Hardfire: Szamboti / Chandler / Mackey

R.Mackey said:
My bold added. There are very, very few people such as you describe. The Truth Movement has had eight years to reach them, and if they haven't by now, they never will.
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I am sorry I have to say I disagree here RM. The TM will be like any other CT and will prosper where there is opportunity to prosper. Every generation new followers of CT's are created and more so now than ever since the internet. the internet like a circulatory system, while providing nourishment to the body, has also served as an express system for disease. Conspiracy theories as a whole have benefited in that children are exposed to nonsensical ideas and are being convinced that their methods and reasoning are legitimate. People who were born in the last couple decades are readily buying the JFK and moon landing crap. Also, we can see the ancient jewish conspiracy is very prevalent. 9/11 like all CT's will continue to spread and will be a spring board for future declines in rational thought. My $.02
 
newton3376 said:
I know.....what in the name of Zeus is the holdup here? :confused:
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Undersigned. I can't wait. this kind of stuff is like the playoffs of skepticism.

How Bill Smith can think Gage did anything of consequence during his debate with Gravy is about as rational as using chilies as a sexual aid. Lemme guess...he thinks his nanothermite nonsense was a home run? Well unfortunately it was just coming out that it was sham. Yet Gravy did field it and laid the foundation for what everyone was speculating and later turned out to fact.

Regardless, how anyone can think Gage was effective after his Kinkos demo, is beyond me. If God wanted to convince me of the afterlife and become his ever loving servant that would have been the time. Just materialize Mr. Wizard, bitch slap Richie & have him do a classic 80's Reading Is Fundamental tv spot. Oh god if you exist and want believers this would be the way.
 
YEYE

3 part show??

Whens the next one comin!!!?!???! I need my fix!
 
grandmastershek said:
I am sorry I have to say I disagree here RM. The TM will be like any other CT and will prosper where there is opportunity to prosper. Every generation new followers of CT's are created and more so now than ever since the internet. the internet like a circulatory system, while providing nourishment to the body, has also served as an express system for disease. Conspiracy theories as a whole have benefited in that children are exposed to nonsensical ideas and are being convinced that their methods and reasoning are legitimate. People who were born in the last couple decades are readily buying the JFK and moon landing crap. Also, we can see the ancient jewish conspiracy is very prevalent. 9/11 like all CT's will continue to spread and will be a spring board for future declines in rational thought. My $.02
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I think RM is saying something different. Like him, I doubt 911 Truth will ever go away completely. There will always be a Black Krishna in the mental wards or wandering the streets homeless babbling about how THEY used thermite to destroy the WTC. I think what he means is that 911 Truth will exist only in so far as it's able to incorporate itself into the world of CT thinking.

I now know probably hundreds of people who profess to believe in this 911 crap. Almost all of them are under 25. I don't know about you, but I believed some of the strangest things when I was in high school. From a rational point of view, I doubt 911 Truth is inferior.

But 911 Truth can hardly get more than a couple of dozen people out to a rally. This year's memorial demonstration in NY had less than 150 and they came from all over the country. No one os buying their movie. If you look at recently posted videos on Youtube, no one is watching them. Gage is going overseas to find an audience. How many more years can they keep this up?
 
That was fast. Even I didn't know about it that quickly. However, yes, the above is the first of three shows. I'll post the other two when available, if I'm not beaten to it.
 
R.Mackey said:
That was fast. Even I didn't know about it that quickly. However, yes, the above is the first of three shows. I'll post the other two when available, if I'm not beaten to it.
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You know when that might be? Are we talking days, weeks or years? ;) Good first show!
 
scott.in.taiwan said:
I think RM is saying something different. Like him, I doubt 911 Truth will ever go away completely. There will always be a Black Krishna in the mental wards or wandering the streets homeless babbling about how THEY used thermite to destroy the WTC. I think what he means is that 911 Truth will exist only in so far as it's able to incorporate itself into the world of CT thinking.

I now know probably hundreds of people who profess to believe in this 911 crap. Almost all of them are under 25. I don't know about you, but I believed some of the strangest things when I was in high school. From a rational point of view, I doubt 911 Truth is inferior.

But 911 Truth can hardly get more than a couple of dozen people out to a rally. This year's memorial demonstration in NY had less than 150 and they came from all over the country. No one os buying their movie. If you look at recently posted videos on Youtube, no one is watching them. Gage is going overseas to find an audience. How many more years can they keep this up?
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Fair enough. And upon giving it further thought, yes I too did believe some nonsensical stuff when I was a kid. More so because it sounded cool as opposed to being factual and/or rational. My students always seem to get disappointed when I explain how some of the things they claim are fact in class don't always stack up. Kind of reminds me of when a kid finds out Santa isn't real (yes it's true); "You mean Planet X isn't real!?". Even worse though is that I had a science teacher in my building telling them Planet X was real & another history teacher who believed in 9/11 truth. So I spent considerable time cleaning up after them when time allowed.
 
Good job Ryan. You explained it cleanly in such a way that layman at least had a decent grasp of what you were contending. I didn't like that Ron took up the first few minutes. But I can't way to see more....SOON!
 
I'm watching it now. I love how cheesy and bizarre the theme song is, I always start cracking up when I hear it.
 
Interestingly enough my name pops up in the show at around 14.25 minutes!
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Looking forward to watching it!!!

(OT) I have just produced 2 videos addressing David Chandler's 'South Tower Smoking Guns' video. Part 1 is on my channel, Part 2 is still rendering.

These will probably be my last videos, hope you enjoy them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzTGMQcXP1Q

Thanks again to Ryan for all the great work you've done.
 
This must be Christmas! A video of Mackey owning Tony & AE smacks around Chandler some more...next you're going to tell me being bald instantly gets you laid.

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