Grizzly Man

Of course had the movie been shot before his death or even if somehow he was forced to abandon wilderness and pursue a more mundane job, then we'd most probably have another "Gorillas In The Mist". There have been many people who have done stupid things living very close to gorillas, chimpanzees, wolves, etc. Up to a point it's just the outcome that determines the reputation.
 
Rachel1031 said:
Has anyone seen "Incident at Loch Ness"? It is a Werner Herzog "mockumentory". Pretty funny:)
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being a fan of mr. herzog i've seen almost all of his films, and this one was pretty funny, except i knew the "real deal" before the film started, so the whole "is it real or not" aspect of the film was lost on me

plus the commentary is hilarious with werner walking out "pissed"
 
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I've been hoping someone would post about this. I haven't had time to read all the posts here yet, but the movie definitely got me thinking about a lot of stuff. I'll be back when I've got a bit more time to see what you guys thought.
 
Some apparently attention-starved blockhead has posted what is claimed to be the audio recording of the attack. As much as I hate to indulge this sort of foolishness, I'm going to link it here because it's just too hilarious to miss:

http://media.putfile.com/Tim-Treadwell-bear-attack

You can hear the person blowing across the mic to make the “wind” effect. You can even hear them inhaling at regular intervals before the next “gust”. According to the report by Park officials at the scene, Treadwell’s camera was found inside the tent… so how are we hearing strong “wind”, yet we don’t hear the sounds of the tent flapping?

The bear growling sounds were probably taken from old reruns of Gentle Ben or Grizzly Adams. They're right on cue, and they don't fit the "action" at all.

The screaming voices are priceless… a performance that would be laughed off the stage of a grade school play, and it’s painfully obvious that the voices were recorded indoors.

I’ll say this though. This performance is every bit as convincing as Tim Treadwell’s portrayal of a competent wildlife expert.
 
Rachel1031 said:
Has anyone seen "Incident at Loch Ness"? It is a Werner Herzog "mockumentory". Pretty funny:)
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Watched it the other day - yes, the man is a genius. I wonder if Zack Penn was playing along with the joke or if he was the butt unknowingly (I have my doubts the guy responsible for Inspector Gadget could be that astute).

How odd that the "sonar operator" comes off as the most down-to-earth character in the film?

Worth it for the cryptozoologist alone - "where is all the non-evidence?!" Get the DVD and watch the interviews.
 
For a VERY different take on the man-grizzly interface, I highly recommend picking up "Project Grizzly." http://www.projectgrizzly.net/
The website makes it look like a joke. It's not. This guy is as intense as they come, and seeing him test the various suit designs is hilarious.
 
Gravy said:
For a VERY different take on the man-grizzly interface, I highly recommend picking up "Project Grizzly." http://www.projectgrizzly.net/
The website makes it look like a joke. It's not. This guy is as intense as they come, and seeing him test the various suit designs is hilarious.
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That the same guy that they shoot arrows at and run into with a car? I want one of those suits, man!
 
Grizzly Man just pissed me off. :mad:

From the bear that ate Treadwell having to be killed, completely his fault BTW, to the interviews with his pretentious friends, this movie was 2 hours of straight making me angry.

Treadwell did nothing but put those bears in danger from the moment he showed up. If only his remains had never been found.
 
Not just the bear that ate him, but another bear nearby. The girlfriend would have survived if she hadn't been making the predator call.
 
Actually Troy Hurtubise is an inventor, not any loonier than many others. Have you seen "American Inventor"? Apparently his bear suit does do what he claims, but frankly, I can't see any biologist using it. It doesn't really blend in with the environment and so would affect the behaviour of the bears. Aside from that can you imagine yourself traipsing around the wilderness in how many pounds of body armour?
Another invention of his is an armour system for light vehicles. Works pretty well. Unfortunately it also covers all the windows of the vehicle.
 
Geez-o-Pete's! IMDB message boards have Grizzly Man CTs! People who think its all an elaborate hoax!

Forsooth! I have been struck dumb!
 
Haven't read all the posts yet -- wanted to get my ideas down fresh.

I guess this movie definitively answers the age-old question, "Does a bear (squat) in the woods?"

Apparently, not all the time.

Just saw this a couple nights ago. As I mentioned in another thread -- this was a guy who supposedly knew so much about bears who did some incredibly stupid things.

Yes, "Grizzly Man". I thought it was going to be about some rough and tough Grizzly Adams-type going it alone out in the woods. Two seconds after I heard Treadwell speak, I said "Gay." (not just an ad hominem -- I have a point) He spent a lot of time griping about his problems with women, even saying he loved them. I was totally surprised about 30 minutes into it to find out he actually had female partners. I'm just wondering if part of his psychosis was in not accepting, you know. I mean -- all I could see when watching this guy was Carson of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy".

"I love you, bears!" "I love you, little foxes!" "I love you, bumblebee!!" "Oh, you're not dead..."

A couple things turned my sympathy from him. One was the fact that he pretended to be alone in his videos (although he probably was, in some of them). But pretending to be this great solo crusader, when actually having someone else with him, kind of diminished that effect.

I think the thing that made me crazy was when one of the foxes was killed. "Oh, he was killed by those damn wolves!!!" Well, wolves are animals, too, and probably more endangered than the bears are. I'm sure there are many more wolf-huggers than there are of bear-huggers. (I know, appeal to popularity... but bears are much better at taking care of themselves.)

I believe the cable showing had more in that it had follow-ups to the movie, with interviews of his friends and their opinions of it. (Too damn many commercial breaks though!!!) One comment was about how many people had a morbid fascination with wanting to hear the tape. I admit some curiosity myself, but then I absolutely refused to look at anything regarding the beheading of Nicholas Berg. But that was human to human -- I refuse to let those human vermin into my head. This was just nature taking its course. Still, I try to avoid even "shark attack" shows, and the like.

Another thing that struck me. In the video that was taken a few hours before his death, he is wearing a heavy winter coat that I'd not seen in any other video. My first thought was, "He looks like a little bear!!" Well, that may have been Bear 141's thought, too.

Having recently watched the first couple seasons of "The Sopranos", I made this correllation. It's like walking into the Bada-Bing. You walk in, watch the girls, buy some drinks and maybe a little extra hoo-ha, everyting's gonna be fine. But you start f***kin' wit da boys, tappin' dem on the shoulder and whatnot, gettin' into dere bizness, and you eventually gonna p*** someone off enough to get whacked.

Still, a lot of people don't seem too sad that a "crazy" guy got killed doing something he loved, and something that was very dangerous. I'm still dreading the day that we hear about Adam Savage from Mythbusters being "BUSTED" big time. I would be very sad, but can't say that it was unexpected. ("Am I missing... a torso??!!")
 
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That guy reminded me a lot of Andy Dick.

The hardest part to watch was him describing how he wishes he was "lucky enough" to be gay, cause its so easy to get laid by men in truck stop bathrooms.
 
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Funny.............

Before he got his ass killed and eaten, Treadwell was considered to be quite a guy:

By 2001, Treadwell became notable enough to receive extensive media attention both on television and in environmental circles. Through his videos, he became known for attempting to create personal relationships with the bears he worked with.

As an activist, he actively communicated with the public, including traveling throughout the United States to educate school children about bears, and appearing on the Discovery Channel, Late Show with David Letterman, and Dateline NBC to discuss his experiences. He was also a co-author, with Jewel Palovak, of the book Among Grizzlies: Living with Wild Bears in Alaska, where he described his adventures on the Alaska Peninsula.
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But, then, we didn't know that he was pulling off his charades inside a National Park until after his death.

We weren't told of his obvious psychological problems until after his death.

We weren't shown the video illustrating his bizarre language and thoughts until after his death.

Before the bears ate him, he was a very useful tool for the eco-zealots. Afterwards, the propaganda side of the story seemed to be forgotten.

Not by me.
 
After seeing this flick, and the timeline, I thought he was trying to emulate the Croc Hunter himself. I remember him standing out in the stream "looking" for bears, much in the same way Steve Irwin would look about, as if there were crocs about, every meter.
 
I watched this and was fascinated by Treadwell in much the same way that one would stare at a car accident. He was an intelligent man who was completely unable to seperate he prejudices from what he observed. He really did appear to understand the basic thought processes of the bears, but then he projected his emotions on the animals. He loved the bears and had decided that the bears carried some affection for him too. He was basically a bear stalker who probably never really got it, even while he was being eaten.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
That disturbs me. I can understand keeping it under wraps out of respect for family/friends, but the arrogance to presume to know what is right for others to hear, or not, bothers me.
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Do you record over your video or audio recordings? The arrogance to presume what others should see or here fits into that too. Also throwing out bad pictures or deleteing them in a digital camera.
 
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