Heard any good rape jokes lately?

"I was raped by a doctor. It is so bittersweet for a Jewish girl..."

-- Sarah Silverman

She makes a lot of outrageous jokes
 
sarge said:
"how does one know when it is appropriate to joke about otherwise terrible things" was the question. Clues abound - and most of us still get it wrong on occasion. The best answer I can provide is to know your audience and your environment.

I've heard jokes that were raunchy/insensitive/disgusting/etc, and found them quite funny. I've heard relatively tame jokes, and sensed that others hearing the same joke were offended. For example, the day after the Shuttle Challenger disaster, I first heard the N(eed) A(nother) S(even) A(stronauts) joke, and I laughed. In a different setting, I might have found the exact same joke offensive.

For my money, one is not entitled to offense if they attend an adult comedy show.
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Good post, thanks.
 
sarge said:
That one may form such an opinion does not mean one is entitled to it. I would strip it from their skulls (literally) if I could.
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I'd say I'm glad you're not running for public office but I don't suppose tyrants-in-waiting are always bound by the electoral process. Instead, I'll say I'm glad that your odds of gaining large amounts of power are small...barring some sort of Road Warrior dystopia.
 
KingMerv00 said:
One is always "entitled" to their subjective opinion.
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Most certainly people are entitled to their opinion, however, it doesn't mean it is a valid opinion.

It also doesn't mean that they can interrupt the performance because they have a different subjective opinion.
 
Tatyana said:
Most certainly people are entitled to their opinion, however, it doesn't mean it is a valid opinion.

It also doesn't mean that they can interrupt the performance because they have a different subjective opinion.
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I completely agree. Sarge, however, went a step farther and said that merely having the opinion is so repulsive he would (forgive the unintended pun) mindrape it out of existence.

There is a world of difference between telling someone their opinion is wrong and thinking it is reasonable to forcefully quell disagreement.
 
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I'm pretty old-school when it comes to comedy. I really don't believe anything is off limits. If you don't like it, don't listen/watch. This woman could have left instead of interrupting his show if she didn't like it.

PC sucks. Words only hurt if you let them. The whole "stick and stone" analogy. I'll never understand people getting all up in arms about words.
 
RandFan said:
So, what do you think?
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Just the other day, I saw an old Sam Kinnison routine on what to do with homeless people: execute them. That's the punchline. Its a joke because its over-the-top, taboo, and offensive.

Last time I saw a Sarah Silverman, she spent a good amount of time making cracks about her vagina and abortion. That's why its a joke: its over-the-top, taboo, and offensive.

One of my favorite David Cross bits describes Catholic priests molesting young boys in lavish, absurd detail. Over-the-top, taboo, and offensive.

See just about everything ever written by Maddox, many sketches by the Whitest Kids U' Know, any episode of Drawn Together for jokes about child abuse, suicide, self-mutilation, the Holocaust, potty humor. Over-the-top, taboo, and offensive.

Long story short, I don't think there's a topic so off-limits you couldn't tell a joke about it, so I'm not exactly surprised that Tosh includes rape jokes in his routine. Whether he pulls it off well depends on the audience.
 
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Hell, my mother used to tell me rape jokes (usually involving nuns). There's nothing that isn't funny in the right situation. I don't know whether or not Tosh was funny, but he certainly made a bad mistake with his putdown of the heckler.
 
... I didnt appreciate Daniel Tosh (or anyone!) telling me I should find them funny. So I yelled out, “Actually, rape jokes are never funny!”

I did it because, even though being “disruptive” is against my nature, I felt that sitting there and saying nothing, or leaving quietly, would have been against my values as a person and as a woman. I don’t sit there while someone tells me how I should feel about omething as profound and damaging as rape.

So Tosh can't, but she can?
 
WildCat said:
So Tosh can't, but she can?
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Nope. If you think that's true, you're not paying attention to what happened.

Tosh made a joke. He thought it was funny and edgy; someone in the audience didn't. She said so. So far, this is nothing unusual. It is all part of a normal, everyday routine that any stand-up comic is familiar with.

Hecklers and audience comments are a standard part of stand-up comedy. If you want to see someone who knows how to deal with hecklers in the audience, watch George Carlin's videos some time. The man was a master at it.

Tosh, on the other hand, not so much.

He dealt with her by suggesting that she be gang-raped on the spot. That's bad comedy, and it's stupid, and more to the point, the audience isn't likely to find it funny.

Heckling happens. He thinks of himself as a comic who makes edgy jokes. He should and probably is accustomed to being heckled for it. That's just an ordinary day in the life of a stand-up comic.

But what he's getting blasted for isn't the joke; it's the way he handled her reaction to it. His response showed an appalling, almost unbelievable lack of the basic craft of stand-up comedy. A stand-up comic who can't deal with the audience in a way that's funny but also not insulting simply has a poor grasp of his chosen profession. If he is going to respond in such a ham-fisted and clearly inappropriate way, with such an appalling lack of one of the basic skills that any stand-up comedian should have mastered...well, he deserves to take a hit for it. You don't succeed as a comedian by saying that you wish your audience would be assaulted.
 
franklinveaux said:
Nope. If you think that's true, you're not paying attention to what happened.

Tosh made a joke. He thought it was funny and edgy; someone in the audience didn't. She said so. So far, this is nothing unusual. It is all part of a normal, everyday routine that any stand-up comic is familiar with.

Hecklers and audience comments are a standard part of stand-up comedy. If you want to see someone who knows how to deal with hecklers in the audience, watch George Carlin's videos some time. The man was a master at it.

Tosh, on the other hand, not so much.

He dealt with her by suggesting that she be gang-raped on the spot. That's bad comedy, and it's stupid, and more to the point, the audience isn't likely to find it funny.

Heckling happens. He thinks of himself as a comic who makes edgy jokes. He should and probably is accustomed to being heckled for it. That's just an ordinary day in the life of a stand-up comic.

But what he's getting blasted for isn't the joke; it's the way he handled her reaction to it. His response showed an appalling, almost unbelievable lack of the basic craft of stand-up comedy. A stand-up comic who can't deal with the audience in a way that's funny but also not insulting simply has a poor grasp of his chosen profession. If he is going to respond in such a ham-fisted and clearly inappropriate way, with such an appalling lack of one of the basic skills that any stand-up comedian should have mastered...well, he deserves to take a hit for it. You don't succeed as a comedian by saying that you wish your audience would be assaulted.
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You misunderstand my point. She doesn't want Tosh to dictate to her what was funny and what wasn't, but she felt free to dictate her personal beliefs of what is funny and what isn't to him.

And Tosh wasn't dictating anything to her, she was free to laugh or free not to laugh. She, however, demanded that no one else should have that choice, thst she gets to decide what can and can't be joked about.
 
KingMerv00 said:
I'd say I'm glad you're not running for public office but I don't suppose tyrants-in-waiting are always bound by the electoral process. Instead, I'll say I'm glad that your odds of gaining large amounts of power are small...barring some sort of Road Warrior dystopia.
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I didn't say she was not entitled to an opinion, I said she is not entitled to offense. Opinion and offense are not synonymous. She acted like an asshat. Screw her (against her will would be best).*++








*see what I did there - I made a rape joke.
++ I do not actually advocate raping her - that's why it's a joke.
 
Dessi said:
Long story short, I don't think there's a topic so off-limits you couldn't tell a joke about it, so I'm not exactly surprised that Tosh includes rape jokes in his routine.
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Indeed.


Whether he pulls it off well depends on the audience.
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And his delivery. Get either the delivery or the audience wrong, and someone is offended, or worse - the joke falls flat.
 
Twelve Norwegians are about to rape a German girl.

She screams, "Nein! Nein!"

So three of the Norwegians leave.



How's that?

ETA: I used Norwegians instead of Poles because that's how I first heard it. In Wisconsin, all the Polack jokes are recycled as Norwegian jokes.
 
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