Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

How about it aleCcowaN ? I've already asked nicely TWICE. Have you got a source for that claim "analysed and rejected" ?
 
*Wanders back into this thread*
*looks around*
*shakes head at the implausibility and ignorance of the basic idea*
*is astounded at the patience of especially aleCcowaN and Reality Check*
*wanders out*
 
Haig said:
How about it aleCcowaN ? I've already asked nicely TWICE. Have you got a source for that claim "analysed and rejected" ?
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I'm not going to do your homework. This is not a chat room. You have it hardcopied.

If you like to view additional evidence, take a look to this. It's clearly spell out for you in some place

Sun struck.
 
jimbob said:
No, because you are peddling laughable nonsense.
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The Sun - Earth connection triggering earthquakes isn't such a stretch from this

For some storms, a day or two after the maximum pressure, the energetic particles build up deep inside the magnetosphere. The electrons can reach energies of a Million electron-volts or more (equivalent to a temperature of ten billion degrees!). These very energetic electrons can do great damage to spacecraft systems, causing memory shifts, spacecraft charging events, and other damage. Although it’s difficult to prove a direct connection, many communication spacecraft failures occur when the energetic electron flux is very high – that’s why many scientists call these "killer electrons" and are attempting to determine why they build up to such incredible energies.
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The Sun-Earth Connection


Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun
Meanwhile, high above your head, a new portal is opening, connecting your planet to the sun.
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Haig said:
The Sun - Earth connection triggering earthquakes isn't such a stretch from this


The Sun-Earth Connection


Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun
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You are again spamming with crap not related to earthquakes, nor tectonics, nor anything on the thread's topic.

You're simply adding the BS phrase «triggering earthquakes isn't such a stretch from» before just to feign they are related.

Haig-who-is-not-Ben, you're so transparent! :pigsfly

This thread exists specifically to avoid you usual all-things-solar, flying like a hummingbird from flower to flower as soon as every instance of bluff in your crappy link dropping is called.
 
To save me searching through 20 odd pages of link spam and boobtube vids, has there ever been a mention of a mechanism for these Sun caused earthquakes? You know, solar flare, higher electron and ion count in the solar wind, impacts the Earth's atmosphere............then what?
What is causing one plate to slide beneath another? Or alongside another, in the case of a transform fault? What are these ions/ electrons doing that affects enormous tectonic plates, but has no measurable effects elsewhere?
Sounds like a hard sell to any reputable journal. Maybe that's why it only exists on boobtube and the interweb.
 
Haig said:
jimbob said:
No, because you are peddling laughable nonsense.
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The Sun - Earth connection triggering earthquakes isn't such a stretch from this

For some storms, a day or two after the maximum pressure, the energetic particles build up deep inside the magnetosphere. The electrons can reach energies of a Million electron-volts or more (equivalent to a temperature of ten billion degrees!). These very energetic electrons can do great damage to spacecraft systems, causing memory shifts, spacecraft charging events, and other damage. Although it’s difficult to prove a direct connection, many communication spacecraft failures occur when the energetic electron flux is very high – that’s why many scientists call these "killer electrons" and are attempting to determine why they build up to such incredible energies.
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The Sun-Earth Connection


Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun
Meanwhile, high above your head, a new portal is opening, connecting your planet to the sun.
Click to expand...
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1 Million electron Volts is 0.16 million-millionth of a joule (0.16 pJ) Sufficiently energetic to cause problems with integrated circuits and slightly* more energy than would be needed to raise 0.16 microgrammes 0.1 microns if it started somewhere near the surface of the Earth.

Alternatively, it could raise a single E. coli bacterium (1 picogram) about 1.6 cm.

Hardly earth-shattering forces.

*Approximating g to 10 m.s-2 as opposed to a more accurate 9.81 m.s-2


jonesdave116 said:
To save me searching through 20 odd pages of link spam and boobtube vids, has there ever been a mention of a mechanism for these Sun caused earthquakes? You know, solar flare, higher electron and ion count in the solar wind, impacts the Earth's atmosphere............then what?
What is causing one plate to slide beneath another? Or alongside another, in the case of a transform fault? What are these ions/ electrons doing that affects enormous tectonic plates, but has no measurable effects elsewhere?
Sounds like a hard sell to any reputable journal. Maybe that's why it only exists on boobtube and the interweb.
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By Jove! I think you might be onto something here. Not that I have much hope for your approach - I'm just at the stage of pointing and laughing, now.
 
jimbob said:
By Jove! I think you might be onto something here. Not that I have much hope for your approach - I'm just at the stage of pointing and laughing, now.
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To paraphrase Tim Thompson in one of his comments about Don Scott's nonsense: "Nice prose, crap science."
Think that pretty much sums it up.
 
Haig: That these are your delusions about valid science is not a stretch st all

Haig said:
The Sun - Earth connection triggering earthquakes isn't such a stretch from this
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23 November 2015 Haig: That these are your delusions about valid science is not a stretch at all.
This is the idiocy that because the Sun affects the Earth it must cause whatever your obsession with the deluded Ben Davidson needs. You are almost lying about the contents of these web pages because they are not about any cause of earthquakes, Haig :jaw-dropp.

The Sun-Earth Connection
The most dramatic way the Earth is influenced by the Sun is by its gravity, which keeps the Earth in its one-year orbit. The visible light output from the Sun is critical to warming the Earth and providing the energy needs of plants and animals. But the Sun emits other, less benign sources of radiation — energetic photons (ultraviolet, X-ray, and gamma ray) and energetic particles from solar flares. The Earth and its abundant life is sheltered from the outbursts of the Sun by its protective cocoon, the Magnetosphere. The magnetosphere is the sphere of influence of the Earth’s magnetic field, and is not sphere shaped at all… in fact, the magnetosphere’s shape is more like a comet. The most beautiful (and most easily observable) effect of the magnetosphere is the aurora borealis, or northern lights. Like a real comet, changes in the Sun’s output can make the tail flap and large slabs peel off the sides, but the magnetic field saves us on the Earth’s surface from the worst effects of space weather. Without the protective shells of the magnetosphere and the atmosphere, the Earth would be blasted by cosmic rays, very energetic particles that come both from the Sun and from the galaxy. Cosmic rays from a solar outburst can kill an unprotected person in space in just a few hours. These outbursts are more common at times of Solar Maximum, when the Sun’s surface is most active. Solar maxima occur every 11 years, with the next solar maximum expected in 2000. The Earth’s magnetic field, which excludes most of these energetic particles, can also trap, store, and energize charged particles, causing at times damage to communication spacecraft systems. The electric currents that flow in the Earth’s vicinity from its interaction with the solar wind drive the shimmering aurora; but in the process can create overloads on electric power distribution grids, creating massive power blackouts. Turbulence in the Earth’s ionosphere can cause disruption of radio transmission, and errors in satellite navigation systems. By understanding the natural processes and variability of this system, we can be prepared for the disasters that at times can occur and understand the conditions necessary for life to exist on any planetary system. This field of study is called "Sun-Earth Connections", and includes most of the forms of energy and particle interactions above the troposphere. This field of study is part of NASA’s Office of Space Science, and called "Sun-Earth Connections". It includes most of the forms of energy flow and particle interactions above the troposphere. By convention it does not include the study of weather and climate, which are part of NASA’s Office of Earth Science. The National Science Foundation supports Sun-Earth Connections research in its Division of Atmospheric Science. In addition, the Air Force, recognizing the danger to humans and systems in space, supports a great deal of research in this topic area, as does the Department of Energy (at LANL) and the Department of Commerce (at NOAA).
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Magnetic Portals Connect Earth to the Sun
Oct. 30, 2008: During the time it takes you to read this article, something will happen high overhead that until recently many scientists didn't believe in. A magnetic portal will open, linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away. Tons of high-energy particles may flow through the opening before it closes again, around the time you reach the end of the page.

"It's called a flux transfer event or 'FTE,'" says space physicist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible."

Indeed, today Sibeck is telling an international assembly of space physicists at the 2008 Plasma Workshop in Huntsville, Alabama, that FTEs are not just common, but possibly twice as common as anyone had ever imagined.
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36 items of ignorance and delusions from Haig just in this thread!

  1. 18 November 2015 Haig: Lies about the contents of two Ben Davidson crank videos.
  2. 18 November 2015 Haig: It is an obvious lie that Ben Davidson has being following the scientific method as your link shows.
  3. 19 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davidson fantasizes about a CME and a coronal hole flux impact or is plagiarizing real space weather forecasts.
  4. 19 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davidson tweets his ignorant delusions about outgoing longwave radiation (OLR).
  5. 20 November 2015 Haig: Ben Davidson tweets his ignorant delusions about outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) again!
  6. 21 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  7. 21 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
  8. 23 November 2015 Haig: That these are your delusions about valid science is not a stretch at all.
  9. Heads up guys: 23 November 2015 Haig: The repeated delusion of science by YouTube videos from the crank Ben Davidson!
 
Haig said:
The Sun - Earth connection triggering large earthquakes again :eek:

M7.6 Earthquakes, Earthspot Volcano | S0 News Nov.25.2015


Mmm start of a 5 day large earthquake watch :thumbsup:
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I'm sure as hell not watching boobtube pseudoscience clips, so what is this based on? Just had a look at the Ace solar wind data for the last 3 days, and nothing much is happening. Does this "hypothesis" rely on the fact that there is a solar wind at all? QED, solar wind = earthquakes? In which case we should expect them every day. Which, indeed, is what we see. The only time we shouldn't expect earthquakes are on days when there is no solar wind?
 
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Haig said:
Mmm start of a 5 day large earthquake watch :thumbsup:
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Tell you what, Haig; I'll also bet that there is a very good chance of a mag 6.0 or higher within the next 5 days, too!
However, my guess is based purely on maths. That is, the statistical chances of it happening. As below;

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From: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0197837.html

So, > 6.0 = 152 per annum on average since 1990. Equals 1 every 2.4 days. So 1 of those within 5 days? Not a bad bet.
 
To add further; chances of an EQ of 7.0 or greater in the next 5 days? Well, according to the table I posted above there are, on average, 18 per annum of that magnitude. Equals ~ 1 every 20 days. Last one was at Dadali, Solomon Islands on 18/11. 7 days ago. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/search/
Add 5 to that gives 12 since the last one. 12/20 = 60% chance of another occurring in that 12 day timespan, purely based on averages.
If you took these predictions to a geological bookmaker (anyone know of one?), then he would be giving you very short odds.
I think we can all see what game is being played here. The fact that the guy is trying to make money out of things that cause misery to thousands of people every year tells you all you need to know. If he was any good he'd be telling us which areas to evacuate.
 
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