Malachi151 said:
Here is a good article on the matter:
http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?s=&postid=224025#post224025
New research using from actual records.
This research puts the total numbers much, much lower, around 2 million.
Not that that is acceptable, but its still a much different number. The article is very detailed, I sugest you read it if you are actually curious about this.
Are you kidding me with this? Have you read Solzhenytzyn?
You are referring me to the site of the paper that was a mouthpiece of a corrupt government and to an internet post of a guy who has "For Motherland, For Stalin" under his nick?
I am not an expert, but I know BS when I see it, and that post was BS.
I read some of his past posts. Some quotes from him:
-Zionists collaborated with the Nazis in the destruction of their own people for political reasons
-Russian Communist Party was over-represented, perhaps, grossly so, with "Jews"
-Why do you think Jews are periodically persecuted throughout recorded history? Is it because of their natural inclination towards financial wizadry ie usury
-Along with Jews and Poles such as Dzerzhinsky and Menzhinsky, Latvians played a role in forming that fearsome instrument of Red terror, the Cheka
-Jews practise eugenics, practically invented it.
After looking at that forum for about twenty minutes, I saw about a dozen of virulently anti-Semitic threads.
Read the books, they are meticulously researched.
Here are my qualifications
1. I grew up in USSR, I speak the language and know the history from the inside.
2. I read Archipelag Gulag, as well as other anti Soviet literature
3. My grandparents spent 5 years each in work camps in Siberia. They got Beria amnesty, you see, they were originally sentenced for 10. Their crime was believing communist propaganda and going to Russia from Romania- they were communists. They crossed the border and went to the local police station. They were tortured for a few months and then sent to camps. Of the group they crossed with, they are the only ones who survived.
So I know something about it- from a personal level as well as overall level.
Don't link to a post in a random board by someone with an obvious agenda. Read the book, if you are interested in discussing the subject. People are arguing about the numbers because so many undocumented people were killed in WWII, in camps, through starvation. Estimates range from low 2 million to as high as 20 million. Truth probably is found in between, but you shall not find it on that internet board.
Here is at least one article that shows sources.
http://web.qx.net/jon/stalin.html
It calculates 14.5 million dead 1930-37, 3 million during Great Terror, and many more
