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Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed? Part II.

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ThatGuy11200 said:
I didn't realise she ran those countries. I learn something new everyday!
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Well, you know, since she focusses on anthropogenic global warming any other problem in the world is kinda her fault, innit?!

It's a variation of Bjørn Lomborg's argument: 'Attempts to fight climate change require investments in those attempts, and wouldn't that money help mankind more if it were invested elsewhere?'
Whataboutism posing as science.
 
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dann said:
Well, you know, since she focusses on anthropogenic global warming any other problem in the world is kinda her fault, innit?!

It's a variation of Bjørn Lomborg's argument: 'Attempts to fight climate change require investments in those attempts, and wouldn't that money help mankind more if it were invested elsewhere?'
Whataboutism posing as science.
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Greta is extending into an intractable world of children posing as adults. God with a wise looking beard might be replaced with a let's start again model from a savannah.
 
Samson said:
Greta is extending into an intractable world of children posing as adults. God with a wise looking beard might be replaced with a let's start again model from a savannah.
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You really do come out with some of the strangest and most idiotic statements every now and then and that's one of them.

She's not posing as an adult, she's showing maturity beyond that of most Boomers and all climate change-denying alleged grown ups.

As the late and much-lamented Sean Lock once said, in response to Brexiteers posters posting "Not Our Future" memes, "No it's not your bloody future, it's the kids' future. Let the kids vote and not people who are going to be dead when the faeces hits the fan." The same applies in spades to the climate.

Anyone with more than 1/10th of a brain should be lining up behind Greta to create an unstoppable rolling maul of outrage at the world old farts are leaving for the grandchildren.
 
I don't know if this was ever posted here, but Greta being interviewed by comedian Russell Howard, a non-psychophant supporter, is funny as hell as well as enlightening - for those whose bias enables them to enlightened, that is.

 
The Atheist said:
I don't know if this was ever posted here, but Greta being interviewed by comedian Russell Howard, a non-psychophant supporter, is funny as hell as well as enlightening - for those whose bias enables them to enlightened, that is.
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I'm pretty sure I've posted it previously, but it's a long thread and it's worth posting again. :thumbsup::p
 
Brainster said:
Unlike most of us, for various reasons, she'll look back at high school as the best 6 years of her life.
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I don't think so:
In Denmark, Estonia, the Faroe Islands, Finland, Greenland, Iceland, Latvia, Norway and Sweden, gymnasium consists of three years, usually starting at the year the students turn 16 years old after nine or ten years of primary school. In Lithuania the gymnasium usually consists of four years of schooling starting at the age of 15–16, the last year roughly corresponding to the first year of college.
Gymnasium (school): Nordic and Baltic countries (Wikipedia)
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WicMar is a Swede now living in New Zealand:

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Masking in Sweden as unusual as it gets. One of the only countries in the world recommending against masks, stating they are dangerous.
:SWEDEN: declared the pandemic over 3 times.

So her wearing a mask is big statement.
This + her climate activism.
I’d adopt Greta in a HEARTBEAT :lovestruck:
Greta Thunberg
Week 254. When you travel without flying, you often find yourself stuck on trains nonstop for several days. Today is one of those days, which means that the Friday strike this week will be from a train. #FridaysForFuture #ClimateStrike
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WicMar (Twitter, June 30, 2023)
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Thunberg is a little too old for adoption at this point.
 
Maybe time to change up her shtick then too. She should be able to appeal to the kids and manage to find a way to somehow reach those who can make changes.

Getting kids to skip school for a long weekend isn't really going to change much for the climate stuff.
 
8enotto said:
Maybe time to change up her shtick then too. She should be able to appeal to the kids and manage to find a way to somehow reach those who can make changes.

Getting kids to skip school for a long weekend isn't really going to change much for the climate stuff.
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In Sweden 'kids' in the 3rd grade of high school are old enough to vote, so they can certainly make changes - even without activism.

This attitude that "I am not in a position to make changes" is wrong. We can all make changes - if we choose to. If we fail to halt global warming it will because there are too many people in this world who expect someone else to do it.
 
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Roger Ramjets said:
In Sweden 'kids' in the 3rd grade of high school are old enough to vote, so they can certainly make changes - even without activism.

This attitude that "I am not in a position to make changes" is wrong. We can all make changes - if we choose to. If we fail to halt global warming it will because there are too many people in this world who expect someone else to do it.
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Funny you put it like that. Greta's brave campaign centered around expecting someone else to do it. Her whole thing was an impassioned appeal to world leaders, to make the immediate, drastic policy changes that only they could make.
 
Matthew Best said:
She’s left school.
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One just sort of assumes she's gone on to university, but there's certainly nothing wrong with taking a gap year or two.

But then, what on earth is she striking against? Social media? Clearly not.

Normally I think of a strike, I think of either depriving your community of your productive contributions (as in a labor strike), or depriving yourself of some material benefit (as in a hunger strike).

So. Is she withholding her labor, on this train ride? Is she depriving herself of some benefit?

I suppose it's arguable that cutting class on Friday as a form of protest could be considered a strike of one kind or the other. But what kind of strike is buying a train ticket, and then saying it's a strike if you happen to do it on a Friday?
 
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