Have any 'independent' groups had access to all this data?

Where are all the recovered plane pieces? Who has been allowed to examine these items?

Surely all this 'evidence' hasn't been accepted on faith, has it?

 

[DavidJames]

I'm sure someone will already have asked this, but can someone provide me to a link detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon? Have any 'independent' groups had access to all this data?

Where are all the recovered plane pieces? Who has been allowed to examine these items?

Surely all this 'evidence' hasn't been accepted on faith, has it?

If you're asking if any of that was shared with any of the mentally ill 9/11 CTists, I don't think so.

 

[beachnut]

I'm sure someone will already have asked this, but can someone provide me to a link detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon? Have any 'independent' groups had access to all this data?

Where are all the recovered plane pieces? Who has been allowed to examine these items?

Surely all this 'evidence' hasn't been accepted on faith, has it?

Wrong thread. (DNA, the navy had to work with the experts; lots of oversight please stop supporting idiots and research this first; FDR found in the Pentagon, proof of 77 did it)
Boger saw Flight 77 impact the Pentagon. Topic. Go find the right thread.

Do you believe Boger saw 77 hit the Pentagon?

Did you watch the video?

What do you think?

Why does CIT make up lies and spew delusions?

 

[Bobert]

I'm sure someone will already have asked this, but can someone provide me to a link detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon? Have any 'independent' groups had access to all this data?

Where are all the recovered plane pieces? Who has been allowed to examine these items?

Surely all this 'evidence' hasn't been accepted on faith, has it?

IIRC there were hundreds of personnel involved in the collection and then identification of the DNA!
Are you going to some how wave your hand and say they were, "in on it"?
3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead.
They couldn't even keep friggin watergate a secret!

 

[Baylor]

I'm sure someone will already have asked this, but can someone provide me to a link detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon?

http://radiology.rsnajnls.org/cgi/content/full/223/1/7

Have any 'independent' groups had access to all this data

Why the **** would anyone let any untrained "independent" asshat contaminate the crime scene?

 

[Alt+F4]

can someone provide me to a link detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon? Have any 'independent' groups had access to all this data?

Here's a link for you to start your quest. Please get back to us when you have interviewed these people.

http://nmhm.washingtondc.museum/exhibits/911/index.html

If you don't beleive them then prove they are lying.