Heeeeeeere's Obamacare!

Brainster said:
At this point, I have to admit single-payer (i.e., government) is starting to look preferable. Which may be the idea. Screw Obamacare up so badly that everybody recognizes we need a patch on the patch.
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It would have been more effective if we had left the public option in the original bill.
 
The healthcare.gov seems to be working really well today!:)

ETA: Wow, spoke way to soon. Unable to verify my identity. Boo.
 
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elbe said:
You don't think that sort of thing can break with popular video games too? Websites break from too much traffic too. I remember an online game that had a webpage that reports server status; the servers were all full but it was hard to tell because the page was reporting that it was full.
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I've never had a gaming site go down for a full week, as this is currently. And again, it's not even the main site itself - I can't even create an account. I have no idea what awaits if I ever get past that barrier.
 
DavidJames said:
Can you explain the logical and physical data flow of this specific registration process and what leads you to decide the registration should be faster?

Please be specific, site your sources along with and available data.

Please note, your gut doesn't qualify as any of those.
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I already posted the specific issues I was having. My source is myself.

Have you tried creating an account? Give it a whirl...
 
WildCat said:
I've never had a gaming site go down for a full week, as this is currently. And again, it's not even the main site itself - I can't even create an account. I have no idea what awaits if I ever get past that barrier.
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Gaming sites have a lot more resources and money for development and development doesn't go to the low bidder. And they don't have cast in stone deadlines where they have to go live no matter what.

I'm totally unsurprised at this.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...he-people-released-back-to-the-people/277295/

It's fast, built in static HTML, completely scalable and secure," said Bryan Sivak, chief technology officer of HHS, in an interview. "It's basically setting up a web server. That's the beauty of it." What makes such an ambitious experiment in social coding more unusual is that the larger political and health-care policy context that it's being been built within is more fraught with tension and scrutiny than any other arena in the federal government.
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"ambitious experiment"? That would scare the hell out of me if I was in charge of this site. I have no idea who Bryan Sivak is, but he sounds like one of many 'chief technology officers" I've met that never actuall built anything themselves.

This whole article reeks of "let's make it cool" instead of "let's make it work". And no that's not a government thing, it's endemic in website and software development.
 
ravdin said:
I've been on the wrong end of glitches related to website launches too, and I know it's no fun. However, as a fellow techie I think you know already that it's not just about the traffic. For example, did you know that hitting "apply" causes an update on 92 separate files, 56 of which are Javascript files? Small wonder then that heavy traffic would cause problems, but why on earth would it be necessary to shuttle back and forth that much data for a straightforward form submit?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013...are-technology-analysis-idUSBRE99407T20131005
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Here's another goofy glitch: like many registration forms, you have to type in your email address twice to ensure they match, and reduce bad email addresses. But this form assumes the first one you type is always the correct one, so if there's a typo in the first one and you type it correctly in the second one there's no way to correct it, the software will insist they don't match even when they do after you've corrected the first box. The only way to fix it is to refresh the page and start over.
 
Brainster said:
At this point, I have to admit single-payer (i.e., government) is starting to look preferable.
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Of course it's preferable. Obamacare is trying to make the best out of a bad system. The only reason there wasn't a complete overhaul, was to placate free market extremists like you.
 
Peephole said:
Of course it's preferable. Obamacare is trying to make the best out of a bad system. The only reason there wasn't a complete overhaul, was to placate free market extremists like you.
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Back around the time of the SCOTUS ruling on ACA, someone here described it as being like putting new siding on a double-wide when what we need is a brand new house.

I've been using the analogy ever since.
 
Peephole said:
Of course it's preferable. Obamacare is trying to make the best out of a bad system. The only reason there wasn't a complete overhaul, was to placate free market extremists like you.
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Exactly, but now they want to destroy even that, and leave everyone with nothing at all.
 
Polaris said:
Back around the time of the SCOTUS ruling on ACA, someone here described it as being like putting new siding on a double-wide when what we need is a brand new house.

I've been using the analogy ever since.
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And the Tea Partiers are the tornado heading for the trailer park.
 
Biscuit said:
The healthcare.gov seems to be working really well today!:)
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I just checked and I sailed right through. This is the best it's ever been; those upgrades must be working :)

ETA: Wow, spoke way to soon. Unable to verify my identity. Boo.
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Sorry. Keep at it.

ETA: I just created an account at healthcare.gov. From beginning to end, it took me all of 5 minutes, including the amount of time to get the email from them and verify the account. And I just logged in with my new account; no problem at all.

Dare I say that things are actually getting better? Gasp!
 
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MattusMaximus said:
I just checked and I sailed right through. This is the best it's ever been; those upgrades must be working :)



Sorry. Keep at it.

ETA: I just created an account at healthcare.gov. From beginning to end, it took me all of 5 minutes, including the amount of time to get the email from them and verify the account. And I just logged in with my new account; no problem at all.

Dare I say that things are actually getting better? Gasp!
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But... Benghazi! :(
 
MattusMaximus said:
I just checked and I sailed right through. This is the best it's ever been; those upgrades must be working :)



Sorry. Keep at it.

ETA: I just created an account at healthcare.gov. From beginning to end, it took me all of 5 minutes, including the amount of time to get the email from them and verify the account. And I just logged in with my new account; no problem at all.

Dare I say that things are actually getting better? Gasp!
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Obvious government shill is obvious. :D
 
MattusMaximus said:
I just checked and I sailed right through. This is the best it's ever been; those upgrades must be working :)



Sorry. Keep at it.

ETA: I just created an account at healthcare.gov. From beginning to end, it took me all of 5 minutes, including the amount of time to get the email from them and verify the account. And I just logged in with my new account; no problem at all.

Dare I say that things are actually getting better? Gasp!
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It was way better but were you able to verify your identity? It seems to be getting stuck there.
 
Biscuit said:
It was way better but were you able to verify your identity? It seems to be getting stuck there.
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Yup, no problem. Like I said, I verified via the email I was sent, and then I logged into my account. Front to back, it took me all of 5 minutes; the thing that took most of that time was deciding which security questions to choose.

ETA: Like I said, keep at it.
 
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MattusMaximus said:
I just checked and I sailed right through. This is the best it's ever been; those upgrades must be working :)



Sorry. Keep at it.

ETA: I just created an account at healthcare.gov. From beginning to end, it took me all of 5 minutes, including the amount of time to get the email from them and verify the account. And I just logged in with my new account; no problem at all.

Dare I say that things are actually getting better? Gasp!
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I just visited the California one, and it was very easy to navigate. I checked Texas, (because I served time there), and Illinois (because someone from Illinois keeps bitching about it), it looks like both are using the federal version. My conclusion is, if you live in a crappy state that refused to set up an exchange, you really should take it up with the idiots running your state, or like me, move out of the crappy state (the weather sucks there anyway).

Daredelvis
 
daredelvis said:
I just visited the California one, and it was very easy to navigate. I checked Texas, (because I served time there), and Illinois (because someone from Illinois keeps bitching about it), it looks like both are using the federal version. My conclusion is, if you live in a crappy state that refused to set up an exchange, you really should take it up with the idiots running your state, or like me, move out of the crappy state (the weather sucks there anyway).

Daredelvis
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I'm also in Illinois, and I just used the federal site. As I said above, I basically breezed through it.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Yup, no problem. Like I said, I verified via the email I was sent, and then I logged into my account. Front to back, it took me all of 5 minutes; the thing that took most of that time was deciding which security questions to choose.

ETA: Like I said, keep at it.
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I will!

Although I am starting to think I might not be who I claim I am.
 
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